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No TV sub-forum is complete without a thread about Breaking Bad. A few personal questions about the show:

a) Favourite Jesse quote?
b)Favourite Walter quote?
c)Favourite episode?
d) Favourite scene?
e) Favourite "b***h!" from Jesse? My favourite is "Plural b***h!".

If you have anything else you'd like to discuss post it.

By the way I'll be posting much more since I recently booted my computer in Ubuntu after getting a new laptop. At first it ran on Windows 8 which was very slow on WP but after I switched to Ubuntu it's very fast.

I really liked breaking bad.
I guess my favorite scenes/lines are
Walt's I am the danger speech
and when Walt gets asked if he is in the meth business or the money business and Walt says he is in empire business.

Watched it a couple of months ago, so some parts are blurry.

a) I don't remember what he says exactly but you know on ep 2 when he talks about hot milfs on the answering machine?
b) Jesse its time to cook!
c) Don't remember.
d) The acid bath.
e) Science b***h!

The only show I've seen, which isn't a miniseries, where every scene was interesting and had value. The only things I don't like are all the products made around the show. Not that the show didn't have a great sense of humor, but I find merchandise based around a story involving drug addicts and broken families to be pretty tasteless. But, too many fans of the show seem to be disgruntled young men who think Walt is some kind of hero, so I guess they don't find the show as sad as I do. Instead of seeing him ruining lives, they see Walt is a great man struggling against various oppressors.

Still, brilliant show. I couldn't get into Better Call Saul, though. It felt like the same general "arc" told through a different character.

Yes Jesse's answering machine. Contrary to popular belief Jesse never said "Science, b***h!" he said something similar to that in an episode (the episode after they met Tuco) Walter found a new way to cook that didn't involve sinus pills and it was very chemically enhanced it was there famous p2p-methamphetamine (blue sky) and Jesse was happy and said "Yeah Mr. White, Yeah science!".

When Jesse was at Walter's house for dinner Jesse should have said,

"Damn! Mr White ain't the only one who can cook!"

Better Call Saul is very similar to BB in terms of plot however it gives the audience much more background on Saul and Mike which could be interesting, it is on YouTube.

Walter isn't a hero he is considered an anti-hero, however that's not true at first he made meth to provide for his family but when he got enough he didn't quite he got obsessed with the empire he made he couldn't quit. The idea of the show was to show the transition of the complicated Walter White at first he was an anti-hero at the end he was a crook.

I still like Walter, it's hard not to. I heard people who grew to hate him throughout the series, I can see why people do, I just don't hate him.

I think that may be why my opinion differs. Since the first episode I saw Walt as a lousy and detached husband and father. He never felt truly invested in his family. I never thought he changed during the series, but rather that the power he got through making meth allowed him to finally be who he always wanted to be (though he may not have really recognized that side of himself before).

I think he wanted to surpass Gretchen and Elliot's wealth that they had made from the company Grey Matter. That's probably why he didn't stop, he reminded himself he was a good person but really he wasn't. I'm not sure if he was trying to provide for his family in the beginning or he just used that as an excuse to work more to surpass Gretchen and Elliot's wealth (I like they had a few billion dollars).

I do think 'Breaking Bad' was a masterful show, brilliantly told and even better acted, but I can't help but be slightly negatively swayed by the extreme praise and adulation which surrounds it, as I would be of anything that continually gets called "the greatest _____ ever". The series did have its slow stretches and pointless episodes in seasons two and three and there were several plotlines which felt kind of forced and/or didn't really go anywhere, so it's far from flawless, but it was a totally engrossing series worthy of high recognition, just maybe not "the greatest TV show ever".

I never got the impression Walt was a bad husband or father. He was a bitter but honest nobody who felt he deserved much more than life gave him and a meth empire was ultimately his ticket to power, but I think it was still pretty obvious he cared for his family and tried to provide the best that he could. He ultimately became corrupted by his pursuit of power and wealth, but when it all came crashing down he showed far more remorse and regret for losing his family than any of his money, so I'd definitely paint him as more of an anti-hero, like that of a great Greek tragedy.

But, did he provide out of care for family, or because he liked being the one who could provide?

I don't see the two as being mutually exclusive.

