LOST in an alternate Aspieverse

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I just watched the most recent episode of LOST online ("Happily Ever After"), and not only am I again reminded of why I LOVE this show - this episode in particular echoed certain milestone events on my own life so much so that it got me thinking: maybe we weren't born onto the wrong planet - perhaps this is the right planet, but we're on it in the wrong multiverse. Right world, wrong life.

Perhaps there's a doppleganger or three or a thousand of each one of us, living on this same world, under completely different sets of circumstances...and some of them are perfect for us...

It just makes so much sense to me...

Hope I don't meet my double knowing me/him we'd battle to the death exclaiming "There can be only one!".

No, I'm talking parallel universes - you'd never actually meet the other 'yous'...they'd be living on (nearly) identical Earths, where there would be variant differences in culture (where being an Aspie might be valued, even highly respected), alternate versions of historical events, and so on...they might have your name and your face, but they'd have grown up in different families, gone to different schools, lived in different places...and along the way, they'd likely encounter some of the same people, but have completely different relationships with them...

and lots of those "Don't I know you from somewhere?" moments...


I've had a lot of those...probably why this theory interests me...


but its probably just the fallout from poor face recognition...


Similar ideas were explored in Butterfly Effect and even the show Sliders, but it's still an intriguing concept...

It's interesting for sure. It reminds me of one of my favourite books: One by Richard Bach. Introduced me to the idea of parallel universes.

On the topic of LOST, I'm loving this final season so far. Can't wait to see where it goes. I even love the fact that even though they're supposed to be explaining some of the mysteries they've presented over the last six years, so far they've mostly just given us more mysteries. It just wouldn't be LOST if they actually started explaining things.

The first Star Trek did that, where Kirk was somehow switched with the Kirk in the other universe, where the Enterprise was evil. Spock of course was evil, but still logical enough to know that they needed their evil captain back so rather than killing him, he figured out what happened and found a way to switch them back. It was one of my favorites.

Well, they have to save the big reveals for the actual finale - if they tell too much on the way to the end, the end will just be anticlimactic. I was getting a little concerned with Jacob's wine bottle analogy that they were going to veer off into mysticism and religious analogy - end the whole thing as a long bogey-man story, which would have really pissed me off. But Desmond dimension-hopping in the Jurassic Park Electromagnet Box reassures me that it's all going to remain grounded in Science Fiction after all. The blending of the two was what hooked me on the show to begin with. People abducted by a smoke monster that makes a sound like the chirping of insects mixed with ratcheting chains...hmmm...what the Hell is that noise?

MommyJones: Nobody has ever rocked a more badass goatee than Leonard Nimoy. Evil Spock was too f**kin' cool!

^I have no idea what that noise is but it's kind of awesome.

I'm also glad that the latest episode seemed to bring it back to science fiction, I was afraid that it was actually going to be that they're in hell or purgatory, or something ridiculous like that. Although I guess they could technically still do that since it's only the flash-sideways that is a parallel universe. We still don't know much about the island, except what was presented in the episode with the wine/bottle/cork metaphor.

Yeah, I was getting concerned with all that nonsense - but they really can't do the "Oh, they're all dead and this is Hell" scenario now, though that was big fan speculation in the first season - since the Oceanic 6 have been back in the real world for three years, that theory is pretty much blown now, thank goodness.

I don't mind the good versus evil stuff, all adventure fiction ultimately boils down to that anyway. I don't care if the MIB does turn out to be the embodiment of evil in the universe, ie, the Devil - as long as they make it plausible and don't rely on theological fairy tales to explain it. I like my Evil to be REAL. It ain't a threat if it couldn't actually happen. Even time travel may be fantastic, but the concept and the theories are based on real science.



This last episode though, is hinting at what I've been expecting since the season started - that the LAX parallel universe is going to have to be merged with the original timeline, but I can't guess how the writers are going to do that, since the LAX world is in 2004 at the time of the original 815 crash, and the story on the Island is taking place in the present.

From remarks that Whidmore and his team as well as Eloise Hawking have made several times, though like: "that's not supposed to happen until tomorrow" it seems clear that this "war" has been fought over and over again with only slight variations each time, but ultimately the same result - so far - MIB has always LOST and remained confined to the Island.

If he ever escapes, all of humanity is LOST...



But wait...in the first episode of the season we saw the Island (in LAX time) on the bottom of the ocean, destroyed by the hydrogen bomb blast...which would mean...MIB has already escaped...

CUT TO BLACK: LOGO

CUE THEME MUSIC

ROLL END CREDITS




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"BAD WOBOT!"

Is it though? I guess it must be, but I missed a time jump somewhere. I don't remember how Sun and Jin got on the same timeline again. This show's time travel is even more confusing than Primer.


I'm not sure what I think about MIB being the actual devil, but I do know that I like him a lot more when he doesn't look like Locke. I obviously know why they did that, but now that we know it's not Locke I wish they could just get rid of him and let him be dead. I know they can't, but I just think that the other actor is a better fit as MIB.

As for MIB being "out" in the flash-sideways world, that's what I thought too once I realised that the island would no longer exist in that world. But even more than knowing what that would mean, I want to know what's up with Eloise in that world. She knows everything obviously, but I want to know why. I want to know who she is in the grand scheme of everything.


I forgot about bad robot. I don't usually watch it on tv so for me it ends right at the LOST logo.

