Favorite movie of 2004

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I liked The incredibles and Shrek 2

Aside from the more than preferable inclusion of violence and klling an enemy after he was defeated (another morality crossover), I thought THE INCREDIBLES characters were too artificial compared to other CGI movies like Toy Story, Shrek, Dinosaur, Ice Age, and Finding Nemo to name a few. It wasn't bad, but because of the moral fuzziness, gratiutious villan deaths even when no longer a direct threat, and plasticy looking characters it was not great and certainly not as good as it could have been.

Can I just point out Epimonandas that E102 is only 8 so your discussion of the plot might be a little too much for him- I think we need to have some ages listed in profiles

But he'd seen it. How am I supposed know how old he is and that talking about a movie he'd seen and brought up is worse than seeing it? That's a little confusing.

I'd just like to make two points with you- first I was just explaining why he probably wouldn't want to get into a debate with you about the movie-this was meant in a friendly way hence the

Second- not sure what you mean about talking about that movie is worse than seeing it???

Uh, i didnt know that there were 2 Sunnys!

But I'll have to admit, ASOUE was a great movie. I was laughing so hard with the subtitles that explained what Sunny was saying. NTM that the whole movie was laced with irony. I got into an arguement with a friend of mine over a certain scene, even. Remember that scene where the house belongng to that grammar/safety freak began to fall apart b/c of the tornado? And everything happens to Violet, Klaus, and Sunny that she warned would happen if they did this/that? Where the refrigerator almost falls on them, and the gas line comes loose and ignites the stove, which heats the glass doorknob so that it explodes and glass shards fly evereywhere? My friend said that it shouldn't have happened, that the glass doorknob should have melted instead of shattering. Can anyone who knows their chemistry verify the fact that when glass is heated very quickly, it does shatter?

NTL, it was a great movie. And there's bound to be a sequel, since not all the material in the books was covered in the movie. NTM that they did not discover their parent's secret, although they came close.I'll be keeping an eye out for the sequel!

Archmage

You said you thought discussing the plot might be a little too much for him, which is confusing since he had seen the movie, which would be worse and longer than the few sentences I described about it.
So I was a little perplexed about that comment.

I just doubt that an 8 year old Aspie would understand the concept of 'moral fuzziness'.


Mel (who is sorry she even mentioned it now)

Men seem to like Lost in Translation unequivocally. I thought the acting and writing were good, but I didn't like the movie because as a woman, I was disappointed in its theory of redemption.

I found "Lost in Translation" absolutely awful! I simply can't believe the hype and good reviews it had..... The (supposed) humour in the film consists entirely of "Tee, hee! The Japanese are really funny because they have a different language and culture to us" , and absolutely nothing happens at all for its whole 90 minutes (although it seems to last considerably longer)....... Boredom, thy name is "Lost in Translation".

The only film that came anywhere near it for unfathomably good write-ups last year was "Open Water"....... Film precis: 2 awful cardboard characters bob about in the water silently for 90 minutes, occasionally swapping tedious dialogue, usually bitching about getting bitten by jellyfish, and eventually getting eaten by sharks...... That's it! And everybody but me loved it! Unbelievable.....

Yeah that happens in movies. I have the same feelings about Pulp Fiction, I lost it when Uma drew that stupid square on screen, though I managed to get through the movie, Sixth Sense - extremely boring until the last 10 minutes or so, then mildly amusing, To Die For - could not even get through the first few minutes of that one, Werewolf (hyped by the fact that blockbuster had like 20 copies) - probably the absolute worst film of all time and I could not get through the first 10 minutes because it was just too aweful and I know cheap plastic halloween masks that look better than the creature not to mention spec effects from nearly a century ago were also better, Titanic - decent, but boring and slow for the first 2 hours, not nearly equal to the hype, Fight Club - tacky, crappy story, and virtually pointless, also did not live up to the hype, Scary Movie - not even a fraction as entertaining as In Living Color was, I think they seem to have lost their humor ability for this series, totally lame, not funny in the least, and just plain stupid. I don't know how they could think that crap was funny. The first two Austin Powers films - while not as bad as Scary Movie were not up to specs either. Incredibles - decent, but not upto the level the hype made it out to be. I think maybe 2/3s to 3/4 or more of the movies I see every year fall short of the hype. Same for this year, I just can't think of any names at the moment as less the decent movies are forgettable.

