My favorite sci-fi character who actually helped me survive.

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01 Sep 2012, 3:44 am

This guy

Imagine a cross between Mr. Spock and the Terminator.

Basically he was dead, and for the most part, lacking involvment and emotional investment in everything, while still maintaining discernment and coming out on the side of good.

It was actually helpful to watch Kai's responses to things, and it was somewhat good for me to see a persona that was for all purposes like a rock. So watching this character was helpful for me.
Even now I find myself replying to things starting with "perhaps....".

I have the entire series from the first movies to the last episode. :)



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01 Sep 2012, 6:17 am

Yeah, he(Spock) gave me structure, peace of mind, something to focus on and in general purpose in life. That there will be a group and they need that sort of character to fit in. That would be me. If I am not accepted, I move on till I slot right in :)



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01 Sep 2012, 9:40 am

I know what you mean (re: Kai).

I had been teased about being 7 of 9ish (in a NOT nice way). But then I came to admire 7 of 9. I watched her as a broken borg transformed into a livable being with valuable traits. Stalk, Spock is the quintessential Aspie, yes? :) I like Spock too.


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01 Sep 2012, 1:02 pm

Roy Batty from Bladerunner.
Even though ultimately he was doomed, he never stopped fighting. And the truth was, despite the fact that Batty is always described as the sympathetic villain, the truth is, I had never seen him as the bad guy. He was a social pariah turned rebel, and I really have been able to identify with that.

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01 Sep 2012, 1:10 pm

I'd like to second Roy Batty. The "Nexus 6" model of replicant has always had a Aspie vibe for me. Particularly the way they are slowly developing their own emotional responses, despite their alleged lack of humanity.



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01 Sep 2012, 1:21 pm

I wonder sometimes if Spock was so loved as a movie character because of the logic.

Pure logical thinking can slough off emotional baggage, but then we see a dark side of this endeavor in a move like Equilibrium.



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01 Sep 2012, 4:11 pm

pop_culture_ref wrote:
I'd like to second Roy Batty. The "Nexus 6" model of replicant has always had a Aspie vibe for me. Particularly the way they are slowly developing their own emotional responses, despite their alleged lack of humanity.


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02 Sep 2012, 10:02 pm

The Terminator did learn emotional responses in the second installment but it always struck me as how mechanical it was. This appealed to me, because when I would try this in the real world, I found it worked.

What I liked about Kai was that there was a finality to his predicament: he was dead, and nothing was going to change that. He "had no future" in his opinion. This too was appealing to me (not in an Emo sense).

Basically, and what I didn't know at the time, was that "dead" was for me a disconnect from the situation. Death is the outcome of everything we do, and nothing to stop that. That's life. Ironically. So what was the sense in "owning" the weight of every situation, and having emotional investment in the outcome? I have been in some hairy situations and ended up being the one that did not break or freak out.

I think that there are ways to train responses through fictional characters to some extent, like reshaping nueral pathways through rote. How far that can go is anybody's guess. Some who have killed claimed they played too much GTA or FPS games, but defense lawyers will try anything.


Another great moment for me was in 2010 when they explained to HAL what the sitaution was (that they were trying to hide from him) and how the end result will be the destruction of the Discovery. There was that pause that seemed to last forever, and then HAL Said "I understand now". And this was after HAL was previously quite literal in his reaction of having to lie to his crew about the true nature of the mission.



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03 Sep 2012, 3:03 pm

Data from Star Trek TNG. An emotional outsider always looking in. What I find inspiring is that he knows he may never be like the others, but he never stops trying. Its not always the destination, but the journey.



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03 Sep 2012, 3:15 pm

Welcome to Wrong Planet DATA! :)



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03 Sep 2012, 11:17 pm

No doubt about it,Spock.But it wasn't a good idea to wear my Star Trek shirt to school,that DID NOT help me to survive,quite the opposite.



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03 Sep 2012, 11:29 pm

-Data from ST:TNG
- Spock from the original Star Trek
- The Doctor from Doctor Who
- The Doctor from Star Trek Voyager
- Yoda from Star Wars
- David from Prometheus
- Bishop from Aliens

I like and relate to these characters



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04 Sep 2012, 7:48 pm

Misslizard wrote:
No doubt about it,Spock.But it wasn't a good idea to wear my Star Trek shirt to school,that DID NOT help me to survive,quite the opposite.



I got lucky on that one. Back in what I recall was first grade, the most popular kid in the class (as much as that could be the case at that age) has the "Kirk color" ST shirt, and I happened to have the Spock shirt.

(gee, what a coincidence)


He had light colored hair and as shorter than me, and I have dark hair. Must have been amusing to the adults.

I remember those were pretty good shirts actually.



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10 Sep 2012, 9:47 pm

Thank you, Stalk.