Finding Nemo has a Scientific Fatal Flaw!

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23 Oct 2012, 5:42 pm

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Clownfish are sequential hermaphrodites,
meaning that they develop into males first, and
when they mature, they become females. If the
female clownfish is removed from the group,
such as by death, one of the largest and most
dominant males will become a female. The
remaining males will move up a rank in the
hierarchy.

Taken from Wikipedia.
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So why doesn't Marlin change sex when Coral is eaten at the beginning from the barracuda? Disney were caught napping there!


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23 Oct 2012, 6:11 pm

I think it might have to do with it being a disney movie and they don't want people especially kids knowing about sex and therefore having to explain it at such a young age. But you make a good point though about clown fish it is weird how they can do that because I had only heard of guppies doing that. 8) 8)


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23 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

A Disney movie featuring a sex change? Not in this century.



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23 Oct 2012, 10:41 pm

It's a cartoon featuring anthropomorphic fish that speak English, and you're worried about a sex change?

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23 Oct 2012, 11:27 pm

I wouldn't think he's actually being serious :lol:

Although why whould Merlin change sex? There wasn't any other clownfish guy around to have crazy hot external fertilization with, so he could take care of Nemo while being in either gender :lol:


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24 Oct 2012, 5:17 am

Fnord wrote:
It's a cartoon featuring anthropomorphic fish that speak English, and you're worried about a sex change?

:roll:


Most objects and animals in a Disney film talk. :razz: So that's hardly the point.
I'm not necessarily "worried" about there not being a sex change. :lmao:

Shatbat wrote:
I wouldn't think he's actually being serious :lol:

Although why whould Merlin change sex? There wasn't any other clownfish guy around to have crazy hot external fertilization with, so he could take care of Nemo while being in either gender :lol:


First of all, it's Marlin, not Merlin. Stop thinking of the wizard. :lol:
Remember the part I quoted from Wikpedia.
When the Female is removed from the group (such as by death) the most dominant male would become the female. If you recall the movie, there was no other clownfish apart from Marlin and Nemo.

Just saying the movie does not make sense in that retrospect, just like how Disney have been racist in movies...


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24 Oct 2012, 9:32 am

Bibleaspie777 wrote:
I think it might have to do with it being a disney movie and they don't want people especially kids knowing about sex and therefore having to explain it at such a young age. But you make a good point though about clown fish it is weird how they can do that because I had only heard of guppies doing that. 8) 8)


Salmon do it too.



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24 Oct 2012, 1:58 pm

While he doesn't explicitly become female, he does try to be both a mother and father to his child. So it is represented at least thematically in that sense.

And while they haven't explored gender reassignment in a disney film, they have explored gender non-conformity to varying degrees of tastefulness. Mulan is an example of this. Also A Bug's Life, with the male ladybug who was frequently hit on and mistaken for a female.



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24 Oct 2012, 3:36 pm

Because even as the only adult clownfish there, Marlin still wasn't the dominant one, I suppose... ;)

I dunno - in a movie with vegetarian sharks and a stingray that offers its services as a bus rather than simply eating its passengers, it's hard to even notice, much less be bothered by, one of the more outre facts of clownfish biology, you know?


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24 Oct 2012, 4:25 pm

Frogs can change sex as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Reed_Frog


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24 Oct 2012, 6:39 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
kill you dead


Any chance I could convince you to get rid of that pleonasm?


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24 Oct 2012, 8:10 pm

Funny thing is after catching a clownfish in one of the Animal Crossing games, which is rated "E" for everyone, it mentions in your fish log that they are all born male. :)



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24 Oct 2012, 8:19 pm

Fnord wrote:
It's a cartoon featuring anthropomorphic fish that speak English, and you're worried about a sex change?

:roll:


Yeah, funny how it's perfectly acceptable for animals to talk and act like humans for the most part in cartoons and yet people go nuts if, for example, a male mosquito that bites people when it's really only the female that does, like in this one Far Side Cartoon where a mosquito comes home from work and says to his wife "What a day! I must have spread malaria halfway across the country!" I find these days people do not approve of "breaking the rules" in cartoons as much as they once did and that takes all the fun and creativity out of them. :(



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28 Oct 2012, 9:31 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
Because even as the only adult clownfish there, Marlin still wasn't the dominant one, I suppose... ;)

I dunno - in a movie with vegetarian sharks and a stingray that offers its services as a bus rather than simply eating its passengers, it's hard to even notice, much less be bothered by, one of the more outre facts of clownfish biology, you know?


I believe that stingrays are filter feeders. LIke baleen whales they only eat bug sized plankton. But I could be wrong.



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29 Oct 2012, 8:52 am

They also forgot that we could soon the clownfish if we don't protect them. With global warming and ocean acidifation starting to kill coral reefs, which are their home, Finding Nemo might not be possible.


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29 Oct 2012, 3:16 pm

oh no! 8O


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