New Battlestar Galactica
Actually, I liked Legend of the Rangers - however, it suffered from the same problem as Crusade (not enough sex or violence to make TNT happy, and besides too many of the cast were aliens, which the network felt would make the show "unrelatable" to the audience - because of course nobody relates to the Klingons or Vulcans on Star Trek or anything like that...).
I still want the box set of Crusade, purely for the one episode I ever saw in its entirety - an X-Files takeoff. (The Crusade had found a world which was in about the same stage of development as late-20th-century Earth, and two rogue government agents of that world's most powerful nation, who specialized in cases that everyone else laughed, at found the ship entering their system. The mysterious person who shut them down at the end even lit a cigarette as he was bidding the Crusade farewell...)
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I still want the box set of Crusade, purely for the one episode I ever saw in its entirety - an X-Files takeoff. (The Crusade had found a world which was in about the same stage of development as late-20th-century Earth, and two rogue government agents of that world's most powerful nation, who specialized in cases that everyone else laughed, at found the ship entering their system. The mysterious person who shut them down at the end even lit a cigarette as he was bidding the Crusade farewell...)
I definitely believe that a TV series based on Legend of the Rangers could have been very good.
I still want the box set of Crusade, purely for the one episode I ever saw in its entirety - an X-Files takeoff. (The Crusade had found a world which was in about the same stage of development as late-20th-century Earth, and two rogue government agents of that world's most powerful nation, who specialized in cases that everyone else laughed, at found the ship entering their system. The mysterious person who shut them down at the end even lit a cigarette as he was bidding the Crusade farewell...)
Sounds like quite the shout-out to Chris Carter. IIRC, JMS and Chris Carter were going to do a TV show together but for some reason it fell through.
But it reminds me that one of my favorite bits of B5 was the season 4 finale, which visited time periods way in the future from the main B5 timeline - my favorite bit was the visit to post-nuclear future earth, where in the monestary they're all studying these 'religious' figures and the by-then mythical rangers, and it turns out that the chief monk *is* in fact a ranger.
I am so disappointed in the new Battlestar Galactica !
Now saying that, there were some ok shows in the series, but even those few episodes could have been so much better!
I"m not sure what all went wrong with the series ...... It could have been the Executive Producers falt,the writers falt,or maybe the Directors falt.
What I do think is ,the actors all did an outstanding job ,but if the show sucks the the show sucks.
I watched the first Battlestar Galactica as a kid and I was so excited that someone was going to make a new one. I would have been fine with the show being darker more gritty after all I'm not a kid any more . I"m more darker and gritty.....lol
I will say this , at first, I was not happy at all with the facted they changed the ship ,I loved the original , it looked exactly what a Battlestar should look like. Bye the time the series ended I like the ship a lot more ,and having said that ,I think it was a mistakes not to make the new Battlestar look more like the old one! I think the only thing that sold me liking the the new ship was the Pegasus . In the episode "THE CAPTAIN'S HAND" there were some outstanding shots of the Pegasus in battle and not in battle. You made the Pegasus look so much better then the Galactica. What a dum move!
I know the Galactica was an older ship but you could have made the Galactica look better in the beging of the series.
The "THE CAPTAIN'S HAND" was one of the episode I liked. Yes I do know that in the series the Galactica was going to be decommissioned but that did not mean the Pegasus had to look so much superior then Galactica . The Pegasus could have been a better Battlestar but the Galactica could have looked more imposing. After all the show was called "Battlestar Galactica ".
One thing I could not put my finger on ,was the look of the show. If the original show was to bright the new one was to dark. I hated the way they filmed the series. When they filmed in side you could barlly see any colour in the series and if there was some light come from somewhere the actors look all wrong ........ They looked all pastty ,too white and outside it was worst ! I would have liked to have seen the colours that a person would have seen if they were outside. It was so white and looked cold I think it was filmed like that to have a certain look but I did not like it.
The thing I hated the most and I hated it, was when they had characters see someone in there head . I"m talking about "Baltar " when he would see "Number six " in his head and when "six"thinks she seen "Baltar in her head . What a wast of my time watching that . The other wast of time that I will never get back was when I watched the episodes that had "Helo" on Caprica. When I stated to watch Battlestar Galactica,I wanted to watch Battlestar Galactica not the show ""Helo on Caprica!" I guss they realized how dum that was and lets hope they fired the writer that came up with that idea.
I thought the writing was good in the facted that ,what the writers wrote a person could fallow along but most of the episodes sucked.
The God thing was so bad thorough the show and why on earth did they not use the Cylon more ?
I almost forgot,I started to buy the series before I seen it,so even though I was disappointed. I had to see if it would get better. So I ketped buying the seasons and so when they decided to spit the season 2 in half and change full price for each half what a rip-off and they did it again for the last season.
Well because they riped me off on so many levels , I will not buy CAPRICA.
I'm afraid I feel that Richard Hatch is a sell out, Battlestar Galactica could have been so much better.. Now having said that, I did like the character he played. "Tom Zarek" was a nice surprise but the way he went out was a wimper ..... Lets face it "Zarek" wanted power and he could have got it though the "Cylons " and had it out with Adama ship to ship ,Battlestar against "Cylons Base ship". That would have been sweet!
