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07 Jun 2011, 5:54 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UCDzvdmmDc[/youtube]

As a Robert E. Howard fan, I hope this is good...

So, anybody else looking forward to this?


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07 Jun 2011, 5:59 pm

You would have to drug me and drag my body to get me into a theatre showing a film directed by Marcus Nispel.



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07 Jun 2011, 6:02 pm

I don't know how to say this.....but can a movie have too much of a budget? xD


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07 Jun 2011, 6:06 pm

I was a fan of the Marvel comic books, from that perspective I think this will be a good flick. Maybe not so much for someone who's original exposure to the character was Howard's books.



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07 Jun 2011, 6:07 pm

Infoseeker wrote:
I don't know how to say this.....but can a movie have too much of a budget? xD


Yes, it can. When you have too much money, you get lazy. "We'll fix it in post" becomes a motto. You get movies with budgets of $200 million and the special effects look worse than the effects in a similar movie that cost $30 million. Of course, money doesn't matter in a movie like this. It was a lost cause the moment they made their choice in director.



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07 Jun 2011, 6:09 pm

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I don't know how to say this.....but can a movie have too much of a budget? xD


Having seen (new!)Star Wars and Lord of The Rings, the answer is yes, obviously... :P


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07 Jun 2011, 6:22 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
Infoseeker wrote:
I don't know how to say this.....but can a movie have too much of a budget? xD


Having seen (new!)Star Wars and Lord of The Rings, the answer is yes, obviously... :P


I'd say the problem with the Star Wars prequels was the utter incompetence of George Lucas's writing and his actors, not the budget. As for The Lord of the Rings, I'd say the problem was a studio willing to let their director be as self indulgent as he wanted to be. Of course, that's related to the budget, but they could have told him to do a little editing. The ending of The Return of the King is one of the most unbearable things I've ever suffered through.



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07 Jun 2011, 6:29 pm

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I was a fan of the Marvel comic books, from that perspective I think this will be a good flick. Maybe not so much for someone who's original exposure to the character was Howard's books.


Oh, I like the comics too. The truth is, most of Howard's short stories don't really lend themselves to movies... The God in The Bowl and Tower of The Elephant are great Conan stories, but they wouldn't be good movies.

I would like to see The Scarlet Citadel as a movie, but we'll have to wait for Conan to seize the throne of Aquilonia first, and Howard didn't write that story... :wink:

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07 Jun 2011, 6:32 pm

Jory wrote:
Infoseeker wrote:
I don't know how to say this.....but can a movie have too much of a budget? xD


Yes, it can. When you have too much money, you get lazy. "We'll fix it in post" becomes a motto. You get movies with budgets of $200 million and the special effects look worse than the effects in a similar movie that cost $30 million. Of course, money doesn't matter in a movie like this. It was a lost cause the moment they made their choice in director.


I've only seen Pathfinder of Marcus Nispel's films and that was movie with alot of superfiscial stuff, but in his defence very nice visuals. Plot, acting, logic in story all sucked - no depth :evil:.

Is this the same in all his movies?


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07 Jun 2011, 6:39 pm

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I'd say the problem with the Star Wars prequels was the utter incompetence of George Lucas's writing and his actors, not the budget.


Jar Jar Binkses are not free.


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07 Jun 2011, 7:07 pm

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I've only seen Pathfinder of Marcus Nispel's films and that was movie with alot of superfiscial stuff, but in his defence very nice visuals. Plot, acting, logic in story all sucked - no depth Evil or Very Mad.

Is this the same in all his movies?


Pathfinder looks lovely, I'll give it that. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Friday the 13th also look good, but it's a disadvantage in those films. They look dirty and filthy like a horror movie should, but it's painfully artificial at all times, the movie equivalent of someone wearing pre-faded jeans or t-shirts. Instead of being genuinely dirty and filthy, it's millions of dollars trying way too hard to look dirty and filthy. And yes, the plot, acting, and writing are miserable in all of his films.

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Jar Jar Binkses are not free.


Like I said, it's related to the budget, since he had the money to put Jar Jar on the screen, but the bigger problem is that he wrote that character in the first place and nobody around him told him what a bad idea it was, and the budget has nothing to do with the awful acting and writing.



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07 Jun 2011, 9:09 pm

I'm a big fan of Howard, been reading him for 45 years, along with others like Lin Carter, L Sprague de Camp, and Robert Jordan, who have carried on the story. Movies rarely compare. Certainly the ones that starred the Governator were not impressive.



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07 Jun 2011, 11:41 pm

As a life long Robert E. Howard fan, I'm waiting as anxiously for this movie as I had when I was a kid, waiting for Arnold's flick (I like to remember the sequel as apocryphal). Granted, my favorite Howard character is the Pictish king Bran Mak Morn, but I'm still a huge Conan fan. I think I've probably read all of Howard's original Conan stories, and I've been devoted to the Conan comics, from their Marvel days, to the new Black Horse Conan comics.

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08 Jun 2011, 4:18 am

Seeing Jason Momna in Game of Thrones I know He will make a great Conan.



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08 Jun 2011, 4:50 am

oh wow, I so want to this that! It looks fantastic!

however I shall have to get a new bf by the time it comes out as it looks like the kind of film I will need someones hand to grip in.



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08 Jun 2011, 4:54 am

I thought this was about COCO.