Which Star Trek series is closest to the real-life?

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10 Dec 2011, 12:26 pm

I mean that is most similar to a normal life in aspect it the feasibility of in near or distant future,



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10 Dec 2011, 12:30 pm

The current reboot - the events depicted on Earth at the beginning of the movie were the most believable ... kid steals car ... police give chase ... kid gets caught. Even the debarkation scene was realistic enough - I've been through a few of those in the real military.


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10 Dec 2011, 12:49 pm

In my opinion, Star Trek: Enterprise was the most realistic .



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10 Dec 2011, 3:32 pm

Yeah, I agree with pawelk. To me it felt the most similar to real life... which is kind of where Enterprise lacked in appeal to me. When I watched Next Generation and Deep Space 9, paert of the charm was that you'd see this blatantly noble, idealistic crew (even if there were characters with rough edges, like Worf and Kyra). And you'd see this idealised world and technology with the replicators, holodecks etc. ... Episodes tended to have relatively happy endings with a big fat (though often clever) moral. It was more like a dream or a fantasy of what mankind could be.

All of this felt a little bit less bright and shiny in Enterprise, but I understand that much of this owes to Enterprise having been created in the post 9/11 mindset of science fiction. Most sci-fi shows in the last 10 years present worlds that are a bit more pessimistic, with unforgiving, deadlier antagonists, and an idealism that -if at all present- is put into perspective with greyer shades of morality.


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10 Dec 2011, 6:15 pm

^^^I think your memory of DS9 is a bit too rosy.

I loved DS9 because it was a world populated by unrepentant terrorists, religious zealots, and greedy shop keepers. People still worried about money and, far from noble, the characters were motivated by things like wounded pride.

Settings aside, DS9 had the most realistic, most human characters and stories.

...that's my take, anyway.


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10 Dec 2011, 7:42 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
In my opinion, was the most realistic Star Trek: Enterprise.


I agree. Half the stuff on the ship didn't work.

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10 Dec 2011, 10:40 pm

Star Trek: Enterprise


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11 Dec 2011, 5:59 am

GoonSquad wrote:
^^^I think your memory of DS9 is a bit too rosy.

I loved DS9 because it was a world populated by unrepentant terrorists, religious zealots, and greedy shop keepers. People still worried about money and, far from noble, the characters were motivated by things like wounded pride.

Settings aside, DS9 had the most realistic, most human characters and stories.

...that's my take, anyway.


unrepentant terrorists???

If you mean Bajorans you are great mistake, why you call them terrorist, In my opinion, they were patriots fighting for their country (planet), is that they used irregular warfare due Cardassian outnumber them,.



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11 Dec 2011, 4:28 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
^^^I think your memory of DS9 is a bit too rosy.

I loved DS9 because it was a world populated by unrepentant terrorists, religious zealots, and greedy shop keepers. People still worried about money and, far from noble, the characters were motivated by things like wounded pride.

Settings aside, DS9 had the most realistic, most human characters and stories.

...that's my take, anyway.


unrepentant terrorists???

If you mean Bajorans you are great mistake, why you call them terrorist, In my opinion, they were patriots fighting for their country (planet), is that they used irregular warfare due Cardassian outnumber them,.


One thing that makes the show so realistic is the portrayal of the Bajorians. They were patriots AND/OR terrorists. Which, depends solely on one's point of view.

That's why the show is so good.


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11 Dec 2011, 6:25 pm

The original series, many of the futuristic devices depicted in those episodes are reality today, just 45 years later.



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11 Dec 2011, 6:26 pm

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The original series, many of the futuristic devices depicted in those episodes are reality today, just 45 years later.


I am still waiting for warp drive and the matter teleporter.

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11 Dec 2011, 6:49 pm

ruveyn wrote:
shrox wrote:
The original series, many of the futuristic devices depicted in those episodes are reality today, just 45 years later.


I am still waiting for warp drive and the matter teleporter.

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Did you try Sharper Image or SkyMall?



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11 Dec 2011, 7:58 pm

ruveyn wrote:
shrox wrote:
The original series, many of the futuristic devices depicted in those episodes are reality today, just 45 years later.


I am still waiting for warp drive and the matter teleporter.

ruveyn


Alcubierre drive


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12 Dec 2011, 1:35 am

ruveyn wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
In my opinion, was the most realistic Star Trek: Enterprise.


