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18 Feb 2013, 1:38 pm

This is a topic where pro-wrestling fans discuss their common interest for WWE\TNA and anything pro-wrestling related.

About WWE in 2013:

Current champions:

-The Rock: WWE Champion

-Alberto Del Rio: World heavyweight champion

-Wade Barett: Intercontinental Champion

-Antonio Cesaro: United States Champion

-Daniel Bran and kane: Tag team Champions

-Kaitlyn: Divas Champion

With the Rock having defeated CM Puk at Phoenix AR during their Royal Rumble match, i along many fans am disappointed that a part-time superstar is in possession of the WWE championship belt. Because the rock is only temporary, his holding of the title only serves as a transition, until another superstar takes the belt, but who?

It's no secret that everyone is afraid of John Cena hogging the title for another year.

2 weeks ago Brock Lesnar returned giving the ratings a boost, although story-wise its still not explained why he's still holding on to Paul Heyman. However, the Monday 11 episode of RAW, suggests that C.M Punk is plotting against Heyman given the look on Punk's face after hugging him.

Anyone els got any thoughts on the current state of the WWE?



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18 Feb 2013, 4:19 pm

I was livid at CM Punk dropping the title to the Rock, all his hard work flushed down the toilet for a part time performer. I will be rioting if John Cena so much as breathes on the WWE Title.

Kane and Bryan will dissolve soon, they have been stale since December after starting off as ridiculously entertaining.

Wade Barrett is stuck in transition, the IC title should be held by him till the spring when he drops it to someone who isn't Bo Dallas

Antonio Cesaro impresses me week in and week out.

As for the rest, The Shield are awesome. All 3 of them have big and bright futures, particularly Dean Ambrose and his Joker-esque mannerisms. Roman Reigns is a beast and Seth Rollins is decent too.

Get Paige up from NXT and have her beat Kaitlyn for the Diva's title, she CAN wrestle and her accent is awesome since I'm a fellow countryman. :wink:


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18 Feb 2013, 6:57 pm

I remember the week after the Royal rumble someone had a sign the read: "Phoenix screwjob, Punk got screwed!"
It's nowhere near as insulting to wrestling fans everywhere to see a part timer hold the WWE title, as it is to see John Cena hold it again.

Kane Ad Bryan had a good run, their anger management sketches had really funny material, and formed a pretty good tag team. It's sad to see them break-up, since team hell no, and Rhodes scholars and the two team that highlighted the tag team division revival of 2012.

I wish there were more worthy opponents for Wade Barrett, sure there's Randy Orton and Christian (fellow countryman in my case) might be coming back soon. Sure Christian had the title before, he might still provide some good matches.

The problem with Cesaro is that he's too good for the united states title. He's clearly superior to other jobbers\mid-carders in the WWE, yet he's still fresh in the organization preventing him from going for the IC championship or WH-W championship (or at least yet).

Also, Dolph Ziggler: Cash in your money in the bank contract already!

The shield are full of talent and potential, its a shame all they're used for are hit-run appearances. This might improve though, as of now we know Paul Heyman seems to have a stable: Punk, The shield, Brock Lesnar. Enough to cause a rampage.

Ah yes, i forgot to mention how the divas devision was destroyed last year after Beth Phoenix's departure. Absolutely Paige deserves a Divas spot, although the WWE is known for wasting female talent: Melina, Mickie James to name a few.

Speaking of being a countryman of Paige, did you by any chance watch TNA's tour of Britain? Any thoughts?



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19 Feb 2013, 5:02 pm

Things i would change/fix about WWE:

-Fix Tensai: Ever since he came back last year, his career is being ruined. He could have been a monster heel, yet every match he fought he lost, and now he's becoming a laughing stock (the lingerie match must have been his lowest point). The truth is Tensai/Prince Albert/ A-train does have talent, during his time in Japan he was a Tag-team specialist, so why not put him in a tag team? Probably because at the time the tag teams where revived there was no suitable match for Tensai.

What i suggest: Now that Mark Henry is back, maybe they could pair Henry and Tensai as a destructive tag team, both men could use a career boost.

