Is Disney Ruining Marvel?

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Truth be told I'm just a little hesitant to see Thor The Dark World. I feel that Iron Man 3 didn't really work because it was disneyfied. Sure The Avengers was the first but somehow it really worked and I'm hoping the same for Thor The Dark World. Sure it's been getting some positive feedback by critics and some audience but so did Iron Man 3 and look how that turned out. But I guess I can't really judge it until I see it but I'll still be a little hesitant.

I don't think Disney was behind the colossal Mandarin screwup; it was probably Shane Black's idea. That's why you don't allow someone with a stronger basis in comedy than action handle what's essentially a stylized war film. Robert Downey's probably to blame in part as well, since he helped bring Shane to the project.

"Iron Man 3" wasn't horrible - none of them carry that label. But on the whole, I do think its the least consistent of all three so far.

I get that they wanted the psychological angle in Hulk, but if they wanted to do it right they should have gotten Peter David to write it. Best Hulk writer ever IMO. Ang Lee just went too far with it and forgot to give Hulk a decent villain to fight....

As for Incredible Hulk 2...with Mark Ruffalo becoming an immensely popular part of Avengers & the MCU as a whole there's no reason NOT to do it now. Plus, as I mentioned in my previous post, I want to see She-Hulk ( possibly played by Gina Carrano? )

Peter David actually wrote the novelization of the 2003 film; I enjoyed it.

I don't know who Gina is, but She-Hulk's an interesting character. I'd go with Daniela Ruah from "NCIS: Los Angeles".

Couldn't have said it better myself. The trouble with American superhero comics I've found is that they're so wrapped up in their own mythos, it's incredibly difficult for a newcomer to come in and just enjoy what's on offer. At least, that's what I felt after watching some older material of Marvel and DC - and well, that's how I feel about DC in general.

Now, I'm not saying Disney-Marvel's union is perfect - I personally didn't care for Iron Man 2 (OK, technically Paramount but they relinquished their rights to Disney), Thor, nor Captain America and I probably won't bother with any of the Phase 2 movies (Winter Soldier, Avengers 2, Guardians of the Galaxy) nor the Agents of SHIELD TV series (not a fan of Joss Whedon's style of writing). That's just me though.

That said, there's no denying that nowadays Marvel has a lot more exposure and generates a lot more revenue beyond typical (mostly American) comic-book enthusiasts and in my opinion, I think that's thanks in part to making Disney-Marvel far more accessible and relatable to a wider audience. Gone are the days of Marvel's mid-90s bankruptcy as a result (well, other than Disney paying royally that is)

So, yeah, to reiterate my point, though I don't like some aspects of what Disney-Marvel have produced (mostly the newer animated fare), I don't see Disney "ruining" Marvel, at least not yet (I'm scared Guardians of the Galaxy will turn out like the Green Lantern movie did for Warner). Regardless of my own and other people's opinions, if what they're doing makes money, then they'll just keep going with it. And if people like it, good.

Gina Carrano is an MMA fighter. She was also on the more recent American Gladiators as Crush. Can't argue with Daniella Ruah though....she's part of why I love NCIS: LA ( too bad the main NCIS lost Ziva though...just doesn't feel right without her )

First, I want to say that I agree with you about Rogue's powers. I also don't think that her superstrength and flight would have worked that well in the movies. She does fine without them. After all, in the comics her flight and strength are secondary powers that she's stolen from Ms. Marvel, and that would have convoluted her backstory in the movies. Also, X-Men Evolution has proven that Rogue is just as interesting with her absorbing powers alone, which form the primary source of her inner conflict.

I respectfully disagree with your last point, though. For all the power that Jean acquired as the Phoenix in the comics, her development of those powers spanned a story arc of 30 issues before culminating in the Dark Phoenix Saga. And the DP Saga itself was stretched out over 9 issues. Moreover, the psychic battle that she fought against Professor X was decided in favour of the latter (temporarily), unlike the same battle in X-Men 3: The Last Stand. Overpowered though she was in the comic books, this was in step with the power levels of some of the foes the X-Men faced. Think of Proteus, Gladiator, and Firelord. They don't go up against powerhouses of that stature unless you count Magneto.

My complaint is not so much about how Jean's power was portrayed in the movie, as it is about the emotional aspect of it. The Dark Phoenix Saga revolves around Jean's struggle with her growing powers, combined with the complete loss of all inhibition and restraint. Jean revels in the godlike abilities that the Phoenix powers have granted her. In the movie, however, she is mostly emotionless and cold. Phoenix was all about passion without boundaries. The one thing that could undo Phoenix in the end was Jean herself by choosing to take her own life, but only AFTER her friends had fought at her side to defend her. Only AFTER she and Scott make their last stand. He is right beside her until her final moment. That's what was missing from X3. All X3 gives us is Wolverine's mercy kill. It's swift, and even if you're unfamiliar with the comics, it lacks build-up, and therefore lacks emotional satisfaction.

What's slightly odd is that even though she plays Eric Christian Olsen's love interest in the series, she's actually married to his brother David.

I just saw Thor the Dark World today and I gotta say it was pretty good. Though personally I think maybe the first one is still better but remember I said maybe, it takes more than one viewing. It had it's share of humour but although I said Disney may ruin it like they did Iron Man 3 I gotta say they did the exact opposite. OK for the record I don't think Iron Man 3 is a bad movie but it did have a lot of bad humour but Thor The Dark World somehow succeeded. Sure the humour was a little tongue in cheek at times and a little weird and even some scenes that weren't that funny but not even unfunny but still I enjoyed it.

Disney played it safe with iron man 3 many were not pleased and from what i hear thor a dark world is not much better .