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03 Jan 2012, 3:20 pm

"High functioning sociopath" is clearly just a sexy thing to say.

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03 Jan 2012, 4:17 pm

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03 Jan 2012, 4:47 pm

it's interesting to see how Cumberbatch apparently described his character (if nobody else already quoted it. my apologies if it has been said already):

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Another interesting gamble is the casting of Martin Freeman, from The Office, as Watson. It is typical of Cumberbatch, a public school-educated graduate who began his career playing brainboxes such as the young Stephen Hawking, that in praising his co-star he makes a very nice distinction. “Nice” as in precise: “Martin’s a very fine actor,” Cumberbatch says, “and by ‘fine’ I mean in that very carefully balanced, nuanced way. He is a very delicate screen actor, and though he can do comedy at the drop of a hat he is achingly real as Watson, this man who is slightly lost in the civilian world, traumatised by his experience of the Afghanistan war but also slightly in thrall to it and missing the adrenalin. Also he’s an audience figure, an Everyman through whom to meet this slightly odd creature, this character of the night, this sociopathic, slightly autistic, slightly anarchic, maverick, odd antihero.”

http://www.benedictcumberbatch.co.uk/sh ... es-in.html

and yeah, i love the show!

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03 Jan 2012, 4:55 pm

pastafarian wrote:

You've got an older Tardis consol as an avatar. I felt exactly the same way about Dr Who with Moffats new Who

my avatar has nothing to do with dr who. it is the robot model b9 from an old series called "lost in space" that was my role model as a young child.

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03 Jan 2012, 5:05 pm

b9 wrote:

pastafarian wrote:

You've got an older Tardis consol as an avatar. I felt exactly the same way about Dr Who with Moffats new Who

my avatar has nothing to do with dr who. it is the robot model b9 from an old series called "lost in space" that was my role model as a young child.

Shows you what I know about Dr Who :lol:

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04 Jan 2012, 9:36 am

If you hate the style over substance of the BBC version you'd hate the new film even more.

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06 Jan 2012, 9:13 am

I love it, even if it is a little far-fetched. For anyone who saw the last episode, I can see how he worked out about it being related to a flight (I even realised that when there was no 'I'), but surely he didn't keep a timetable of all flights in his head? I let out a groan when he came out with the exact time. Or are they trying to suggest he's savant too?

I've also just read that Benedict Cumberbatch has a part in the next Star Trek movie (as a baddie, no more details).

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06 Jan 2012, 9:44 am

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The more ridiculous his deduction, the more I like it, as long as its possible. I really like John Watson too, I dont know how good Watson is in films or books, but they have made him meaty, complex, heroic and much funnier than Sherlock.

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06 Jan 2012, 9:52 am

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Couldn't have said it better!

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06 Jan 2012, 9:53 am

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:

I can see how he worked out about it being related to a flight (I even realised that when there was no 'I'), but surely he didn't keep a timetable of all flights in his head? I let out a groan when he came out with the exact time.

I thought the same thing, but seeing as that's the only major plot hole I picked up on, I was willing to let it pass considering the overall quality of the show.

If we're being pedantic (which I do like doing) then at the end, where he says that opening the phone would destroy the hard drive, he really should have said it'd destroy the flash memory - phones don't have hard drives.

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06 Jan 2012, 9:57 am

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If we're being pedantic (which I do like doing) then at the end, where he says that opening the phone would destroy the hard drive, he really should have said it'd destroy the flash memory - phones don't have hard drives.

I really should chin my husband for that one, as he's a telecoms engineer and knows a lot about mobile phones. He doesn't speak when watching TV, in case he misses something, so maybe he just forgot to mention it afterwards.

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06 Jan 2012, 10:25 am

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Couldn't have said it better!

Lovely avatar faerie queen, I would like to tame the Doctor

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06 Jan 2012, 10:32 am

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:

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Sounds like an awesome job

I'm certain he'll tell you the same thing I did, I've never known of a mobile which has a hard drive, and I've been following technology since I was little.

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06 Jan 2012, 11:12 am

I watched it just now on iplayer and found Holmes much more emotional and social than in the last series, definitely preferred the last series.

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06 Jan 2012, 11:23 am

Asp-Z wrote:

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:

I thought the same thing, but seeing as that's the only major plot hole I picked up on, I was willing to let it pass considering the overall quality of the show.

My quibble with that was in the first episode, "A Study In Pink", he did a similar trick but checked the train times online in a few seconds, on his phone.

Maybe this confirms he is autistic and is a plane nerd but not a trainspotter.

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06 Jan 2012, 1:53 pm

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I really like John Watson too, I dont know how good Watson is in films or books, but they have made him meaty, complex, heroic and much funnier than Sherlock.

Watson in the books is boring. I'm sure a lot of my fellow hardcore fans would want my head on a stake for saying that, but it's true. He's not really meant to be a three dimensional character, just a window into which we view Holmes. When filmmakers use Watson exactly the way he's written, it makes for a boring movie. He needs to be more fleshed out in movies to be interesting.

Some movies handle this well and some don't. I've seen a lot of films in which he just stands around being useless, wondering why he's even there. Some movies, like the 1939-1946 films with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, turn him into a bumbling old fool. It pisses off the purists, but at least he has some personality that way. More recent films have made the relationship between Holmes and Watson more antagonistic, turning them into what's basically a bickering married couple. Purists complain like they always do, but it makes for good drama on the screen.

Martin Freeman is one of the better Watsons I've seen. If I had to make a list of the best, I would choose Nigel Bruce, Ian Hart, Jude Law, and Freeman.

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