-The world heavyweight title: Currently Alberto Del Rio had a face turn and defeated The big show on smackdown for the title. While Del Rio's face turn is not all that bad, the fact remains it's still awkward, and his rivalry with Big show fails to impress anyone.

Meanwhile Dolph Ziggler has the money in the bank contract that should have been cashed-in long ago. Although i understand him being reluctant to cash-in the contract while Big show still held the title.

End the Big-show/Del Rio rivalry! Let Ziggler chash in his contract and form a rivalry with Del Rio, and if he wins the world heavyweight title, perhaps a new rivalry with Kofi Kingston? and speaking of Ziggler...

-Let Ziggler stand on his own: Dolph Ziggler has always been associated with other people; The spirit squad, Vickie Guerrero,Jack Swagger, AJ and Big-E. Give him some independence, ever since his tag team with swagger was dissolved he made so much progress. Most of the time attaching someone to a wrestler is usually because that said wrestler lacks the microphone skills: (Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman). Ziggler does not lack in-ring talent or mic skills.

More to come, as the post is already getting pretty big.
Anybody else have any input? Please keep it realistic, no fantasy wrestling (yes,we all want to see Sting face the undertaker), no "fire Cena!" or "Bring back ECW!".



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19 Feb 2013, 5:42 pm

Agree on Dolph Ziggler, he will ditch AJ and Big E Langston in the future. Langston's mic skills are horrible, while AJ has gotten boring in her crazy chick persona.

As for Alberto Del Rio, he's better as a face than a heel, where he was bland and stale. But his upcoming match with Jack Swagger has been done before, remember JBL/Eddie Guerrero circa 2004?

A Christian/Ziggler feud for the World title would be interesting, the former can still go in the ring. Looking forward to seeing what happens when Captain Charisma returns.

The Divas Division is dead now that Beth Phoenix is gone. Natalya is being horribly wasted, Tamina is going nowhere and Layla's last face run was disastrous. I miss the days when the women at least showed some fight and ability in the ring, they wasted the likes of Mickie James, Melina, Gail Kim and Kharma in favour of models. If the Women's title was still active, Natalya would be a great champion. She is hot and can wrestle, except she is being wasted. Paige is the salvation that will bring the division back.


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19 Feb 2013, 9:47 pm

I think one downside about Del Rio being a face is that he loses his aggressive style. The Feud with Swagger is not about originality but rather making Del Rio's face character seem more convincing.With an ultra-conservative right wing spokesman like Zeb, Jack is sure to get Heel heat, either way Del Rio looks better in comparison.

Note: is seems Alex Jones is slamming Jack and Zeb's gimmick on Infowars http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/1397 ... -race-card It seems Mr Jones can't tell reality from a gimmick.



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19 Feb 2013, 11:26 pm

While the guy may not have, by proper wrestling etiquette, put his time in to earn the right to be next champion, I still have to think Ryback would make a fantastic world's champ. Especially if Vince McMahon could give the title over to the Rock - after being gone for how long(?) - I don't see why he couldn't do the same with Ryback, who can fill an auditorium with his fans. I fear otherwise, there's the chance his potential will be wasted.

As a side note: though lacking the physique that would make a Greek god envious, my little girl thinks I look like Ryback (shaved head and facial hair), so admittedly, her opinion on Ryback is influencing my opinions. :wink:

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20 Feb 2013, 12:26 am

Kraichgauer: Ryback does have alot of potential, the problem is that the WWE keeps wasting his talent. Remember last year when he was in those jobbers matches week-after-week? Everyone wanted to see him have a push, once he did it turned-out pretty mediocre (helping Cena defeat punk, getting ambushed by The Shield on an regular basis).

I still think Ryback should start slower like most of the roster, working his way from united states champion to world heavyweight champion and when he's had enough competitive experience, then he can try-out for the WWE title.

Plus i think its been stressed enough: Ryback needs to turn heel! A huge giant who sees others as his prey: that is a heel!

Though i have to wonder, did they give him such a high push exclusively so that he could face say...Brock Lesnar?

