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12 Feb 2009, 7:59 pm

I wouldn't mind seeing a Falling Down sort of movie with an AS protagonist. Continual disenfranchisement from society through cultural bias, and relegation to inferior social positions as a result of that bias, is going to produce some angry individuals.


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13 Feb 2009, 12:41 am

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The romance aspect is too unrealistic because people with aspergers can't relate to that. We know the reality is 80-90% of them will probably never get dates. They need to make a movie that real people with aspergers can relate to. Have the main character be alone and to have him deal with his issues in his own way. I'm sick of people stereotyping that people with aspergers are good at math or engineering too. I can hardly do pre-algebra now, others I knew with aspergers had a learning disability in math. Then again, everything is sterotyped in one sense and I suppose aspergers is no exception.

QFT. I find it disappointing that I'll never be able to relate to any of these movies. Math was never a strong point for me, and romantic/sexual relationships are completely alien to me. These movies seem to be an idealistic NT perspective on Aspies. I don't need an NT telling "my story."

But I guess a realistic view of Aspies' lives might be too "boring" to make a movie out of.

Keep in mind that there is a wide variance to the level of AS "suffering".
Some of us do manage to have relationships. Some of us are good at technical things.
Stereotypes are what makes movies and entertainment.



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13 Feb 2009, 5:27 am

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I wouldn't mind seeing a Falling Down sort of movie with an AS protagonist. Continual disenfranchisement from society through cultural bias, and relegation to inferior social positions as a result of that bias, is going to produce some angry individuals.

"he was a quiet man"?



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13 Feb 2009, 7:10 pm

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Keep in mind that there is a wide variance to the level of AS "suffering".
Some of us do manage to have relationships. Some of us are good at technical things.


The key word being "some". The divorce rate for Asperger's is 80% according to a Dutch study (and that's not even taking into account those who cannot even interact with those of the opposite sex). Only 10-12% work full time. Those stats would suggest the majority of those with AS suffer quite a bit.


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16 Feb 2009, 8:16 am

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I would like to see a movie about an aspie who grew up in the ghetto. Like maybe East Los Angeles. It could be about how he made himself into a big time drug dealer, but then gets capped for selling drugs on the wrong block.


"big time" drug dealers arent on the block selling drugs.



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16 Feb 2009, 11:21 am

looks good, I am looking forward to it.



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17 Feb 2009, 7:54 am

Unfortunately, all films with autistic people in them are gonna be doing maths and stuff because that's what the majority people want to see.

Usually I absolutely hate romance films but Mozart And The Whale was OK so I might be interested in this as long as I can find it on YouTube or something.



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18 Feb 2009, 5:38 pm

Homer_Bob wrote:
The romance aspect is too unrealistic because people with aspergers can't relate to that. We know the reality is 80-90% of them will probably never get dates. They need to make a movie that real people with aspergers can relate to. Have the main character be alone and to have him deal with his issues in his own way. I'm sick of people stereotyping that people with aspergers are good at math or engineering too. I can hardly do pre-algebra now, others I knew with aspergers had a learning disability in math. Then again, everything is sterotyped in one sense and I suppose aspergers is no exception.


I'm not quite sure what you mean. People with Asperger's have relationships. They just have their own difficulties. I'm married. Many people have relationships, even thouse with autism. I'm female, if that makes any difference. I suck horribly at math. I do however have ridiculous sensory problems though, I wonder if they will address problems like that in this kind of movie. The truth seems to be that there are tons of people to categorize in one "asperger's lump" I am an artist, I paint and make sculpture, so I may not fit into the steryotypes very well myself. :wink:



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18 Feb 2009, 9:28 pm

I read the thing. They make him out to be much worse than aspies are. I know this movie will be bad. It'll be about a cutsey childlike aspie who fumbles around finding love with an NT woman.



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19 Feb 2009, 8:18 am

Cyberman wrote:
But I guess a realistic view of Aspies' lives might be too "boring" to make a movie out of.


