The Dark Knight Rises trailer!! !

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It's okay. Everyone else is.



What's funny is that the stupdity in the screenplays for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight is so isolated. It's not like they're stupid scripts from start to finish, they just get ruined by a few moments of idiocy that bring it all crashing down. I would think much more highly of Batman Begins if someone created a fan edit that gets rid of Bruce's lines about refusing to kill his enemies, and I would like The Dark Knight more if the Joker's lines about being an "agent of chaos" without a plan went away.

As for Transformers, having stupid scripts for a movie about giant robots from space isn't the problem. The problem is a director who has no idea how to film a coherent action scene.

i agree with you about batman begins. but with the dark knight, you have to remember that the joker is a pathological liar. he just does not care about the truth. you would think that after two fabricated stories about his scars that you would realize that he is a LIAR. he BOLD FACE LIED to dent. he not only successfully lied to dent, but to the audience. he was not sincere about not having of a plan AT ALL. the point is, of course he IS a man with a plan. he meticulously plans everything to the smallest detail. NONE of his plans would succeed if it wasn't planned out the way they were. he insisted that he doesn't have a plan because: he is a pathological liar and he wanted to corrupt dent. he wanted to prove to society that no one is incorruptible, that everyone has their breaking point. that was the point of the movie (it wouldn't surprise me if The Killing Joke was used to inspire this film).

EDIT: also, he was "an agent of chaos" in the sense that he wanted to spread chaos throughout the whole city. he (to quote alfred) "just wanted to watch the world burn."

^ Someone involved in the film, I can't remember who, said that The Killing Joke was an inspiration. That's clear enough from the Joker's speeches about where his scars came from; him lying about his past and coming up with multiple origins came straight from that book. As did the stuff about the Joker trying to drive someone insane to prove a point (Gordon in The Killing Joke, Dent in The Dark Knight) and Gordon telling Batman that no matter what, the Joker can't win.

As for the Joker lying about being an agent of chaos, it felt to me like the filmmakers actually believed what he was saying, but I'll buy that it's an acceptable interpretation.

he lied about not being a man with a plan. i mean, based on his actions throughout the movie, he obviously is a man with a plan. that "speech" was nothing more than an attempt to corrupt dent. but, i also believe that the joker loves chaos. he planned out everything so that eventually, dent will be corrupted and the city will destroy itself through sheer chaos. in that sense, he IS an "agent of chaos". really, it is planned anarchy. also, i am a firm believer in that the joker (most versions) has anti social personality disorder (psychopathy). he is a genius, extremely manipulative, and able to lie REALLY well. so well, that it is instantly believed as the truth.

Well, despite whatever differences we may have, I think that we can all come together and agree on one thing...

That this sucks:



MONKEY WORRRRRRK!! !

also, as for batman begins "i won't kill you, etc." i agree with jory. but, aside from that, it was a REALLY good movie. i wish that ra's al ghul's death was something more like batman attempting to save him, and ra's kills himself like in Batman Arkham City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Ed5Ni_UAU

(start at 3:50)

agreed. did i help clear up anything?

Yeah. Like I said, your interpretation of the Joker works. And I agree about Batman Begins.

That preview was f*****g great!
As the Vice President might say.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

[quote="Jory"]^ Someone involved in the film, I can't remember who, said that [i]The Killing Joke[/i] was an inspiration. That's clear enough from the Joker's speeches about where his scars came from; him lying about his past and coming up with multiple origins came straight from that book. As did the stuff about the Joker trying to drive someone insane to prove a point (Gordon in [i]The Killing Joke[/i], Dent in [i]The Dark Knight[/i]) and Gordon telling Batman that no matter what, the Joker can't win.

As for the Joker lying about being an agent of chaos, it felt to me like the filmmakers actually believed what he was saying, but I'll buy that it's an acceptable interpretation.[/quote

There is nothing wrong with Bane's voice, stop nitpicking and go back to your Sherlock Holmes fetish, Jory. I am looking forward to it, unlike you and your whining posts.

Notice at :12, the "R" in "Rogues" is shaped like Robin's "R".



With the introduction of Joseph Gordon-Levitt into the film, you have an actor who might fit the role of a Robin....at least, for when Hollywood decides to capitalize on the concept of a Robin movie.

Great trailer, but someone PLEASE schedule an ADR session for Tom Hardy since me (and a number of other folks apparently) couldn't understand what the eff he was saying.

There is nothing wrong with Bane's voice, stop nitpicking. I can understand what Tom Hardy said in the trailer as Bane, your just upset because Tim Burton isn't involved, he hasn;t had an original idea since Beetlejuice. If you don't like it, go back to obsessing over the Burton films - which are all style and no substance in terms of putting atmosphere over a decent storyline.

I saw the first one and it was pretty good.

But nothing about that trailer made me want to see this thing.

Misunderstood point of trailer?

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Hmmmm...

Please ignore the first post, i tried commenting from my phone and it conspired to f**k up on me big time. Hence why i posted again.