WHAT? I think "Fight Club" was one of the all-time greats of our time - the fact that so many people hated it and simply "didn't get it" (as you didn't by the looks of it ) merely reinforces this fact. I fully believe that in 20 years time it will be revered on the same level as "The Godfather" or "Casablanca" etc. And "The Incredibles" was an absolute classic - it works so perfectly on so many different levels, and was the best film of 2004 certainly, and certainly up to the hype.

The "Austin Powers" films obeyed a very strict inverse square law: The first film was sort of OK with a few good moments, the second was unutterably dire with one kinda OK moment, and the third was the most lamentable, turgid, soul-crushing waste of 2 hours of my existence I've ever been unfortunate enough to endure......

And I think you're being rather overly kind to "Titanic" (utter garbage) and "Sixth Sense" (so, so boring....)

I like Fight Club, but I'm not fond of the end. It doesn't make much sense to me (SPOILERS: how Edward Norton's character 'gets rid' of Brad Pitt's character) and was rather disappointing. I loved the beginning and middle though. It's hilarious how he goes to all the support groups to make him feel better about himself.

I liked The Incredibles a lot, but it wasn't as good as both of the Shrek movies.

YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE CREDITS?! Naughty, naughty!

Yes, Sunny Baudelaire was played by two identical twin toddlers, Kara and Shelby Hoffman. The reason for this is that there are very strict child labor laws in the USA, so just having one baby do all those things in the movie would be overworking it. In the sequel, they will have to be careful, because in The Ersatz Elevator, Sunny climbs up an elevator shaft with her teeth. For most of the Reptile Room segment, they had Shelby preform because Kara is afraid of snakes. (I research these kinds of things! Tee hee!)



They are making a sequel. The sequel will probably cover The Miserable Mill, The Austere Academy(one of my favorites),and The Ersatz Elevator. They have not finished casting, however.

One of my favorite characters, Esmé Squalor, will appear in the next film. She is an evil woman who is only concerned about what is "in" and I can do wicked impersonations of her. I know who should play as her:
Catherine Zeta-Jones! OH MY GOSH!! She is so perfect for that role it's crazy!

Christopher Grills (Tee hee!)

Not entirely true. I did get it. He went insane in the same way Hyde divided from Jeckyll because he took too much crap from the scum around him and bottled up his anger and feelings until his split personality emerged and wanted to carry the same freedom of letting go of aggression to the world and thus formed a group to do it. I liked the part about forming a secert empire, but not the punishments involved, that is too extreme and gross. What became hard to defend and ultimately loosen what could have been a strong interest in the film was the utter brutality and reckless violence shown, and also the human body fat to make soap was sick. I had a hard time with the wierd guy fraternity thing too. I like the overall point and underlying general story, I just think it could and should have been presented better. Its not that I mind violence, there just seemed to be no point to it. If they wanted to present the feeling of releasing aggression one scene would have sufficed to show that and then some quick glaring references to the contintuation of it, but to continue that style of violence without some sense of direction seemed pointless. Was there to be an ultimate champion? Would they pick people they had grudges against? I saw the rules, would that mean one would only have to fight once? They could have explored these rules a little more thoroughly to like showing one breaking them and maybe being kicked out or something. It just did not seem like there was a goal in the fights themselves other than just to fight, but as I said, this did not have to be consistantly repeated in the film, repitition is boring.

I personally loved the soap bit - I think the whole point of the movie was to completely overwhelm and screen out the "passive" or "non-committed" viewer with completely gross, over the top imagery and leave the rest of the film there for the rest of us to delve into and enjoy. I know most people who saw it just went "Ooooh - that's horrible!" and didn'tget anything else out of it. Whatever, I thought it was, bar "The Usual Suspects" probably the best film of the last 20 years.