The thing is that you could say that about anyone. Most people's lives are too boring to make a movie of, so you have to jazz it up.

Unfortunately that, to most people, means adding romance. I don't know why. What about competition? I'd love to see a movie about a quiz bowl tournament (BESIDES The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes).



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19 Feb 2009, 2:59 pm

Isn't this the same one shown at the Sundance Film Festival?


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19 Feb 2009, 4:33 pm

GeoffNZ wrote:
Cyberman wrote:
Homer_Bob wrote:
The romance aspect is too unrealistic because people with aspergers can't relate to that. We know the reality is 80-90% of them will probably never get dates. They need to make a movie that real people with aspergers can relate to. Have the main character be alone and to have him deal with his issues in his own way. I'm sick of people stereotyping that people with aspergers are good at math or engineering too. I can hardly do pre-algebra now, others I knew with aspergers had a learning disability in math. Then again, everything is sterotyped in one sense and I suppose aspergers is no exception.

QFT. I find it disappointing that I'll never be able to relate to any of these movies. Math was never a strong point for me, and romantic/sexual relationships are completely alien to me. These movies seem to be an idealistic NT perspective on Aspies. I don't need an NT telling "my story."

But I guess a realistic view of Aspies' lives might be too "boring" to make a movie out of.

Keep in mind that there is a wide variance to the level of AS "suffering".
Some of us do manage to have relationships. Some of us are good at technical things.
Stereotypes are what makes movies and entertainment.


@all : Some of us do manage to have relationships you know.

@cyberman: Mozart and the whale is based on a real couple. Hence by definition it is realistic. Because to be unrealistic, it would have to have the REAL couple fail.

And we are on a SPECTRUM here people. No film AS can ever represent us all.


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19 Feb 2009, 6:52 pm

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And we are on a SPECTRUM here people. No film AS can ever represent us all.

True, but they're still leaving out a huge fraction of us in order to represent what a few of us are like.

And anyway, I usually don't like romance movies, so I'm a little disappointed by this. In many ways, romances are a misrepresentation of human beings in general, not just Aspies.



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19 Feb 2009, 7:41 pm

Cyberman wrote:
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And we are on a SPECTRUM here people. No film AS can ever represent us all.

True, but they're still leaving out a huge fraction of us in order to represent what a few of us are like.

And anyway, I usually don't like romance movies, so I'm a little disappointed by this. In many ways, romances are a misrepresentation of human beings in general, not just Aspies.


Doesnt matter which parts of the spectrum they pick, it will only ever be a fraction.


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20 Feb 2009, 8:52 pm

I would like to see an aspie comedy, not in the vein of Napoleon Dynamite, more Leslie Nielsen style. Something about how a problematic obsession gets him or her into heaps of trouble.

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I would like to see a movie about an aspie who grew up in the ghetto. Like maybe East Los Angeles. It could be about how he made himself into a big time drug dealer, but then gets capped for selling drugs on the wrong block.


I would watch that.


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21 Feb 2009, 11:16 am

ignisfatuus wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing a Falling Down sort of movie with an AS protagonist. Continual disenfranchisement from society through cultural bias, and relegation to inferior social positions as a result of that bias, is going to produce some angry individuals.



But then you'd have Aspies bawwing over how it should be banned because it protrays Aspies in a bad light and will make NTs think that all Aspies are psychotic killers and ZOMG write the the filmmaker and tell them how offended you all were!

Somebody made a short film for a horror film competition where a ret*d guy is persuaded by another guy to kill a girl. Somebody on aspiesforfreedom was wailing on the forum about how horribly offensive it was towards Autistic people (the guy in the film DID NOT come across as autistic btw!) and wanted everyone on the website to write to the website hosting the films to express their disgust.

It's almost as bad as childfree people who BAWWWWW because "ZOMG a character became pregnant in a movie and it's so unbelievably horrible and offensive towards childfree people!" (the twit in question was bawwing about Hellboy: The Golden Army where the pregnancy was barely touched on and there was certainly no 'ga ga go go' crap)