I agree. Half the stuff on the ship didn't work.

ruveyn


I agree too.

Also, the the current "reboot" is an ABOMINATION and should not exist.
J. J. Abrams needs to be publicly beaten and humiliated for producing such blasphemy.


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12 Dec 2011, 9:54 am

pete1061 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
In my opinion, was the most realistic Star Trek: Enterprise.


I agree. Half the stuff on the ship didn't work.

ruveyn


I agree too.

Also, the the current "reboot" is an ABOMINATION and should not exist.
J. J. Abrams needs to be publicly beaten and humiliated for producing such blasphemy.


I have to agree with you but maybe Capitan Picard will be back in time and fix all the mess:-)
I also hope Q will change the director of this movie into amoeba ;-)

Although thanks to this film, has renewed my fascination for Star Trek.
My adventure with the series begun with watching Star Trek: The Next Generation when I was maybe 8 years old, then I did not understand much of Star Trek, but I loved it, I built up together with a friend miniature spaceship bridge because I wanted to be like the captain Picard :-).

After watching the last movie I decided to watch all the Star Trek and I have to admit that they were much better, the most annoying was that the last movie, totally smashed the time line. I hope that Captain Picard back in time and kick the director in a certain place :-)



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12 Dec 2011, 11:58 am

Star Trek: First Contact

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LILY: Come on.
COCHRANE: Good night Eddie. (to Lily) ...Go home.
LILY: You're gonna regret this tomorrow.
COCHRANE: Well, what I think you should have learned about me by now is that I don't have regrets. ...Come on, Lily, one more round.
LILY: Z, you've had enough. I'm not going up in that thing with a drunken pilot.
COCHRANE: But I sure as hell's not going up there sober.

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PICARD: Report.
RIKER: Shields are down. Long-range sensors are off-line. Main power's holding
DATA: According to our astrometric readings we're in the mid twenty-first century. From the radioactive isotopes in the atmosphere I would estimate we have arrived approximately ten years after the Third World War.
RIKER: Makes sense. Most of the major cities have been destroyed. There are few governments left. Six hundred million dead. No resistance.

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PICARD: Isn't it amazing? This ship used to be a nuclear missile.
DATA: It is an historical irony that Doctor Cochrane would use an instrument of mass-destruction to inaugurate an era of peace.
(Picard feels the Titan V rocket)
PICARD: It's a boyhood fantasy, Data. I must have seen this ship hundreds of times in the Smithsonian, but I was never able to touch it.
DATA: Sir, does tactile contact alter your perception of the Phoenix?
PICARD: Oh, yes. For humans, touch can connect you to an object in a very personal way. It makes it seem more real.
DATA: I am detecting imperfections in the titanium casing. Temperature variations in the fuel manifold. It's no more real to me now than it was a moment ago.

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RIKER: Deanna! ...Deanna! Deanna!
(Riker rips out the power lead silencing the music)
TROI: No! No, don't turn it off that...
COCHRANE: Who is this jerk? ...And who told him he could turn off my music?
TROI: Will Riker. ...Zefram Cochrane.
COCHRANE: Is he a friend of yours?
TROI: Yes.
COCHRANE: Husband?
TROI: No.
COCHRANE: Good! ...Now this, Deena...
TROI: Deanna.
COCHRANE: This ...is the good stuff.
RIKER: Doctor Cochrane...
COCHRANE: To the Phoenix. ...May she rest in peace.

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COCHRANE: Let me make sure that I understand you correctly, ...Commander. A group of cybernetic creatures from the future have travelled back through time to enslave the human race, and you're here to stop them.
RIKER: That's right.
COCHRANE: Hot damn, you're heroic. Ha, ha, ha.

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LILY: What is this?
PICARD: Australia, New Guinea, The Solomons. Montana will be up soon but you may want to hold your breath. It's a long way down. ...Now listen to me. I'm not your enemy and I can get you home. First you must put that weapon down and trust me. ...Jean-Luc Picard, my name. That's my name. What's yours?
LILY: Lily.
PICARD: Welcome aboard, Lily.
(she gives him the phaser)
PICARD: Thank you. ...Maximum setting. If you'd fired this you would have vaporised me.
LILY: It's my first ray gun.

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and so forth. :)