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03 Mar 2008, 11:05 pm

I just watched the Two doctors again. and You are right they are different blood lines. they sounded so similar to me that I just assumed they were related. to each other. must have watched it several times without catching that.



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04 Mar 2008, 1:15 am

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Do you like anything from the classic series, ping-machine? Besides that sequence from The Face of Evil? (That was Leela's first appearance)


Oh yeah. Sure. Lots of stuff. (Like everything with K-9 in it he's gotta be the best robot dog ever.)

Just can't particularly remember a lot of it, is all.


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04 Mar 2008, 1:40 am

William Hartnell seems sadly under-represented here so I'll suggest;

His famous Susan Departure speech - and closing the door on her...

Other cool lines in Daleks Invasion Earth - "hmmm - I can see that somethings cooking"

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any scenes where he flubs the line and calls the Fault Locater, the fornicator.

"Susan, go and look at the fornicator"



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04 Mar 2008, 10:30 am

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04 Mar 2008, 5:28 pm

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William Hartnell seems sadly under-represented here so I'll suggest;

His famous Susan Departure speech - and closing the door on her...

Other cool lines in Daleks Invasion Earth - "hmmm - I can see that somethings cooking"

and

any scenes where he flubs the line and calls the Fault Locater, the fornicator.

"Susan, go and look at the fornicator"


I already put his Susan departure speech in.

And then, there's the sequence where he seems to be flubbing his lines about his ring in The Web Planet, with William 'Ian Chesterton' Russel looking meaningfully at Hartnell and the ring, before Hartnell plumps for 'This is not merely a decorative object'. *Facepalm.*


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04 Mar 2008, 7:22 pm

and calling "Mavic Chen" "Magic Chen" :D

A lot of people don't realize that they tried to do those episodes in one take - pretty amazing for a SFX series.



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04 Mar 2008, 7:37 pm

The Sylvester McCoy series of episodes called "happiness patrol" all of it.
Paradise Towers was also a top notch story.


I really don't like the modern Dr Who series much. I watch it mainly because I'm a Dr Who fan. but the whole thing seems
watered down too much and a lot of in your face pro gay crap is in it too. I mean really what people do in their own time
is up to them but don't go shoving it in my face on my favorite show. I really like Capt Jack until they really over did the whole gay thing with him. he was a really intersting character without it now that seems to define him as a character and I think ruins it.



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04 Mar 2008, 8:50 pm

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I really like Capt Jack until they really over did the whole gay thing with him. he was a really intersting character without it now that seems to define him as a character and I think ruins it.


I thought Captain Jack was omni-sexual.

Any gender, any species, anywhere....



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04 Mar 2008, 8:56 pm

Yep, that about sums it up for jack... will sleep with anything any time anywhere. course he isn't the only character doing these sorts of things in the new series just the most obvious one. He gets even worse in Torchwood. I still watch occasionally though. but I am rather disappointed with Torchwood and not just for those reasons either.

I would love to see some of the newer episodes written by some of the old school Dr Who writers they should show the new boys how it's really done.



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04 Mar 2008, 9:57 pm

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Yep, that about sums it up for jack... will sleep with anything any time anywhere. course he isn't the only character doing these sorts of things in the new series just the most obvious one. He gets even worse in Torchwood. I still watch occasionally though. but I am rather disappointed with Torchwood and not just for those reasons either.

I would love to see some of the newer episodes written by some of the old school Dr Who writers they should show the new boys how it's really done.


Actually, Russell T Davies wrote a very dark Doctor Who novel called Damaged Goods. I have read it. The Doctor is tracking down a batch of cocaine infected with an alien entity, but the truth about the entity is actually quite horrifying.

Not only that, but:

*Paul Cornell has written many of the most popular Doctor Who novels of all time, including Human Nature.

*Mark Gatiss has written a number of Who novels, as well as The League of Gentlemen.

*Helen Raynor has written various critically acclaimed Who novels

*Gareth Roberts, etc

Besides, many of the best Who writers like Robert Holmes, Douglas Adams (yes, he wrote for Who), David Whitaker, and Terry Nation are dead.

