What films are overrated, in your opinion?

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14 Nov 2011, 2:27 pm

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I could have though of a much better why to remind myself of things than random tattoos scatter all over. How about a nice, concise paragraph tattooed backwards on your chest so you can read it in the mirror?


I thought Leonard's tats were a bit ADHD, so maybe I could relate better. My life is in scraps of information scattered all over.

Is that really your major criticism of the film? That Leonard wasn't as organized as you would be in the same situation?


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14 Nov 2011, 2:40 pm

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The remake of Dawn of the Dead.


Very much a 3 stars out of 5 movie... just


That's 2 stars more than what I would have rated it if it were up to me. :roll:


It'd have to be a very poor film indeed to recieve a one. I thought it was watchable, just not very edifying, and making no lasting impression.


Well I judge films on how they should appeal to my tastes, not how the should appeal to the rest of the world. I could care less about the quality or budget that goes into a film just as long as I find it enjoyable.

But I guess I'm a little biased because I generally don't like remakes, and I feel that any remake of a film automatically lowers its value. The only exception is the 1990 remake of Night of the Living Dead which I felt was better than the original but it also had the same crew working on it so the intention of the film was to improve the original rather than cash in on it.


Huh, I'd never heard there was a remake of that.


Actually there's been two remakes, and I heard there's going to be a third one in CGI. :P

If you haven't seen the 1990 remake of Night of the Living Dead I highly recommend it. Tom Savini who was the make-up artist for Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead was the director of this movie and George A. Romero helped with it. It follows the same story as the original but the only change is that Barbara is made into a stronger character who actually fights to stay alive instead of just going catatonic on everyone for the whole movie. Also the special effects are a little more realistic than they were in the original, but the film isn't as gory as Tom Savini wanted because they were trying to avoid an X rating. However even Savini himself said that not showing a lot of violence seemed to work too because what you don't see can be just as effective as what you do see. :)



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14 Nov 2011, 2:48 pm

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...Is that really your major criticism of the film? That Leonard wasn't as organized as you would be in the same situation?

It just didn't hold my attention.



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14 Nov 2011, 2:54 pm

The Dawn of the Dead remake did nothing for me either. It feels like 28 Days Later without the interesting and likable characters, memorable scenes, unique visual style, and genuine sense of tension and dread. Everyone defends it by saying, "What about the opening? It was awesome!" Yeah, it was. But we're talking ten good minutes in a 100-minute movie. It's really just another zombie movie.

And while we're on the subject of overrated zombie movies, I'd like to have a word with whoever decided that Shaun of the Dead needed to be the next comedy that everyone goes crazy over.



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14 Nov 2011, 2:58 pm

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The Dawn of the Dead remake did nothing for me either. It feels like 28 Days Later without the interesting and likable characters, memorable scenes, unique visual style, and genuine sense of tension and dread. Everyone defends it by saying, "What about the opening? It was awesome!" Yeah, it was. But we're talking ten good minutes in a 100-minute movie. It's really just another zombie movie.

And while we're on the subject of overrated zombie movies, I'd like to have a word with whoever decided that Shaun of the Dead needed to be the next comedy that everyone goes crazy over.


What about the celebrity shooting gallery from the top of the mall? If that were to come to pass, it could be a way to pass the time.



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14 Nov 2011, 3:07 pm

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The Dawn of the Dead remake did nothing for me either. It feels like 28 Days Later without the interesting and likable characters, memorable scenes, unique visual style, and genuine sense of tension and dread. Everyone defends it by saying, "What about the opening? It was awesome!" Yeah, it was. But we're talking ten good minutes in a 100-minute movie. It's really just another zombie movie.

And while we're on the subject of overrated zombie movies, I'd like to have a word with whoever decided that Shaun of the Dead needed to be the next comedy that everyone goes crazy over.


I completely agree, while 28 Days Later isn't one of my top favorite zombie films it was a better film than the Dawn of the Dead remake.



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14 Nov 2011, 3:22 pm

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What about the celebrity shooting gallery from the top of the mall? If that were to come to pass, it could be a way to pass the time.