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Okay, first off, the Pegasus looked so much better because she was a brand-new, front-line ship. If you had watched the miniseries that launched the new version, you would have known that the Galactica was an old warhorse, dating back to the first Cylon War some forty years earlier, and she was on the verge of being decommissioned and turned into an orbiting museum around Caprica. (In fact, that's why she survived - since she was being decommissioned, no one bothered updating her navigation and fire controls, so the backdoor that Caprica Six had snuck into Dr. Baltar's code was never installed aboard her.)
The "look" you complain about for the lighting and set design was based on the idea that the Galactica was a warship. Nothing aboard was intended for leisure, or relaxation, just for killing Cylons. Go aboard a modern aircraft carrier or guided-missile frigate, and you'll find that the designs aren't that different from the Galactica set - quite deliberately. It was intended to evoke a mood with minimal exposition, so they could have time for the actual show.
The head characters were intended to be rather mysterious, although their true nature was laid bare in the finale (and admitted to earlier by one of them - admittedly, in such fashion that Baltar never believed her...). I thought it was a really cool reveal when we learned, in "Downloaded", that CapSix had a head-Baltar. Made me start to wonder if the head characters were just manifestations of the characters' guilt. I wasn't all that surprised by the final reveal, though. I did love the line shared by Baltar and Capsix - "You can see them?"
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i have never watched the original series but i hope to someday but i thought that the show was amazing. i don't think it was too action-y or had too much dialogue in it, but i like how the people portrayed in it were portrayed correctly, as people. they had their flaws that might never get worked out problems that didn't get solved simply because they were people and that's how it worked. there were always many many different views that all the characters had and they went into it beautifully. there was never a time where i felt that Baltar was totally right or that Admiral Adama knew exactly what he was talking about. there was one time that i loved. (bit of a spoiler here) it was during Baltar's trial and how Gaita (is that how you spell it?) lied about Baltar signing the death warrant willfully. and it wasn't like brought up later and turned inside out and revealed to be false. Gaita took that with him to his grave and it really showed how realistic the show can be. sometimes your friends will (though they can hardly be considered friends they did have a bit of a relationship going on there) turn on you and it won't get resolved in 30 minutes or if ever.
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Daishi, the original series is fun in its own way - but you have to turn off your critical faculties to enjoy it. You have to be able to swallow things like laser beams that explode in a vacuum, fearsome warrior robots that can barely walk and have no peripheral vision (or non-visual sensors), Aliens of the Week (the first regular episode, as I recall, features the Disco Bee Aliens), and fires on board a spacecraft that aren't put out in the obvious way (I spent much of the episode "Fire In Space" screaming at the TV, trying to tell the crew to just open the frakking landing bay to space already!).
But avoid the followon, Galactica 1980 - there is no possible suspension of disbelief that could make that mess enjoyable...
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heh noted. i'm actually hanging out with this girl currently and we're trying to watch the original Star Trek series from the very first episode (complete with paper mache rocks and everything) and also the original Doctor Who series so i guess if i can stomach those Battlestar Galactica should be no problem.
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"Not to complain, but why is there a sharp pain in the small of my back?"
"Well how do you expect a healing shiv works? Magic?"
I'm not so sure about that. I'm watching the original Star Trek right now (on maybe Disc 4 of the Blu Rays of Season 1), and it's mostly really, really good. It's held up REALLY well, and is much more similar to Next Generation than I realized-it's more often thoughtful than not.
I wish they had shot more on-location stuff though, rather than the foam rocks thing, but the stories hold up well, and are AMAZING for the time!
I think The Original Series and Next Generation really do fit together well, as one thing, and the next three are kind of something else, and then the new movie is...very fun, but not Star Trek. The more I watch of the original series, the more critical I am of the new Star Trek film, which just lacks anything of what the original show was about (and is almost it's opposite in a lot of ways).
well that's good to know. i read that the first couple of episodes received very small positive feedback but we were going to stick through it anyway. (and neither of us have watched anything else Star Trek, i saw the new movie but i don't know if she has or not)
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"Not to complain, but why is there a sharp pain in the small of my back?"
"Well how do you expect a healing shiv works? Magic?"
It's kind of interesting/weird t see how concepts gel as the show goes on. Where I am they STILL haven't even made up the federation yet!
There are at least two characters so far who seem like they may be Q...
Well, hope you like it, though I can understand how some people might not. It and Next Ge eration are closer to "hard" science fiction than the action movies most things set in space are.
i think i'll like it, i can deal with older things like that. i mean heck i own a copy of Nosferatu 1922 and one of my favorite comedy movies is Duck Soup
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"Not to complain, but why is there a sharp pain in the small of my back?"
"Well how do you expect a healing shiv works? Magic?"
One thing that's possibly weird about me-I acually prefer the orignal special effects to the new ones (the Blu Ray version has both). Part of it is I don't like the new effects-they're very bad cgi-and part is if I'm watching this anyway, I kind of enjoy seeing it as it originally aired.