Authors (who are still alive)from the previous Who series I'd like to see, though:

*Terrance Dicks

*David Fisher

*Phillip Hinchcliffe (he didn't actually write any TV shows, but he produced it for three years, and wrote a few novelisations).

*Marc Platt (Ghost Light, and he wrote the excellent novel Lungbarrow)

*Phillip Martin (is he still alive? He wrote Vengeance on Varos and Mindwarp)

*Andrew Cartmel (didn't write any actual scripts, but was script editor for three years, and wrote some of the novels as well as the darker version of the 7th Doctor)


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04 Mar 2008, 11:29 pm

I wasn't aware Robert Holmes was dead. thats too bad :(. however I really enjoyed Ghost Light and would
love to see someone from the old series do at least one modern episode. I guess I just miss the old flavor.

to me the Real series will be the original series. much like there are trekkies out there that will always love
the original better than the new stuff.



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04 Mar 2008, 11:44 pm

I like both. I just probably feel more excited by the new series than the old one because I burnt myself out on the old series several years before they announced the new series.

Still, I have been rewatching some of the old series stories on DVD. The Pirate Planet was a pleasant surprise. Many of my favourite stories are from Sylvester McCoy's tenure as the Doctor. Actually, until David Tennant came along, I had no firm favourite as the Doctor. It was a tie between Patrick Troughton, Tom Baker, and Sylvester McCoy.

Oh, and there are a few other Who authors that I'd like to see for the new series, the ones who did the New and Missing Adventure novels:

*Andy Lane: All-Consuming Fire has remained one of my all-time favourite books, being a Doctor Who/Sherlock Holmes crossover.

*Lawrence Miles: Alien Bodies and the two-book epic Interference were damn good.

*Kate Orman: Come on, an Aussie author who wrote (often with Jonathan Blum) some of the best Who novels? I really loved Unnatural History.

*Gary Russell: I haven't read The Dark Path, his story telling the origin of the Master, but Dividied Loyalties, which looks into the Doctor's past, as well as the Celestial Toymaker, was very good.

*Mike Tucker and Robert Perry: Illegal Alien was a damned good story about a Cyberman invasion during the Blitz, and apparently was even a potential TV script before the series was cancelled.

*Justin Richards: Very good author who has also written novels for the new series.

*Lance Parkin: The Gallifrey Chronicles and The Dying Days remain very good books.


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04 Mar 2008, 11:47 pm

Betzalel wrote:
I wasn't aware Robert Holmes was dead. thats too bad :(. however I really enjoyed Ghost Light and would
love to see someone from the old series do at least one modern episode. I guess I just miss the old flavor.

to me the Real series will be the original series. much like there are trekkies out there that will always love
the original better than the new stuff.


Holmes died, I think, in 1986, while completing The Ultimate Foe, the last story of The Trial of a Time Lord saga.

My biggest annoyance with the new series is that they've changed the episode length from 25 minutes to 45 minutes. The only 3-parter (equivalent to a 6-parter in the old series) was the whole Master story in series 3. Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords.


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05 Mar 2008, 12:58 am

Argh... Quatermass shame on you...

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*Gary Russell: I haven't read The Dark Path, his story telling the origin of the Master, but Dividied Loyalties, which looks into the Doctor's past, as well as the Celestial Toymaker, was very good.


You have to read the Dark Path ...

It defecates on the recent retelling of his origins - which I wasn't too impressed with.



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05 Mar 2008, 1:32 am

gbollard wrote:
Argh... Quatermass shame on you...

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*Gary Russell: I haven't read The Dark Path, his story telling the origin of the Master, but Dividied Loyalties, which looks into the Doctor's past, as well as the Celestial Toymaker, was very good.


You have to read the Dark Path ...

It defecates on the recent retelling of his origins - which I wasn't too impressed with.


I know what happens, more or less. I thought Koschei, though, was not exactly suave or assured in Divided Loyalties. It was Magnus (aka the War Chief from The War Games) and Ushas (the Rani) who seemed to be the dominant members of the group.

Anyway, I would find it hard to find copies of The Dark Path, even on eBay.


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05 Mar 2008, 6:44 am

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