Is it true that SJW movies only exist because of Trump?

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One of my cousins was something of a holdover from the "Beatnik" era, and perceived symbolism -- be it Freudian, Commie, Fascist, whatever -- in every form of media entertainment.  Back in the 1970s, she was the first to point out to me that Bert and Ernie could be gay, that The Rifleman was a walking phallic symbol for male dominance, and that Mr. Spock symbolized the diabolic influences of science over humanity.

Yeah ... I have some weird relatives!

I think Bert and Ernie are asexual, and the rifleman as a character was no more masculine than the villains he went up against. Isn't that kind of overthinking things, or no?

Bert is like the regular guy in “Of Mice and Men.”

Ernie, in a sense, is like that guy who never grew up.

SJW movies have existed long before Trump took office. You may notice feminism in some films back in the 1990s.

I don't see how any of this is political.

‘9 to 5’ from 1980 was a feminist movie under the guise of a comedy. “The Great Dictator” was a 1940 political statement under the guise of a comedy. What is recent in the US is the woke notion that EVERY movie HAS TO push the agenda. The result and what I believe the OP is complaining about is that it takes away from the quality of the movie when agenda pushing is forced into scenes where it does not belong.

There was lots of feminism in movies during the 60s and 70s.....trust me!

Lots of “women’s lib.”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... rientation



It seems fair to conclude that they were always written as a romantic couple.

When the OP said “SJW” films, I interpreted it not as films about social justice, but how now we have to walk on eggshells out of fear of offending people.

The recent voice recasts on the Simpsons is a good example.

I don’t believe Bert and Ernie were romantic.

They were just good buddies—rather like Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello.

Jurassic Park also had feminism in it. Ellie Sattler was considered a feminist character because she was a tomboy and didn't act like a typical woman. Steven Spielberg made it that way when he redid the script for the film. That film was considered to be ahead of its time. But I don't ever remember reading how people complained about that movie because Ellie wasn't lady like enough. Today, I would see these right wing SJWs moaning about it if such film were made today. But she was a blonde haired blue eyed white woman.

Hey Arnold also had homosexuality in it but is was guised. I am also noticing the transphobia in the old films. Men dressing as women was always portrayed as men being women.

I also remember the film Bruno with Alex D Linz and he liked to wear dresses in the film and dress up as a girl. Now I wonder if he was trans but it was never mentioned. He said he wore them to express himself.

Disney did a episode in one of their series and they had a robot character who was gender neutral and wouldn't tell anyone if they were a boy or a girl because it was "none of your business." I can't remember what TV show that was.

Rugrats had mix race couple in it, Charles Finster marries Kara who was Japanese and she and her daughter both move to the US from Paris to live together.

So I would say around the year 2000, films and TV shows were starting to get more obvious what they were doing than being guised about it and subtle. But even back then I do not remember people complaining about it till the last few years as if this wasn't already being done long before Trump.

I disagree there is an agenda going on here because it was already been happening for a while.

Honestly I am not going to change my stories to avoid offending people. I will keep using the R word in my stories because that was the word kids used when I was a teenager in the year 2000 and 2001 and that was the word I was called as well. I am not going to water down our history and reality making my stories be unrealistic.

Just like how I feel old films shouldn't be edited nor cancelled and should be left alone because we need our history so we can see what things were like then vs now.

I know that there was a Lloyd in Space episode that had a character that was part of an alien race that get to choose their gender once they reach a certain age. The episode had the boys and girls trying to convince them to choose their gender, and I think both groups somewhat learned that they should not be so hostile if the alien would choose the other gender, before asking if they could get an answer. But in the end the alien said that they are not telling because it is none of anyone else's business. Arguably it was only their sex that they chose, and their gender was actually non-binary.

They likely can't do episodes like that now without the Right saying that it is being too political, regardless of their needing to be more need than ever.

Ernie is just a little boy who likes to take a bath with his rubber duckie.

If Bert had sexual designs on Ernie, he’d be a pervert.

The relationship was more like a distant relative taking care of a child.

You say pervert like it's a bad thing.
Maybe that's just the nature of their relationship - and who are we to judge what those muppets do when they aren't on camera? Besides, we already know they're kinky enough to only be on camera when they've got someone's hand up their backside.

In it’s original TV incarnation (which you can watch on Cozi TV), Charlie’s Angels, along with The Bionic Woman, and Three’s Company, are known as “jiggly shows,” mainly because the scripts are less than meaningful, and are mostly very, very soft porn, specifically watching female breasts jiggle whenever they start doing any kind of physical activity.

Frankly, I’d rather watch Dame Angela Lansbury and Betty White on their respective shows (Murder, She Wrote, as well as The Mary Tyler Moore Show/The Golden Girls, and with her late husband, Alan Ludden, Password, respectively) than the jiggly shows, as well as any current show currently in theaters, as well as the boob tube.

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I know you’re kidding lol

I have to learn to take jokes better.

In all seriousness, there’s NOTHING sexual about Bert and Ernie. If there was, it would be really sick.