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02 Feb 2014, 10:48 pm

Comixology is having a sale while we wait... Ends monday night.

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03 Feb 2014, 11:01 am

It'll be interesting to see how this film does - Captain America has always been a bit of a tricky one to market overseas and there's a lot of fierce competition this summer - a lot of studios are taking advantage of the Pixar- and Disney-live-action gap. I wish they'd gone with a different poster over here though... sigh.



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03 Feb 2014, 11:16 am

That second commercial was everything I was hoping for.



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03 Feb 2014, 11:18 am

Years ago Alan Moore gave his opinion of the only two movies based on comic books that he thought were any good. These were; Ghost world, and American Splendor. I probably agree with this. Although, I liked the latest superman a lot, and I can't work out why everyone hated it. They played up the superman as aspie angle, and even gave him childhood sensory issues, that were heavily reminiscent of autism.



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03 Feb 2014, 6:50 pm

I loved "Man of Steel" as well, which really surprised me because I was so skeptical of it going in. Most haters cited Superman killing Zod, but that moment was clearly staged to stress he had no other choice. It was either Zod or that helpless family, and Clark made the tough but personally horrifying call.


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03 Feb 2014, 9:16 pm

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
I loved "Man of Steel" as well, which really surprised me because I was so skeptical of it going in. Most haters cited Superman killing Zod, but that moment was clearly staged to stress he had no other choice. It was either Zod or that helpless family, and Clark made the tough but personally horrifying call.


I got Man Of Steel for my wife for Christmas. She's a huge Superman fan, and loved the movie.


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04 Feb 2014, 8:24 am

Now I have to wonder what the end credits scene is once the movie is over....



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04 Feb 2014, 6:38 pm

I like the second trailer.

I also liked MoS (and Thor 2 and Iron Man 3). I guess I'm not a "true" fan - I've never read any superhero graphic novels - so I'm don't mind if portrayals are inaccurate.

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They're starting the hype before Thor 2 even comes out? Give everyone else a chance!
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Guardians of the Galaxy (August 1)

And there's the one that matters. They've got so many films to fit in before Age Of Ultron and Ant Man, and GotG has to be last because actors from the others are required for Avengers. I guess Guardians could be delayed until Autumn.


That could happen, likely because MARVEL may not want fans feeling fatigued
during the Summer 2014 movie season, given that MARVEL has two other movies set for release during that period.

IMO, what MARVEL could do is bump back Guardians Of The Galaxy until the 2014 holiday movie season and in turn, bump back X-Men: Days Of Future Past to August 2014. However, the likelihood of MARVEL actually doing so is slim to none.
Neither X-Men nor Spiderman are Marvel films, they don't have any control over what other studios do.



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04 Feb 2014, 6:51 pm

Who cares about Captain America ??
It's the Black Widow I'm WANTING to see ! !! !


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05 Feb 2014, 12:55 am

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
I loved "Man of Steel" as well, which really surprised me because I was so skeptical of it going in. Most haters cited Superman killing Zod, but that moment was clearly staged to stress he had no other choice. It was either Zod or that helpless family, and Clark made the tough but personally horrifying call.


Often in these movies, the villains take their villainy to an illogical extreme. Zod could have avoided a lot of issues by taking his project to mars or something.

I've always had a similar problem with Magneto. If his relationship with Xavier is analogous to the dichotomy between separatism and integration, then I think Magneto trying to wipe out humanity all the time misrepresents the separatist position. Some people wanted to take a jab at Malcolm X, and here we are.



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05 Feb 2014, 6:28 am

Malcolm X advocated violence as a response to violence, which is why so many disagreed with him. Martin Luther King stressed the need for peace, and gained much more support overall.

Zod taking his plan to another world wouldn't make any sense, because he knew going in that Kal-El wouldn't agree to his full plan. Zod needed the Codex to restore Krypton's bloodline, and the only way to get it was in defeating or killing Superman on Earth.

Magneto's more like Hitler, in that his core ideology of one section being inherently superior has resulted in mass cruelty. The similarity really hits home in "First Class", when Erik tells Shaw he agrees with his ideals, but kills him anyway out of revenge for his mother's murder.


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05 Feb 2014, 9:45 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Moviefan2k4 wrote:
I loved "Man of Steel" as well, which really surprised me because I was so skeptical of it going in. Most haters cited Superman killing Zod, but that moment was clearly staged to stress he had no other choice. It was either Zod or that helpless family, and Clark made the tough but personally horrifying call.


