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well it looks like jamesy forfeited

I thought the acting was a lot more dramatic in batman forever than the dark knight. One of the best things about batman forever is that the villians like the ridler and two face are very memorable. I loved watching batman forever growing up. I would go as far as saying Batman Forever is the best film I have ever seen in my life and i have seen a lot of movies.

The chemistry between Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey was very good. Indeed they were very good villians and yes ecentric as well like batman villians are suppoused to be like. The witty one liners got me into fits of laughter.

Watching Batman Forever also makes me remeber how great the 1990's films were compared to more recent films.

I thought Val Kilmer was better than Christian Bale becasue he did not take his character too seriously and actually added a bit of character to batman. Val Kilmer is a great actor and was faitful to the comics view of the dark knight.

The location settings in the dark knight were bland and dull to the extent that just watching the film on screen makes you loose your attention span in 2 minutes. I mean gotham city looks like chicago. the gotham city in batman forever was so surreal and really kept your eyes glued to the city and yet again adding to that sense of escapisim.

And last but not least WHY IS A WELSHMAN PLAYING BATMAN? Nolans batman adaption are too well how can i say it REALISTIC and wordly. I loved the batman cartoons of the 90's that were serious in tone. I don't like nolans take on it though.

I am sure a lot of people do not like Nolans interepretation fo batman.

if you really think that, you do not know what drama is



the characters are memorable, but forever's version isn't



that's why you are so biased. now i see why you keep bringing kids into the conversation, because even though you are 20 years old, you are secretly a kid at heart. either that or you have the MENTALITY of a kid. I was shown batman forever when i was 8 years old, and I HATED it. Still hate it now. just because you grew up with it, doesn't mean it is the DEFINITIVE version of batman. that's the exact problem i have with Burton-fans, they grew up with '89, and REFUSE to acknowledge anything different. Jamesy, you and the burton fans are ignorant about batman. if you actually read the comics, i'm sure you would think about nolan's films and your precious "forever" differently



i should just give up now, considering this comment is so damn idiotic, but i shall continue on. you not only have bad taste in superhero films, you have bad taste in movies in general. if you really think that batman forever is your favorite movie of all time, then you really are as ignorant as Xenu and the others have been calling you. either all this, or you're a troll. troll actually seems more likely



tommy lee jones is normally a good actor, just not in this movie. also, jim carrey was just being jim carrey. they were over-the-top, goofy, and silly, NOT how batman villains are supposed to be. Also, stop talking about batman as if you know everything about him, and "that's how it's supposed to be", because it's not. you are IGNORANT when it comes to batman. stop talking about him. Forever. oh, slipped a pun in there. speaking of puns, they were horrendous. the movie had no real dialouge, just puns, bad ones too



don't make a generalization about film eras. some films from the 90's were bad, some were great. just like some films from today's age were bad, and some were great



in reality, this: Christian Bale was better than Val Kilmer becasue kilmer did not take his character too seriously and bale actually added a bit of character to batman



Val Kilmer is meh. also, DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE COMICS because i know you are lying. i know you haven't read the comics AT ALL. just a while back, you said this:



now you're opinion doesn't matter to me because you are a lying troll.



neon gotham looked gay



because christian bale is a good actor. watch american psycho



better be realistic than neon and gay. i also loved the cartoon. you can't comment on the dark side of batman, so stop talking about it



they like it more than forever, just read rotten tomatoes, metacritic, yahoo movies, etc.

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Batshit just ignore Jamesey. I mean I know it's hard but it's obvious now he is a troll so it's no use in arguing with him anymore.

If Batman Forever is the best movie ever, then im a cave-troll's uncle. Jamesy, i don't know why your so obsessed with saying this neon covered camp-fest is better than any classic movie of the 90's (Goodfellas, Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Trainspotting etc) and other classics from various decades, let's just say we agree to disagree!

Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey RUINED the characters of Two-Face and The Riddler. The former was just a Joker 89 reject and the latter tried too hard to look like a threatening loonie that uses clues. Aaron Eckhart showed us a PROPER insight into the Harvey Dent character without hamming it up, and the Two-Face make-up was based ON the Long Halloween.

As for the Riddler, let's just say im excited at how the character will turn out in the 3rd Bat-flick in 2012. I hope it erases the memories of Carrey altogether. Even the Riddler in Arkham Asylum is better, listen to the paitent interview tapes and you'll see why.

Nearly ALL of Forever's dialogue is cheesy and forced, i can't remember a single decent line from it! At least Begins had better dialogue without sounding cheesy.

Kilmer is too wooden as Batman, and O'Donnell is an annoying Robin. Nicole Kidman was hot back then though, that's the only reason why!

The Begins and TDK cast are far more superior, Bale is a decent Batman, Caine is an excellent Alfred, Neeson was a good Ra's Al Ghul, Murphy was a good Scarecrow and Gary Oldman was IDEAL for Commissioner Gordon.

My only gripe was Katie Holmes, she didn't convince me as a DA, but she and Bale had better chemistry than ANY of Forever's cast combined.

Ironic though how in film guide batman forever got 4 stars. You know whtats funny as well is I remember when batman begins first hit the screen almost 6 years ago and critics say what ruined the movie the most was the SOUL SEARCHING aspect of batman. Something along the lines of the first hour of the film is boring becaue of the whole bruce wayne finding out his identity etc....

Reiviewers also noted that one of the flaws in nolans batman movies is actually Michae Caine corny acting and lame jokes. The alfred from the 90's bat films was more believable and better actor at that. Mind you I actually do find michael caines quite amusing.

And come on how can good guy harvey in the dark knight suddently just turn evil at the drop of a hat its just dumb and does not make sense.

May i add that bob kane also thought kilmer was the best at playing batman.

Are u serious as well about batman villians not being ecentric? All the villians in the past bat films have been ecentric and even in the cartoons as well.

I couldn't give a flying f**k if Batman Forever got 4 stars in film guide, they obviously live in the past. Total Film gave Begins and Dark Knight 5 out of 5 stars, look the reviews up. They said Nolan set the bar with the former, and offically raised it with the latter.

Bob Kane must of been smoking some serious crack to think Val "Five Bellies" Kilmer is a better Batman than Christian Bale.

The whole soul-searching aspect DEFINES Batman Begins, these so-called critics obviously weren't watching carefully and never read the comics in the first place. Ironically, Tim Burton said he enjoyed Nolan's new portrayal, so suck on that one!

This is the 21st century, so keep living in the past and drooling over Batman Forever. The days of eccentric villians and wooden Bat-actors are LONG GONE.

Jamsey even though you are an obvious troll I thought I would step in and ask you did you know that even Schumacher hated his Batman films? Yes the man who made those atrocities even hated it.

He hated batman and robin not batman forever.

Val Kilmer himself loved playing the bat so much he wanted to reprise his role in Batman and Robin but had to pull out becasue of his commitment to making the Saint.

Can I also mention as well that batman forever had way better fight scenes than the dark knight. that is also what many reviewrs scrutinized the dark knight for because of its poor action scenes.

Oh yeah bob kane died in 1998 so he never saw bale.

i hate both



no, he quit because feeling that Batman was being marginalized in favor of the villains, and other reasons



no, forever's fight scences sucked, BATMAN BEGINS got patronized for shakey camera during action scenes



true, unfortunately

jamesy, why did you lie about the comics?

What do you mean I lied about the comics?

you claimed to know about the comics in this statement:




about a month back, you said this:




explain that, mr. "film buff"

You can't deny though that bale can not get the low dark voice right when playing batman though. Ledgers portyal of the joker was not great either. Jack Nicholson did a far better job.

answer my question

Well i must of said that comment about the batman comics by mistake without thinking.