Why do they have to be brilliant?’ The problem of autism...

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15 Sep 2021, 7:37 am

Hi all, saw this article in the Guardian. I raises some good points and has links to good films.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/s ... the-movies

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15 Sep 2021, 8:15 am

Much like the "Magical Negro" Trope , the "Idiot Savant" Trope has been codified and re-used over and over again by Hollywood to portray their idea of the "typical" autistic person.

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15 Sep 2021, 8:55 am

Well besides the 'Genius Autist' trope, I believe there's also the 'Psychic Autist' trope which seems common in horror movies. Like Danny in The Shining.

It's like in Hollowood Movies us Aspies are only redeemable if we have an impressively high IQ or we are psychically inclined enough to warn everyone of evil spirits and other dangers. :lol:

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15 Sep 2021, 9:00 am

King0fSpades wrote:

Well besides the 'Genius Autist' trope, I believe there's also the 'Psychic Autist' trope which seems common in horror movies. Like Danny in The Shining. It's like in Hollowood Movies us Aspies are only redeemable if we have an impressively high IQ or we are psychically inclined enough to warn everyone of evil spirits and other dangers.

This may come under the definition of the Inspirationally Disadvantaged Trope , which also seems to be common in Hollywood productions, especially Hallmark movies.

TVTropes.com is a great resource for both script writers and movie fans.

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15 Sep 2021, 9:07 am

Fnord wrote:

King0fSpades wrote:

Well besides the 'Genius Autist' trope, I believe there's also the 'Psychic Autist' trope which seems common in horror movies. Like Danny in The Shining. It's like in Hollowood Movies us Aspies are only redeemable if we have an impressively high IQ or we are psychically inclined enough to warn everyone of evil spirits and other dangers.

I love TVtropes!

And another good link to a trope that explains what I'm talking about is called 'Neurodiversity is Supernatural' where characters suffering from conditions like autism or schizophrenia are psychically gifted.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... pernatural

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15 Sep 2021, 9:09 am

Yeah, the way we are treated by Hollyweird -- as objects of "Inspiration Porn" -- saddens me.

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15 Sep 2021, 9:14 am

Fnord wrote:

Yeah, the way we are treated by Hollyweird saddens me.

It's why I don't particularly like Hollowood anymore. They warp people's perception of the most vulnerable in our society.

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15 Sep 2021, 9:26 am

The late Stella Young had a marvelous take on this...

I'm not your inspiration, thank you very much

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15 Sep 2021, 9:52 am

Fnord wrote:

The late Stella Young had a marvelous take on this...

I'm not your inspiration, thank you very much

That was very good. She made a lot of sense.

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16 Sep 2021, 9:24 pm

But... a lot of us have mad skills in narrow areas, often paired with an intense interest and particular memory - while having blank spots and an odd lack of skills in other areas.
the confused-but-brilliant professor trope, basically. Not quite the idiot-savant, but halfway there.

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16 Sep 2021, 9:48 pm

King0fSpades wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Yeah, the way we are treated by Hollyweird saddens me.

It's why I don't particularly like Hollowood anymore. They warp people's perception of the most vulnerable in our society.

also Hollywood is plain silly and always has been

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