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22 Aug 2020, 3:18 pm

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During lockdown, I finally started watching Breaking Bad. For the most part, the show is as good as I had heard but the finale gave me mixed reactions.

As far as Walt finding a way to get rid of his money goes, I think the show tied up it's loose ends fairly well. I just didn't like the idea that he basically avoided facing justice for all of his crimes. The whole appeal of this show was seeing this web of lies slowly catching up to Walt with the hopes that we'd see him eventually get what's coming to him, especially from series 5 onward where he'd become far less relatable and far more sadistic. So to see him drop dead before this happens felt a little disappointing. I knew the show wasn't necessarily going to end with a happy ending for the characters but I do think that the ending could've been a lot more satisfying for the viewers.

What do you guys think? I know this is an unpopular opinion and I welcome your responses, contrasting or otherwise.


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22 Aug 2020, 8:13 pm

While I wish the finale could have been stretched out into two or three episodes, the two things I absolutely loved about it was:
1) Walt admitting he became a drug lord not just to leave his family financially secure once he was gone, but because he liked it. I always suspected he had been feeding his hidden darkside from the very beginning.
2) How Walt was able to mow down all the dirtbag white nationalists with his automated machine gun.

I seriously didn't ever believe Walt would live to face justice. Can't say he went out a winner, but he took as many bad guys as he could with him.


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23 Aug 2020, 6:19 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
While I wish the finale could have been stretched out into two or three episodes, the two things I absolutely loved about it was:
1) Walt admitting he became a drug lord not just to leave his family financially secure once he was gone, but because he liked it. I always suspected he had been feeding his hidden darkside from the very beginning.
2) How Walt was able to mow down all the dirtbag white nationalists with his automated machine gun.

I seriously didn't ever believe Walt would live to face justice. Can't say he went out a winner, but he took as many bad guys as he could with him.




I do agree that the bit where he confessed to his wife of having a selfish agenda all that time was a good scene (albeit a little overdue).

See when Walt was caught by Hank around half way through the series, I thought the last couple of episodes would be essentially a courtroom battle where Walt's fate rests entirely with Skyler and her conflicted loyalties, culminating in her turning on her husband and exposing him for all his crimes. Then as Walt's escorted out of the courtroom, he collapses and dies. Granted this would still mean he's pretty much got away with it all but at least he'd face some sort of exposure and comeuppance.


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23 Aug 2020, 3:42 pm

therosester wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
While I wish the finale could have been stretched out into two or three episodes, the two things I absolutely loved about it was:
1) Walt admitting he became a drug lord not just to leave his family financially secure once he was gone, but because he liked it. I always suspected he had been feeding his hidden darkside from the very beginning.
2) How Walt was able to mow down all the dirtbag white nationalists with his automated machine gun.

I seriously didn't ever believe Walt would live to face justice. Can't say he went out a winner, but he took as many bad guys as he could with him.




I do agree that the bit where he confessed to his wife of having a selfish agenda all that time was a good scene (albeit a little overdue).

See when Walt was caught by Hank around half way through the series, I thought the last couple of episodes would be essentially a courtroom battle where Walt's fate rests entirely with Skyler and her conflicted loyalties, culminating in her turning on her husband and exposing him for all his crimes. Then as Walt's escorted out of the courtroom, he collapses and dies. Granted this would still mean he's pretty much got away with it all but at least he'd face some sort of exposure and comeuppance.


Interesting.


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23 Aug 2020, 3:44 pm

therosester wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
While I wish the finale could have been stretched out into two or three episodes, the two things I absolutely loved about it was:
1) Walt admitting he became a drug lord not just to leave his family financially secure once he was gone, but because he liked it. I always suspected he had been feeding his hidden darkside from the very beginning.
2) How Walt was able to mow down all the dirtbag white nationalists with his automated machine gun.

I seriously didn't ever believe Walt would live to face justice. Can't say he went out a winner, but he took as many bad guys as he could with him.




I do agree that the bit where he confessed to his wife of having a selfish agenda all that time was a good scene (albeit a little overdue).

See when Walt was caught by Hank around half way through the series, I thought the last couple of episodes would be essentially a courtroom battle where Walt's fate rests entirely with Skyler and her conflicted loyalties, culminating in her turning on her husband and exposing him for all his crimes. Then as Walt's escorted out of the courtroom, he collapses and dies. Granted this would still mean he's pretty much got away with it all but at least he'd face some sort of exposure and comeuppance.


Interesting.