I would love it and crap myself if they ended the lost series with this scene.
Minus all the extra mumbling.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2M_XJbzUeQ[/youtube]

MommyJones:[/b] Nobody has ever rocked a more badass goatee than Leonard Nimoy. Evil Spock was too f**kin' cool! [/quote]

No s**t

Apparently when the bomb was detonated, everybody reverted to whatever time they were in before the jumping started, so all the 815ers are now back in the present, just a few days (or a week or so) after the Guam flight. Widmore's sub must have left for the Island about the same time the Oceanic 6 got on the flight to Guam, synchronizing his schedule with Eloise's efforts to get the whole O6 group headed back there as well.



Yeah, the MIB actor seems more wiley, slick and cunning, though Locke as MIB is pretty vicious and cold-blooded. Although they haven't ever really explained it that I've noticed, MIB seems to be stuck in Locke's form because that's what he was wearing when Jacob was killed and they have some yin/yang symbiotic relationship.

Its very curious. I'm rewatching all the previous seasons on DvD for the third time now, and having seen where the last season is going, there are clues I never noticed before that have me as intrigued as ever. I've decided these writers do nothing by accident (except maybe having Locke inviting an unseen phone operator named Helen on his Walkabout in S1 and reintroducing Helen at a group therapy session in S2 as Katey Sagal - oops). But then, they've used the name Emily for two different characters, so who knows...

Anyway, I noticed something puzzling in the pilot: The morning after the survivors' first encounter with Smokey, Kate is walking along the beach as a group of excited people chatter about the Smoke Monster behind her. Rose's voice clearly says above the din: "It sounded like some sort of monkey" - just then, Kate looks out toward the ocean to see John Locke (whom she has not yet met) eating a piece of fruit. He turns, sees her and gives a mischievous grin, with a piece of orange-colored fruit rind between his lips and gums, looking oddly like an Orangutan. That can't have been anything but intentional, but what does it mean?

It certainly does seem as though Locke's character has shown signs of duplicity and evil intent from day one. Of course, now we know MIB has been manipulating them all from the beginning, especially "The Island will tell me what to do" Locke. And if Christian Shepard's appearances on the Island have been MIB all along (now we know why Christian was with Clair in the cabin and why she's now insane), does that mean every vision or hallucination every character has had was MIB as well? Hurley's invisible friend Dave from the Mental Institution actually tried to talk him into leaping from a cliff. Hmmm...MIB trying to start killing off the Candidates early?



Eloise reminds me of Mrs. Whatsit from A Wrinkle in Time (my most favoritest childhood book ever) I think that was intentional casting...

But yes, we still don't know who all those 'indigenous hostiles' were that Richard and Ben have been leading around the Island for years and years. They stole military uniforms from the same US soldiers they killed to get the Fat Boy bomb, but they weren't really a military unit themselves. And they seem to revere supposed 'good guy' Jacob, but they and Ben expected Locke to murder his father in cold blood, so their moral standards aren't exactly pure as the driven snow. Then, neither are Jacob's if he continues to bring people to the Island just to prove a point to MIB, knowing that they will all die as a result. Of course, it seems to me that Rose and Bernard have already proven MIB wrong in his claim that all humans succumb to corruption and violence in the end. They've completely opted out of all the conflict.

Are they the male and female skeletons in the caves*? Or are we going to be told that those two people actually are Adam and Eve? I hope not.

And why the hell aren't Walt and Aaron on the Island? Didn't Ben and Eloise both tell Lock everybody had to go back? Gods know The Others sure were interested in Walt and his special bird-killing talents in S2. If Aaron wasn't important, MIB wouldn't have made a special point of mentioning that both himself and Aaron had mothers who were crazy. If the blonde kid in the jungle is Aaron, how did he get there? The Final Season DvD set better have a 6 hour feature documentary just to explain all the mysteries they can't clear up in the next six episodes...



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Hugo did say to Jack not long ago: "Hey, wouldn't it be awesome if they were us?"

I haven't any watched past episodes since they originally aired so over six years I've forgotten lots of things. It's interesting hearing what sorts of hints and clues there are to indicate that maybe the writers actually knew what they were doing all along. Strangely it was my brother, who doesn't even watch LOST, who reminded me of the skeletons and that it was likely that they were Bernard and Rose. Even little things like that, it will be interesting to go back and watch all the seasons again once it's all over. I often wonder if I should have been on LOST message boards throughout the show's run to see what other people were connecting together that I had forgotten about completely. No one in my life has ever seen an episode so I've been relying solely on my shoddy memory to grasp the insane plot of this show. It's been fun though, I've enjoyed it.

The entire series up to now is available free on the ABC website:

LOST online <link


Each week ABC airs the latest episode on Tuesday night, then immediately after it ends, they post the episode online. Not as convenient or hi-quality as a Dvd, but it's free. I don't have cable and can't get the local ABC affiliate where I live, so the only way I'm seeing the final season is to watch it online.

US stations don't let non-Americans watch their shows online. Which sucks as a Canadian because we have their channels on our televisions so why can't we watch the shows from the site as well? Makes no sense. Although our channel broadcasts LOST an hour before ABC (two hours this week) so there is some small justice in the world.

I'll eventually buy the dvds and watch all six seasons in one sitting (or maybe a few lol). I figure at this point I'll just wait until the box set of all of them comes out.

That does suck and I really don't see the point in it - the products advertised in the breaks online are available in Canada, too. Duh.

Yeah, I'm gona be downright PO'd when the entire series comes out in one set and includes all the 'enhanced' trivia popups as a feature on the DvD menu, after I bought them all as soon as they were released the first time around.