I got Man Of Steel for my wife for Christmas. She's a huge Superman fan, and loved the movie.


The other common complaint about the movie has to do with all the damage caused to Metropolis during the Zod/Superman fight. Most people seem to think it was done simply for the sake of spectacle and that Superman wouldn't have allowed such damage to occur.

However, I think all the damage was actually a very important plot point that will be built upon in future movies. This was Superman's first super-fight. I think in future movies, we'll see Supes not only suffering guilt over killing Zod, but haunted by all the destruction he helped to cause in Metropolis. Also, all that destruction in Metropolis is going to fuel fear of Superman and lay the ground work for a Project Cadmus type of alliance between Lexcorp and the US government. I think it will also be the cause for the initial conflict between Superman and Batman in the up-coming sequel.


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05 Feb 2014, 10:08 am

I´d like to see far more a movie about Captain Murica. ^^

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05 Feb 2014, 3:16 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
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I loved "Man of Steel" as well, which really surprised me because I was so skeptical of it going in. Most haters cited Superman killing Zod, but that moment was clearly staged to stress he had no other choice. It was either Zod or that helpless family, and Clark made the tough but personally horrifying call.


I got Man Of Steel for my wife for Christmas. She's a huge Superman fan, and loved the movie.


The other common complaint about the movie has to do with all the damage caused to Metropolis during the Zod/Superman fight. Most people seem to think it was done simply for the sake of spectacle and that Superman wouldn't have allowed such damage to occur.

However, I think all the damage was actually a very important plot point that will be built upon in future movies. This was Superman's first super-fight. I think in future movies, we'll see Supes not only suffering guilt over killing Zod, but haunted by all the destruction he helped to cause in Metropolis. Also, all that destruction in Metropolis is going to fuel fear of Superman and lay the ground work for a Project Cadmus type of alliance between Lexcorp and the US government. I think it will also be the cause for the initial conflict between Superman and Batman in the up-coming sequel.


Considering that Zod is the bad guy and trying his damnedest to kill everyone, there's only so much Superman can do when fighting a villain with the same abilities as him. Notice how in one scene during the end fight Superman is punching Zod around but they're above the skyline.



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18 Feb 2014, 2:09 pm

The 2nd Trailer was even better than the first.

Did anyone spot the bit where he put his old costume on? I think that was a nice little nod to his old school convictions, what it may represent is anyone's guess.

Plus (and I think I forgot to say this in my last post) I'm glad that Sam Wilson AKA 'The Falcon' will be in this movie as I think that there should be more non white characters in those films.

There's loads in the comics after all!! !

Speaking of the comics has anyone read the original Captain America comics from the start all the way up until now?

At the moment I'm on the Joe Simon and Jack Kirby run from the 1940s, I own a large number of Marvel Masterworks (among other graphic novels) plus I have downloaded most of the unreprinted comics thanks torrent sites (I know that's a bit dodgy but it's the only way I can own them)

In the near future I shall tell you my observations on the development of the character.

At the moment I have uploaded videos on YouTube where I talk about the comics...



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18 Feb 2014, 11:00 pm

Just read the comments relating to the Man of Steal film, and I would like to point out that Superman's slaying of General Zod is nothing new, as if one reads the old Golden Age comics of Superman one will find that he kills villains left right and center!

It wasn't until he became popular that the head of DC Comics told the writers of both the comics and the the Newspaper Strip that the Man of Tomorrow had to cerb the killing, lest his character became unpopular with parents.

Hence Superman began to become the Big Blue Boy Scout we all know and love today, although I'm told that in the newspaper strip he was still bad ass for a little while longer.

This was also done for other DC characters as well, most notably Batman, who would often use firearms in his early adventures, before this was dropped too.

However the idea of Superman taking less a than moral stand in order to get rid of his foes would not lie as in a 1953 episode of the Adventures of Superman TV series entitled 'The Stolen Costume' Clark Kent finds his Superman costume stolen and his secret identity blown by villains who try to blackmail him.

After he sorts out the villains (and gets his costume back) he leaves them on the top of a mountain, with the promise that he will return every month to give them supply's.

However (and one wonders if Sups knew that his foes would try this) they try to get down (without climbing equipment) and thus fall to their doom.