I'm losing sleep over this (Star Trek issue)

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23 Sep 2010, 8:38 pm

Don't get me wrong, I love Star Trek; in fact it's probably my favorite TV show of all time. But there are some things that really bother me. There's one particular one I'm thinking about right now: Why don't the brigs on Federation starships have toilets? Secondly, if they did, would they still have the see-through force-field, so that the guards can watch the prisoners as they're taking a dump? I don't get it.

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23 Sep 2010, 8:57 pm

There is one episode in The Next Generation (plot is about an alien soldier who was programmed to be the best possible fighter) where the soldier is in the Enterprise's brig and he hits a button and it pulls away to reveal a sink. I just assume the toilet works the same way. I base this assumption on Star Trek V when Kirk was in the brig and he hits a button to reveal the toilet concealed in the wall. As for the visibility, I guess it is like jails of our time when prisoners aren't granted privacy for various reasons.

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23 Sep 2010, 9:04 pm

What I don't get about things like startrek and stargate (SG-1 was the best) is why are the bridges always at the front or the top of the ship so it's in open sight of weapons? It would be more protective to have the command room in the centre of the ship so that it is shielded and so its closer to systems located all across the ship instead of there being a chance that the one vital part they need to get to is on the opposit side of the ship.

If they can get a ship in space I am sure they can get cameras and other sensors to see what is going on out side.

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23 Sep 2010, 10:23 pm

Pinpoint transporter usage, beaming waste directly out of the prisoner's colon.

No, I don't know why they're stupid enough to put the bridge out where it can be shot right off in the first major combat...

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24 Sep 2010, 6:58 am

1. Brigs in TOS didn't address this issue. Fair to say brigs got very little use in all of Trek shows/movies. As of TNG, they did cover details like that.

2. I suppose because the bridge (as well as the whole ship) is protected by force fields, position of the bridge makes little sense. Once shields are down, the hull itself isn't able to offer that much more protection. It is noteworthy that in TOS, there were two bridges (never saw the second one used) and in TNG there was the "battle bridge" that while usable for separating the saucer section, it could also serve as a redundant bridge if the primary bridge was compromised.

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29 Sep 2010, 2:19 pm

They could just use the transporter to get rid of "it".

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29 Sep 2010, 5:18 pm

Ichinin wrote:

They could just use the transporter to get rid of "it".

Hold P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y still.... :lol:

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29 Sep 2010, 5:53 pm

They used the retractable toilet in Red Dwarf, only it was voice activated (and had a sign saying "Now please, irradiate your hands"). So when Lister was refuting Holly's argument with a precision strike of the word 'crap', have a guess what happened?

Lister: Not you!

Toilet: I'm very sorry, I wasn't paying attention. See you later...

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04 Oct 2010, 9:25 pm

PatrickNeville wrote:

I wondered about that myself. The idea, I think, was to copy naval ships where the bridge is a windowed area at the highpoint of the ship.

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04 Oct 2010, 9:48 pm

Quatermass wrote:

I aways remember Talky Toaster the most, it had more lines then the toilet :lol:

Quote:

Talkie Toaster: Very well. I have a third question. A sensible question. A question that will tax your new I.Q. to its very limits and stretch the sinews of you knowledge to bursting point.
Holly: This is going to be about waffles, isn't it?
Talkie Toaster: Certainly not. And I resent the implication that I'm a one-dimensional, bread-obsessed electrical appliance.
Holly: I apologise, toaster. What's the question?
Talkie Toaster: The question is this: Given that God is infinite, and that the universe is also infinite... would you like a toasted teacake?
Holly: That's another bready question.
Talkie Toaster: It's not just bready. It's quite curranty, too.

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