Audiences too sensitive when it comes to sexual aggression?

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What I mean is, when you watch older movies, the sexual scenarios are more aggressive compared to today. In Thunderball (1965) for example, James Bond seduces a woman by blackmailing her into ratting her out to her boss, unless his silence comes with a price. He then kisses her and she is turned on and kisses back. She gives into the blackmail but in a turned on sort of way.

In Lady in Cement (1968) Raquel Welsh sees Frank Sinatra and smiles at him and as a pick up line, says "Well should I scream rape now, or wait and phone in a complaint". But you never hear a woman say that as a pick up line to a guy in a movie nowadays.

It seems that audiences have just become too prudish, when it comes to sexual seduction and they only want politically correct sex seduction, which really takes the fun and passion out of it really.

Don't get me wrong, sex crimes in real life are horrible but if a person is seduced by sexual aggression and wants it, in a movie, than is it so bad then, to portray it that way, and not have to have it be considered to be such a terrible statement towards real life crimes?

Why do audiences only want politically correct seductions in movies nowadays, or at least that is what audiences think they want?

I think sexual morals are gone we're left without mutually agreed on rules of conduct.

When they shot those scenes in the 60s, real people thought of themselves as living in holy matrimony etc. - and that thing on the screen was fictional. It was against the code of conduct of the audience, but the audience knew that because they had a code of conduct in the first place.
It's like if I make an inappropriate joke among my friends. They know me and understand that the joke is a joke.

But today would be more like me making an inappropriate joke in my kickstarter campaign - I want people to pay me for it, but my audience doesn't know me or whether I'm joking.
Today, there are no 'real people' to bortow that phrase from the previous paragraph, so the thing on the screen stops being a fiction, and starts being potentially threatening.
If you don't know where you're standing (as a society, but also maybe personally), it's very hard to understand what you're looking at...

Men used to slap women in movies a lot back in the day and that was considered sexy.

I don't like it when I see a woman get slapped across the face.

In many TV shows in the 1960s, there was lots of implication (lights off), rather than overt sexuality. It's much less prudish nowadays (especially when it comes to sitcoms).

I don't really understand, what exactly are you looking for? A return to movies where women were more objectified and their only purpose in the narrative was to serve as the male protagonist's sex goal? Sadly, they still do make movies like that, I see that happen in action films all the time. I guess I just don't get your question "why are people so sensitive about sexual aggression"? That word is barely a step away from "assault", so maybe you intended to use a different word? One with less harshly negative connotations?

Then again, if you want to see movies where women are treated rough, then you're gonna have a field day when I introduce you to the concept of pornography!

Disclaimer: I haven't seen either of these movies, so I'm reaction based on the description.

I realize these are just movies and therefore fiction, but here goes:

There is absolutely nothing seductive about being blackmailed into having sex! It's wrong and disgusting, and just reading it makes me feel sick.

There is no way to be turned on by that. It is claimed that porn can make some males have unrealistic expectations to what is okay and what women want. If that kind of content is seen in even more mainstream entertainment, it can only be harmful to females.


I say no, it's okay for audiences to be disgusted by this, at least it means we have (for the time being at least), gone forward since then.

It seems only recently that movies featuring women getting beaten up also show those women fighting back, and winning, although I was disappointed that Avengers: Endgame showed a scant few minutes of women kicking Thanos' butt.

The op seems to want consensual sexual assault/rape seen more in movies. Really? So wrong.

Maybe you should stick with certain porn scenes.

Yes, that's the problem with entertainment today: not enough violence and aggression

Apparently, we're the ones being prudish because we don't understand that not using blackmail and coercion to get sex "really takes the fun and passion out of it really".

True. Now fantasy wise you can be involved in those scenes but that's not what takes place in movies. Movies show what happens in real life and rape and blackmail aren't ways to endear yourself to someone.

Whenever I watch movies with stuff like that in them, it turns me off, and I quit liking the character.

If a protagonist who the audience is supposed to like exhibits such behavior, I’d probably get up and leave. It would be very triggering for abuse survivors in the audience.

We’ve come a long way since that time. It’s progress - a good thing.

It concerns me a little that you think decent depictions of sex takes all the “fun and passion out of it.” Positive renderings of sex are incredibly sexy to me.

Ironpony are you starting this thread because you want to put something like this in your movie, but feel it would be rejected by audiences?

One scene I hate is from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. You think Redford's character is threatening a woman with a gun, but it turns out she's his girlfriend. Sounds not so horrific summed up in one sentence, but for the minute or two that he appears to be threatening and coercing her it's stomach churningly unpleasant viewing.

I'm glad these things are seen as inappropriate now. It's a horrible way to view women.

It’s awful and irresponsible.

People look up to movie stars and seek to emulate their behavior. If the apparent “good guy” in a movie portrays negative behaviors (like forceful sexual seduction or things of a similar nature), some viewers might then think that that behavior is okay.

I’m bothered by the infamous scene in Gone with the Wind. It makes me a little nauseous.

Was watching a western where a man was beating a woman and it was shrugged off as oh that's his woman, he's allowed. If you are okay with that op you need serious help. Now again if it's in a consensual environment sure, but that's not what you are talking about.