Also: that story with your little girl was absolutely adorable.



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20 Feb 2013, 12:43 am

Grand_pilot wrote:
Kraichgauer: Ryback does have alot of potential, the problem is that the WWE keeps wasting his talent. Remember last year when he was in those jobbers matches week-after-week? Everyone wanted to see him have a push, once he did it turned-out pretty mediocre (helping Cena defeat punk, getting ambushed by The Shield on an regular basis).

I still think Ryback should start slower like most of the roster, working his way from united states champion to world heavyweight champion and when he's had enough competitive experience, then he can try-out for the WWE title.

Plus i think its been stressed enough: Ryback needs to turn heel! A huge giant who sees others as his prey: that is a heel!

Though i have to wonder, did they give him such a high push exclusively so that he could face say...Brock Lesnar?

Also: that story with your little girl was absolutely adorable.


Thanks for appreciating my story about my daughter - she's Ryback's littlest fan. 8)
I have no problem with Ryback going after some other title. I do agree he's being wasted these days.
Ryback going up against Brock Lesnar would be incredible! I had thought Ryback vs. Tensai was going to be an epic battle, so I was more than a little disappointed that Ryback had finished him off so quickly.

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20 Feb 2013, 10:50 am

Ryback vs Lesnar would be good, although i expect Lesnar would win (his experiance and more agressive and competitive nature gives him an edge). Ryback would still put-up a good fight. I figure after wrestle mania he'll be put in his rightful place and start with perhaps the united states championship.

Instead of fighting Tensai, why not pair him up with Tensai for a tag team? Ryback survival instincts with Tensai's destructive nature, would make a cool tag team of 2 giants. Its better then Tensai/Brodus Clay.



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20 Feb 2013, 3:19 pm

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Ryback vs Lesnar would be good, although i expect Lesnar would win (his experiance and more agressive and competitive nature gives him an edge). Ryback would still put-up a good fight. I figure after wrestle mania he'll be put in his rightful place and start with perhaps the united states championship.

Instead of fighting Tensai, why not pair him up with Tensai for a tag team? Ryback survival instincts with Tensai's destructive nature, would make a cool tag team of 2 giants. Its better then Tensai/Brodus Clay.


Sounds cool to me. 8)

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20 Feb 2013, 11:00 pm

*News Update*

Jack Swagger has been arrested for DUI and possession of Marijuana. http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/1400 ... -marijuana

In short the All-American American just self-destructed his career. And unlike Randy Orton i doubt he'll be given a second chance. So who do you guy's think will replace him for a feud with Alberto Del Rio?



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20 Feb 2013, 11:50 pm

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*News Update*

Jack Swagger has been arrested for DUI and possession of Marijuana. http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/1400 ... -marijuana

In short the All-American American just self-destructed his career. And unlike Randy Orton i doubt he'll be given a second chance. So who do you guy's think will replace him for a feud with Alberto Del Rio?


I dunno... Maybe Vince will make use of Swagger long enough for him to lose to Del Rio, before tossing him into oblivion.

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21 Feb 2013, 12:08 am

Swagger is more of a mid-carder, so i doubt they would loose much by getting rid of him besides, Remember Matt Hardy?



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21 Feb 2013, 12:11 am

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Swagger is more of a mid-carder, so i doubt they would loose much by getting rid of him besides, Remember Matt Hardy?


Actually, I do remember Matt Hardy, and his MF'ers (Matt Followers). Where is he now?

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21 Feb 2013, 12:33 am

After leaving WWE, he went over to TNA with his Brother Jeff. However he self-destructed his career when he was arrested for driving at ridiculous speed while under the influence (all while being suspended). TNA din't put up with his crap so they fired him. He's been in the independent circuit since.

From what i've been told he's gotten out-of-shape. Right now Jeff's contract is about to expire with TNA, his future in wrestling is unsure. Matt was on the radio 2 months ago (i think), and the host asked him how likely was a Hardy Boys reunion in the near future, Matt's answer: "Very likely!" take that as you will.