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13 Jul 2014, 7:14 am

What do you think about this movie yesterday i was on cinema, i liked it but i want know you opinion about it



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13 Jul 2014, 4:59 pm

I couldn't care less. I think it's stupid that every summer all the Hollywood movies are sequels or remakes.



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13 Jul 2014, 7:45 pm

:D I liked the first two Heston films a great deal. They played like horror movies.
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14 Jul 2014, 2:11 pm

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What do you think about this movie yesterday i was on cinema, i liked it but i want know you opinion about it


I enjoyed Rise of the Planet of the Apes quite a bit and thought it was a great, well made movie. This latest movie, not so much.

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Rise was a good movie because it established a story and advanced it - it explained where the intelligent Apes came from and how they came to be.

Dawn, IMHO, sort of advances the story but doesn't really tell us anything new. Years have passed since Rise. Humans have been decimated by a virus that spawned from the experiments that created the intelligent apes. Society has collapsed. Ceaser and the other apes are living in the woods north of SF. A group of humans who have survived the virus live in relatively primitive conditions in San Francisco - they are isolated and do not know for sure if there are survivors elsewhere. We learn all of this within the first few minutes. Then we have about 2 hours where the humans encounter the apes in the forest. Tensions rise. Fighting ensues. The evil humans and the evil apes want there to be a war. The good humans and the good apes try to keep the peace. The evil humans and the evil apes die. The good ones live. The end. Its not a bad movie, certainly quite watchable, but at the end it feels a bit like a pointless exercise because the state of affairs at the end of the movie is very similar to the state of affairs at the start. The only thing that's changed besides a lot of apes and humans dying is that the human and ape populations are now aware of one-another's existence whereas they were not at the start of the movie.

Technically all the acting was fine - no academy award performances here except I'm sure Andy Sirkis (sp) will be receiving awards for all his motion capture work. CGI was also generally very good, but there are a few bits where the movement of the apes doesn't seem quite correct.

So while I enjoyed the movie I also left a bit frustrated since it seemed to be a bit pointless. If you want to kill a few hours of your summer in a nice cool movie theater with a movie that won't leave you bored, its worth it. But if you're hoping for something epic, IMHO you would leave disappointed as I did.



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15 Jul 2014, 7:28 pm

Compared to most films I found it to be much more thoughtful and genuine.



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16 Jul 2014, 3:41 pm

I plan on seeing Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes this weekend.


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19 Jul 2014, 5:44 am

This has had some good reviews so it may be worth its digital bits and storage space.



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22 Jul 2014, 7:11 am

I thought it was a great summer blockbuster. It wasn't too original or wildly creative, but as far as blockbusters go, it was good.



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22 Jul 2014, 11:02 pm

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Ceaser and the other apes are living in the woods north of SF. A group of humans who have survived the virus live in relatively primitive conditions in San Francisco - they are isolated and do not know for sure if there are survivors elsewhere.


Also the humans think it will just be a matter of bringing the power back on line and contacting other survivors and then they go back to how things where before the pandemic. There where portrayed as the remnants of a dying culture desperately clinging to the crumbling remains.

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The evil humans and the evil apes want there to be a war. The good humans and the good apes try to keep the peace. The evil humans and the evil apes die. The good ones live. The end. Its not a bad movie, certainly quite watchable, but at the end it feels a bit like a pointless exercise because the state of affairs at the end of the movie is very similar to the state of affairs at the start.


I would leave those value judgements aside. One side in each camp releases that armed conflict would lead to high causalities to their own group (whether the humans or the apes), while the other side wants to launch a preemptive strike to secure the interests of their respective groups (getting electricity or keeping their territory secure). Where the former tries to get it trough (armed) diplomacy.

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Its not a bad movie, certainly quite watchable, but at the end it feels a bit like a pointless exercise because the state of affairs at the end of the movie is very similar to the state of affairs at the start. The only thing that's changed besides a lot of apes and humans dying is that the human and ape populations are now aware of one-another's existence whereas they were not at the start of the movie.


You forget about the set up for the third movie with Malcoms message to Caesar.



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23 Jul 2014, 1:57 pm

Sigbold wrote:
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The evil humans and the evil apes want there to be a war. The good humans and the good apes try to keep the peace. The evil humans and the evil apes die. The good ones live. The end. Its not a bad movie, certainly quite watchable, but at the end it feels a bit like a pointless exercise because the state of affairs at the end of the movie is very similar to the state of affairs at the start.


I would leave those value judgements aside. One side in each camp releases that armed conflict would lead to high causalities to their own group (whether the humans or the apes), while the other side wants to launch a preemptive strike to secure the interests of their respective groups (getting electricity or keeping their territory secure). Where the former tries to get it trough (armed) diplomacy.


Well, ok, but the movie goes out of its way, IMHO, to portray Ceaser and those who think like him as the good apes, and the other apes as bad. Likewise, I forget the names of the human characters but the group that wants to blow up the tower is portrayed as bad, and the other group as good. So we are meant to think of each group as good or bad. The movie makes the value judgement for us, we are not making it on our own.



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27 Jul 2014, 8:32 am

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Well, ok, but the movie goes out of its way, IMHO, to portray Ceaser and those who think like him as the good apes, and the other apes as bad.


I think it only went that way when it starts portraying how Koba responds to those who criticize his rule and how deal with the humans his forces capture. Up to that points one could think that he thinks he is acting in the best interest of the group (and saw Caesar as growing liability to the security of the group) and not because of personal motivations.

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Likewise, I forget the names of the human characters but the group that wants to blow up the tower is portrayed as bad,


Ah, Dreyfus. When I heard that name in the theater if found it an interesting choice of name. Makes you wonder why that character was given that name and in the light of the role in the overall conflict that he plays. Alto he is willing to give diplomacy a change when Malcom convinces him that it would better. So you could argue that when he see the apes attacking that they where lured in a false sense of security for a surprise attack.

And yes the movie goes in the end part out of its way to move our judgments about their actions in a certain direction.



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04 Dec 2014, 5:42 pm

I enjoyed it. I believe there will be one more. The reboot series seems to be a trilogy.


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05 Dec 2014, 1:47 pm

I enjoyed it. Andy Serkis and his motion capture work as Caesar is stellar, Toby Kebbel is all sinister menace as Koba, and the emotional depth is in spades. Best movie of summer 2014.


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06 Dec 2014, 4:11 am

Some spoilers ahead.

imo they messed up by introducing the humans too soon. The movie starts by introducing us to the ape civilization and how it works, we were even left to guess what the interaction between the apes was about through their gestures and motions, which was a mental treat and very engaging....and then it quickly ends with the introduction of humans.

That was so disappointing, imo, they should have gone an entire 40 minutes-plus of exclusive ape civilization before trickling the humans in.

It was still a good movie though, but I feel that they decided to play it safe rather than take a chance at something that requires a bit more creativity and risk. Forty minutes of hand gestures, no violence, and no dialogue would have probably been considered an excess for the dumb masses, some of the creative minds probably wanted to do it before introducing 'boom boom, bang bang' with the humans, but ultimately I'm guessing they decided not to take the risk.