It's one of the better moments in the film. I also liked Ving Rhames playing chess with the guy across the rooftops with dry erase boards, and when they're done, the camera pans down to a street absolutely filled with zombies. The ending when they reach the island isn't bad either, and What's His Face saying goodbye to What's Her Face before leaving them on the boat was surprisingly touching. The actors sold it perfectly. And like I said, the opening ten minutes are great.

Unfortunately, I've just described every good moment in the movie. A good editor could make a fantastic half-hour short film out of Dawn of the Dead, but that leaves 70 minutes of mediocrity.

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I completely agree, while 28 Days Later isn't one of my top favorite zombie films it was a better film than the Dawn of the Dead remake.


I'm not a huge 28 Days Later fan, but that movie at least had a passion and energy to it that, aside from the opening, Dawn of the Dead is lacking entirely. Dawn feels to me like a zombie film directed by Michael Bay. It's trying so hard to be intense, but it's just sound and fury signifying nothing.



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14 Nov 2011, 3:40 pm

Titanic... Bleh! :(



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14 Nov 2011, 3:43 pm

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What films are overrated, in your opinion?

Any film where John Travolta has a speaking role.


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14 Nov 2011, 4:29 pm

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What about the celebrity shooting gallery from the top of the mall? If that were to come to pass, it could be a way to pass the time.


It's one of the better moments in the film. I also liked Ving Rhames playing chess with the guy across the rooftops with dry erase boards, and when they're done, the camera pans down to a street absolutely filled with zombies. The ending when they reach the island isn't bad either, and What's His Face saying goodbye to What's Her Face before leaving them on the boat was surprisingly touching. The actors sold it perfectly. And like I said, the opening ten minutes are great.

Unfortunately, I've just described every good moment in the movie. A good editor could make a fantastic half-hour short film out of Dawn of the Dead, but that leaves 70 minutes of mediocrity.

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I completely agree, while 28 Days Later isn't one of my top favorite zombie films it was a better film than the Dawn of the Dead remake.


I'm not a huge 28 Days Later fan, but that movie at least had a passion and energy to it that, aside from the opening, Dawn of the Dead is lacking entirely. Dawn feels to me like a zombie film directed by Michael Bay. It's trying so hard to be intense, but it's just sound and fury signifying nothing.


Many movies are just too long, but then when you get a DVD of a good movie with deleted scenes, you see even more good stuff they cut!



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14 Nov 2011, 4:48 pm

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Many movies are just too long, but then when you get a DVD of a good movie with deleted scenes, you see even more good stuff they cut!


Sometimes. I've watched lots and lots of deleted scenes on DVDs, and the vast majority of them are boring and needed to be cut. Not that I'm any less interested in seeing them if I'm a big fan of the movie, of course.



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15 Nov 2011, 5:31 pm

i really don't know how highly rated those movies are, but i personally don't understand the hype about:
lord of the rings, avatar, harry potter 1 - 100, the dark knight (especially heath ledgers joker which i really dislike, nothing against mr ledger, rip) ...
transformers, i really disliked transformers while the other audiences seemed well amused, beyond that they made part 2 & 3 and i don't get it.

mhhh ... my memory sucks.



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15 Nov 2011, 5:45 pm

The Twilight movies. Enough said.


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15 Nov 2011, 5:49 pm

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the dark knight (especially heath ledgers joker which i really dislike, nothing against mr ledger, rip)


Funny, Ledger's Joker was the only aspect of the movie that I thought was even remotely deserving of all the praise.



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15 Nov 2011, 9:11 pm

Up - Probably the most overrated animated film ever made. Most people praise the five minute look into Carl's married life but after that the movie falls flat with predictable and very 2 dimensional characters.

Mean Girls - This movie barely made me laugh. Characters and situations come straight out of every other teen film ever made. Morals are a bit backwards.



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16 Nov 2011, 9:47 pm

Batman (1989) - it barely had a story, the character of bruce wayne/batman was changed unnecessarily, and it is filled with plot holes. it relies too much on atmosphere and visuals instead of an engaging story. also, it borrowed way too much from the 60's series. it's a film that doesn't age well. it's a film that LOOKS dark, but really isn't. it is almost as campy as the 60's series. overall, it isn't that good. don't get me started on batman returns

Avatar (2009) - similar problems with '89. basically no story, overly dependent on special effects, and no real characters. it is overly simple: corporations/humans=bad, native population=good. overall, just a rehash of films like pochahontas