Sheldon Cooper. Aspie, or offensive parody?

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26 Sep 2014, 5:21 pm

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My first impression was also that all the guys were aspies, with Sheldon being more severe. But I don't think so anymore, having watched more of the show. Raj, Howard and Leonard are just nerds, not aspies.


Though Raj would become mute when in the presence of the opposite sex, and would have to have Howard speak for him, as he muttered questions to Howard with downcast eyes - unless he was drunk. Sounds at least a bit Aspieish to me. They've of course had him overcome that debilitating shyness, which might be s sign of him compensating for his high functioning autism, or possibly because the writers thought the gag was wearing thin, or just out of laziness on their part.

Raj suffers from extreme shyness, which has nothing to do with AS. Some aspies are shy, as are some NTs and a few in either group suffer debilitating shyness. I went to mainstream school, and in my junior high class I had two classmates who were really shy. One of them blushed if people looked at him and had a real hard time talking in class. Shyness is not something that is specific for AS, and a lot of us aren't shy.
The way Raj has Howard talk for him in the presence of women comes off as infantile; it's how a shy child might behave and have his mother or other trusted person speak for him. It doesn't seem aspieish to me.


There is some cross over between selective muteness and ASD as they get sensory overload. SM is a very real thing and I am glad that they wrote a character in with it however they've kept it as a running joke and it's losing it's appeal. It can go hand in hand with autism sometimes, and the gf that kept taking off when she felt overwhelmed I think is more autistic than just shy as just sending a meal back was way too much for her to process and overwhelming.

Sheldon, despite some symptoms being exaggerated is endearing and while some may have a problem with how he's represented on the whole I think he has given the "NT" audience (NT as in just normal) some understanding which can only be a good thing and shows that there are ways to connect with people who are different.



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27 Sep 2014, 9:13 pm

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Sheldon, despite some symptoms being exaggerated is endearing and while some may have a problem with how he's represented on the whole I think he has given the "NT" audience (NT as in just normal) some understanding which can only be a good thing and shows that there are ways to connect with people who are different.


This is one positive about the show...I guess the more you try and make drama or comedy fit real world fidelity the entertainment value starts to wear thin.



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29 Sep 2014, 12:07 pm

Jumping in here. I have seen every episode of Big Bang and love the show. I personally didn't catch the AS undertones as much at the start of the series, but as it goes on they have some really emotional moment related to AS-like issues. For instance at the end of last season when (spoiler ahead) Penny and Leonard get engaged and several other things are going on as well, Sheldon has a moment of explaining why the changes are hard and that he just needs to go away for a while. Leonard wants to protect him to some degree and Penny encourages Sheldon to go because it is what he needs.

Honestly the social dynamics of the group are really complex behind the comedy. Very endearing under all the laughs.

As a side note, my father (who is very AS-ish himself) worked as an engineer for years in aerospace. He said that the relationships and conversations in that "nerdy" environment were very similar to the show. He said a lot of the engineers were of the same personality type as the men on the show. So at least in that respect it seems true to life.



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29 Sep 2014, 6:34 pm

We can not be watching the same show. It's a funny show but I see absolutely nothing endearing there.


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29 Sep 2014, 7:00 pm

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We can not be watching the same show. It's a funny show but I see absolutely nothing endearing there.


Different strokes for different folks.


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29 Sep 2014, 8:29 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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We can not be watching the same show. It's a funny show but I see absolutely nothing endearing there.


Different strokes for different folks.


Agreed. :D There are things my friends/family watch that I totally see differently than they do.



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27 Nov 2015, 2:56 am

I love Sheldon.

If his beautiful mind came wrapped in a rugged bearded package with a high sex drive, he would be my ideal mate.


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27 Nov 2015, 7:30 am

Parody because it's comic show.

But i like The Big Bang.



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03 Dec 2015, 10:28 am

I don't like the show because I don't think the jokes are funny, but I don't see how it's offensive.

Aspies are weird. We have awkward encounters. That makes good comedy. And Aspies are different from one another. So my encounters could seem weird to another Aspie. I also know my encounters with people can make good comedy. My responses sometimes make people laugh. I'm not offended by it. If anything, I'm glad that at least it entertains someone.



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05 Dec 2015, 8:13 pm

To be honest, mixed feelings. I used to love the show, but I felt like it jumped the shark during the 3rd season when they actually had Sheldon go on a date with someone. I'm not trying to imply Aspies don't date, as I know a few who have, but part of what made Sheldon so appealing to me was that he enjoyed his solitude...a LOT! I can see where some people would think he isn't exactly the most flattering character, though. I'm on the spectrum myself and view myself more as a Leonard type - geeky (somewhat) but still relatively accessible to people who aren't.



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05 Dec 2015, 11:29 pm

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To be honest, mixed feelings. I used to love the show, but I felt like it jumped the shark during the 3rd season when they actually had Sheldon go on a date with someone. I'm not trying to imply Aspies don't date, as I know a few who have, but part of what made Sheldon so appealing to me was that he enjoyed his solitude...a LOT! I can see where some people would think he isn't exactly the most flattering character, though. I'm on the spectrum myself and view myself more as a Leonard type - geeky (somewhat) but still relatively accessible to people who aren't.


I certainly should hope us Aspies can date, as I'm an Aspie and am married.


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05 Dec 2015, 11:44 pm

Well, I just got back from Steel City Con,
where I dressed as my favorite Star Trek character Q as usual
and said hello to Chekov (actor Walter Koenig)
and another one of the Q (actor Corbin Bernsen)
plus I may have just made a friend who is also a Q.

She's not exactly 100% like me of course,
I think I'm more intense.
That said, it's always nice to find people
who are on the same wavelength.

I don't see how I could be offended by a parody
that seems really close to how I am in real life. :)

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07 Dec 2015, 6:11 pm

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To be honest, mixed feelings. I used to love the show, but I felt like it jumped the shark during the 3rd season when they actually had Sheldon go on a date with someone. I'm not trying to imply Aspies don't date, as I know a few who have, but part of what made Sheldon so appealing to me was that he enjoyed his solitude...a LOT! I can see where some people would think he isn't exactly the most flattering character, though. I'm on the spectrum myself and view myself more as a Leonard type - geeky (somewhat) but still relatively accessible to people who aren't.


I certainly should hope us Aspies can date, as I'm an Aspie and am married.


Of course we can!! Sadly, I am currently single :/



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07 Dec 2015, 9:19 pm

GriffinGuitar12 wrote:
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To be honest, mixed feelings. I used to love the show, but I felt like it jumped the shark during the 3rd season when they actually had Sheldon go on a date with someone. I'm not trying to imply Aspies don't date, as I know a few who have, but part of what made Sheldon so appealing to me was that he enjoyed his solitude...a LOT! I can see where some people would think he isn't exactly the most flattering character, though. I'm on the spectrum myself and view myself more as a Leonard type - geeky (somewhat) but still relatively accessible to people who aren't.


I certainly should hope us Aspies can date, as I'm an Aspie and am married.


Of course we can!! Sadly, I am currently single :/


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08 Dec 2015, 7:13 am

Not offensive, but a lot of stereotypes that we need to and are slowly starting to move away from.


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09 Dec 2015, 6:14 pm

I like Sheldon. Jim Parsons is the only reason why I watch The Big Bang Theory.


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