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25 Aug 2020, 2:28 am

I thought the finale was good but not perfect, like a lot of other people make it out to be. I like the Ozymandias episode, but do not like the two episodes after as much as I could have. Here is what I would have changed, for what I felt would have been the perfect ending.

(SOME SPOILERS FROM THE SHOW)

So when the DEA agents escort Marie home, they discover that the place was broken into. I think it would have been better, if the neo-nazis were still there, and then end up gunning them down along with Marie, and Marie dies. This causes Skyler to be charged with felony murder of not only Hank but Marie now as well. And Walt Jr. now thinks that Walt has orchestrated Marie's murder, cause they would think that he sent them there to recover the evidence. So now Walt Jr. and Skyler also blame him for this murder, as well as the police.

I don't like how Walter waited in a house for so long and I think he should have rescued Jesse sooner. I like how he gets the money to his son and I feel that should be kept in. But instead of Walter White being killed in the process of rescuing Jesse, he lives. But I don't like how his cancer came back. I think it would have been better if his cancer is still reduced so he can live years longer. Walter White after rescuing Jesse, tries to see his son but this ends up getting him caught by the police.

He is arrested and tried for murder, and sentenced to death. Skyler is sentenced to life in prison.

I don't like how Andrea was killed off. I think it would have been better if they just threatened to kill Andrea to keep Jesse around, but also if Walt comes around sooner, and rescues Jesse sooner, that would have been better anyway. So Andrea lives.

After Walter saves Jesse, Jesse then goes back to Andrea and Brock, and they all go to Alaska together and live as a family down the road.

The show then skips ahead to years later and Walt Jr, comes to watch his father be executed. Jesse while in hiding, in Alaska, hears about it on TV.

This I think would have bee the perfect ending. But does anyone else think so?



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25 Aug 2020, 1:20 pm

ironpony wrote:
I thought the finale was good but not perfect, like a lot of other people make it out to be. I like the Ozymandias episode, but do not like the two episodes after as much as I could have. Here is what I would have changed, for what I felt would have been the perfect ending.

(SOME SPOILERS FROM THE SHOW)

So when the DEA agents escort Marie home, they discover that the place was broken into. I think it would have been better, if the neo-nazis were still there, and then end up gunning them down along with Marie, and Marie dies. This causes Skyler to be charged with felony murder of not only Hank but Marie now as well. And Walt Jr. now thinks that Walt has orchestrated Marie's murder, cause they would think that he sent them there to recover the evidence. So now Walt Jr. and Skyler also blame him for this murder, as well as the police.

I don't like how Walter waited in a house for so long and I think he should have rescued Jesse sooner. I like how he gets the money to his son and I feel that should be kept in. But instead of Walter White being killed in the process of rescuing Jesse, he lives. But I don't like how his cancer came back. I think it would have been better if his cancer is still reduced so he can live years longer. Walter White after rescuing Jesse, tries to see his son but this ends up getting him caught by the police.

He is arrested and tried for murder, and sentenced to death. Skyler is sentenced to life in prison.

I don't like how Andrea was killed off. I think it would have been better if they just threatened to kill Andrea to keep Jesse around, but also if Walt comes around sooner, and rescues Jesse sooner, that would have been better anyway. So Andrea lives.

After Walter saves Jesse, Jesse then goes back to Andrea and Brock, and they all go to Alaska together and live as a family down the road.

The show then skips ahead to years later and Walt Jr, comes to watch his father be executed. Jesse while in hiding, in Alaska, hears about it on TV.

This I think would have bee the perfect ending. But does anyone else think so?




You've really thought this through. I'm impressed.


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30 Aug 2020, 4:59 pm

Oh thanks. I just really like the show and although I thought the ending was good, I really wanted to think of what I thought would have been the perfect ending, so I couldn't help but think about it a lot.



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02 Sep 2020, 3:17 pm

I thought it was perfect. The Neo-Nazis got what they deserved, especially that POS Todd. Lydia got what she deserved, and Walter White redeemed himself by taking the bullet for Jesse, whom he finally set free.

I'm now enjoying Better Call Saul. I'm really wondering how the Lalo arc will play out. In Breaking Bad, Saul was still afraid Lalo would come after him, and it turns out he survived the hit job Mike had put out on him. What will happen to Kim?


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02 Sep 2020, 6:14 pm

I actually didn't feel the neo-nazis got what they deserved, or I did not feel satisfied. All of the neo-nazis actions where because of Walt and everything that came out of them was from his result. So I feel that Walt sort of preaching to the quire so to speak, when he "got revenge" on them, unless I am looking at it the wrong way?