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The change of ending changed The Comedian quite a bit; I doubt he'd care for all of the deaths (he'd probably like it), rather, he was sobbing in the book because the violent world he loved so much was about to vanish.

I'm a fan of the "psychic monster" version. But then, that'd probably add another hour to the movie.

I dont remember exactly the words the Comedian used while confiding in Moloch - did it say that he hated the death Ozymandias was going to cause? Or was he still upset by the end of war? During that part I was listening specifically to what he said about the island, to figure out how much the ending had changed.

Ive always thought that the Comedian would have had to have felt... diminished next to Ozymandias - because Ozymandias conquered something that the Comedian could only become a sad parody of. He was a witting participant in humanity's self destruction that mocked the unwitting majority... but he could not escape it, and did not (during the time line of the comic) even try to fight it.

He relished in what he knew to be disgusting filth, and yet, someone like him, but better, hatched a plan to end the madness. The fact that it drove him to tears is evidence enough of the remnants of his conscious tearing him to pieces.

I guess I took the above for granted when I watched that scene.

Super-duper spoilers:

It just said that he can't go through with it, letting so many people be killed (he compares it to the atrocities he's committed, but to him, that was just "war", and "this" is something else, and it's "wrong"). He ends it with the, "Forgive me mother," line. Ozy thought he was going to spill his guts to someone in power (Nixon), and that person could stop Ozy, so that's why Ozy killed him.

It changes the fundamental core of The Comedian from the book, and that was a "hero" who relished in the violence of the world, and he added to it in the name of good (the joke). No more war, and The Comedian is nothing (he needed the conflict to justify it to himself).

He appeared to be the biggest threat to Ozy, as The Comedian had the most to lose if Ozy's planned worked. Ror would still be going around killing the scum, John would be in his usual human-cum-god mental crisis, Dan and Silk would probably have always ended up together, and they'd settle down. But The Comedian, he'd be nothing, and with all the guilt hanging over his head.

But as with all master plans, there's always something that wasn't accounted for, and that was how Ozy failed to account for his polar opposite, Ror. The simple and predictable sociopath, turned out to be the most complex and threatening of them all.

They got Ror right completely (Dan, John, Silk I, Silk II, all seemed to be right too), thankfully.

I loved it. Saw it 3 times already. I'm happy with the changes. The reason they changed the ending from the book was it would take too long to explain in a movie. I think the new ending worked better for a movie.

There was some scenes I wished was in, but there is going to be a directors cut DVD thats going to have like 25 minutes put back in.

For those that don't read Shortpacked:

Saw it for the second time tonight. Still enjoyed it.

I'm not fussed about the changed ending, really - in fact in the context of a stand-alone movie, it makes much more sense, because of the earlier subplot about Dr Manhattan being framed for the deaths of several cancer patients. From there it's quite a short leap to "Dr Manhattan is also blamed for the destruction Ozymandias causes".

In any case, all I wanted was for Rorschach to be well-portrayed, and Rorschach was well-portrayed (the guy playing him was pitch-perfect in every way). So I'm happy

I just hope to high heaven that some idiot media executive doesn't look at the box-office takings for this movie (which will hopefully be huge) and demand a Watchmen 2...

Ending was lame. Never even read the comic, and it seems that a lot of the stuff I thought didn't work was changed from the source material.

Rorschach however was a very interesting character, as was Dr. Manhattan and the Comedian, but everyone else seemed pretty flat.

And one more thing.

[lameass-nitpick]Looking downtown over Manhattan: Could see World Trade Center, which automatically triggers search for other features of the cityscape; while mistakes in the Manhattan skyline would be easily overlooked due to the clutter of buildings, however, the inclusion of the Goldman Sachs Tower in Jersey city, which wasn't completed until 2004, was pretty egregious.[/lameass-nitpick]

I have not read the original graphic novel but I did enjoyed the movie. I actually seen the movie twice, because at the first showing my mom had to go to an appointment. The second time around I went to the cinema 30 minutes after the movie started and played Final Fantasy Tactics A2 until the movie reached the climax.

I haven't seen Watchmen yet, but I definitely want to see it as soon as I can. My local cinema is quite slow with picking up the new releases, so I don't think they've started showing it yet. Grr, I'm glad to see that so many people here think that the film's Rorschach is faithful to the comic. I suspect my favourite CGI effect will be the changing symmetrical patterns on Rorschach's mask. By the way, whoever made that awful Watchmen cartoon should be executed for having committed crimes against Alan Moore's masterpiece.

O.K, a few questions...
I am a keen comic book geek, and yet before I saw the adverts for this film, I had never heard of the Watchmen comic, so I was quite surprised to hear that it has such a legendary status. Is it supposed to be to comic books what The Lord of the Rings was to classic literature?

How many people here think that Dr. Manhattan's personality traits make him look autistic or Aspergers? He has an almost complete lack of empathy with anyone, he is not usually particularly emotional, and is extremely intelligent. Or am I just seeing autism where it does not exist?

These days, I find that whenever I see a round, yellow smiley face anywhere, in any context, I really want to paint or draw a couple of red blotches just above one eye. Does anyone else have this desire?