Meth is a very dangerous and devastating drug and the way I see it is that making and selling that stuff make you a villain, even if it's for "providing for your familly" or what not. To be fair I didn't watched that serie.

@Rudin: From what I know about Breaking Bad it may not be the very appropriate for a twelve years old; for a smart person your age I would more recommend something like Eureka Seven, though in the end it's your choice.

I can totally see what you're talking about. There was one episode in Season 3 and they only spent time in the lab trying to kill a fly, literally, it was funny watching Walt and Jesse quarrel but it was totally unnecessary.

***spoilers below***

Season three had a stretch of episodes where basically nothing happened, and "Fly" was the worst of them. I know that episode was a cost-cutting measure (see: "bottle episode"), but no real plot progression or character development came out of it. It was just there to pad out the season. Likewise, some subplots were just pointless or felt too forced: Marie's kleptomania was made to be a big deal early in the series but it eventually fizzled out without contributing anything important to the overall storyline (it loosely served as a way to get Hank back into the DEA investigation, but that could've easily been written any other way). Her character was pretty useless and that was just a cheap way to milk some drama out of her. Also, for all the heavy foreshadowing/flash-forwards in season two, I thought the plane crash was a pretty lame and implausible pay-off, though thematically, it crucially developed Walt's character further, so I give it a lenient pass.

Although I mostly have no complaints with season four or five, both of which were superbly done, I felt a *little* cheated by the last couple of episodes in making Jack the primary villain. Jack was a minor character who only appeared in about three or four episodes until he suddenly stepped in and became the focal point of the series finale. By comparison, Gus Fring had two and a half seasons to be developed as an antagonist, including his introduction as an ally to Walt and plenty of backstory, so when Walt finally killed him in the season four finale, it was a fantastic pay-off. The main tension in 'Breaking Bad' was generally in Walt's relation with his family: the drama with his wife, his inner turmoil over his son who saw him as a hero, keeping his identity secret from his brother-in-law...all of that pretty much ended in the third to last episode and the last two focused on Walt getting revenge on a gang of Neo-Nazis who were only introduced within the season, which felt a little cheap. Also, while I liked the concept of Lydia as a character, most of her storylines were a little clumsy, including Todd's pointless crush on her and the anticlimactic pay-off of finally using the long-anticipated ricin on her.

Well the plain crash was actually a very important part of the series. It made Jesse realize that his drug use had the power to kill 167 people indirectly. This made Jesse get sober which was very important because that means Jesse would have never worked with Gus because he doesn't work with junkies as he stated previously.

Jesse was hooked on heroine, meth and weed prior to the plain crash, if the plain crash hadn't happen he would have died (which was Vince Gilligan's plan however Aaron Paul's stunning performance made VG change his mind).

Also I have to say Marie was important. Marie is the direct bridge between Walter and Hank if Marie had never married Hank Walter wouldn't be able to bug Hank's office and distract Hank in order to avoid getting busted. Walter Jr however doesn't do much he just eats breakfast and swears. However he is sort of part of Walt's family.

Speaking of being busted if Walter was arrested he can be charged with 20+ counts of murders, 9 murder-for-hire charges, "kingpin" statute (life in prison, no parole), conspiracy to commit money laundering, obstructing a federal investigation, 2 counts of unarmed robbery, criminal enterprise, narcotics trafficking, trafficking of a controlled substance, carrying a concealed firearm without a license and many more charges he cannot be sentenced to death in NM so he'll likely be serving 4-8 life sentences.

I didn't like Lydia really I found here annoying at times she also played a small role in the plot as a whole, however she wasn't pointless.

I also found Todd rather timid and unlike his uncle and his gang. Todd also played a smaller role than Lydia, Walter could of just used Saul's associates.

It is very graffic with violence, drug use and drug making but it doesn't affect me really if you have a "thick skin" it just bounces off. I am more scared by jump scares but Breaking Bad actually isn't that bad. Criminal Minds is even more violent and I believe it is rating PG. It's fine, I should check out Eureka Seven though.

There is a reason why methampehtamine is banned, it's not just dangerous for addicts it's dangerous to people around the addict. Meth, if used a certain way, can deliver just as big of a rush as cocaine making the user go ape-shit.

Actually Sean (rehab counselor) killed his daughter due to a cocaine rush.