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18 Jul 2005, 8:23 pm

This thread is for those who read the sixth Harry Potter book and want to discuss it.

Horcruxes? Wow. It makes a lot of sense why Voldemort didn't die. Anyone have any ideas what the unknown one is?



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18 Jul 2005, 8:32 pm

I do not know what the unknown one is but I will make a beat on who took the locket.

The initials on the letter were R.A.B. Take out the A. and you get R.B. What person with the initials R.B. would have been on Lord Voldemorts side to know where the horcruxe was and then later, betray Lord Voldemort and take it from him?


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18 Jul 2005, 8:46 pm

Regulus Black. Sirius's younger brother. He was killed by Voldemort/Death Eaters. Maybe his murder had something to do with him stealing the locket.

What about Snape? :evil:



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18 Jul 2005, 8:49 pm

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! !! !!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
WHY! WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!! !!

My second favorite character went evil and killed my favorite character!! !

I'm in a state of mourning!! Plus my favorite character, Hagrid, is no longer my favorite, because he is no longer so appealing to me....so now I have to re-evaluate all the characters to find which I like best. The demise of two of my favorite characters is the only HBP thought in my mind now....



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18 Jul 2005, 8:51 pm

For some strange reason, I saw it early in the book that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince. I told my borther at 3am CDT, long before I finished the book. As far as Snape being on the Dark Lords side, I am not surprised.

I would like to know what would happen if Snape did not kill Dumbledore. That was the task given to Malfoy but Malfoy could not do it. Snape had to do it because of the Unbreakable Vow.


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18 Jul 2005, 8:52 pm

Yeah, so I finished reading 'Half-Blood Prince'. The ending made me cry, and Snape's treachery was just as shocking as Dumbledore's death. Even after chapter two, I held out hope for most of the book that he was still on Dumbledore's side. As for Voldemort's backstory, I was dismayed to find out that he had always been evil. Part of what made his backstory interesting at first was that I thought he was a somewhat good person who 'went bad'. Another interesting point in the book was when Harry used the sectumsempra spell on Malfoy, who I actually felt a lot of sympathy for. And this isn't really important, but I really disliked Ron for how casually he acted after he broke up with Lavender, and nearly hated Ginny for going through boyfriends so fast. And I was upset that she ended up with Harry. I wanted Harry to end up with Luna.
But about the horcruxes, I think the one we don't know about was a Ravenclaw heirloom. I don't think any Ravenclaw heirlooms were mentioned in the previous books so it'll probably come up in book seven. By the way, why do you think none of the Death Eaters took Gryffindor's sword when they were in Hogwarts?



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18 Jul 2005, 9:31 pm

I don't even know where to begin. I was guessing that Dumbledore would die but it still shocked me to see Snape killing him. Here's my guess: Dumbledore knew Snape was still loyal to Voldemort all along and knew he would be Avada Kedavra'd, and let it happen anyway because Snape needs to be alive in the seventh book for Harry to succeed in killing Voldemort. He couldn't have ignored the signs and motives for any reason other than if he knew something Harry didn't.

The ending: no more Hogwarts! I don't know whether to celebrate or get angry about that. At least the last volume is going to be far more unpredictable than any of the previous ones.

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I wanted Harry to end up with Luna.

Yeah, really, aspies are so much cooler :D



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18 Jul 2005, 9:56 pm

Whether or not Harry continues his education at Hogwarts (I doubt he will), he will probably have to return to Hogwarts for some reason. One of the missing Horcruxes might be there. There is so much history and information at Hogwarts so most likely he'll return for some reason.



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18 Jul 2005, 10:21 pm

Though I enjoyed the book, I'm disappointed that nothing was said about the veil in the death chamber and little was said about the giants, elves, goblins and centuars.

I don't think Snape is truly evil, he had no choice, if he did not kill Dumbledore he would die, Malfoy would die and Dumbledore would be killed anyway.

I think Regulus Black did take the horcrux and that it was the "heavy locket that no one could open" in OotP.



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18 Jul 2005, 10:44 pm

regelus black was my first thought aswell....dont see who else it could be, unless rowling pulls out someone weve never heard of.

as for snape being evil, i totally didnt see that coming, same with him being the half blood prince. i do think he is evil though.

i can see harry going back to hogwarts at the start of book 7, to talk to dumbledores portrait.
if he is going to find all the horcruxes and kill voldemort, book 7 is going to have to be 3000 pages long, or i will be disappointed.



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21 Jul 2005, 1:44 am

Yeah, Luna is definately cool and a lot more Aspie-ish than Hermione. About wanting her and Harry to be together, I don't think so. Her and either Fred or George would go well together, imho. Harry's personality isn't right for her.
Snape still remains the big mystery, for me. How come Dumbledore was so convinced about Snape? It had to be more than just what Harry found out. As for Snape being the HB-Prince, that was awesome. I don't think, though, that he would have created the psuedonym "Half-Blood Prince" as if it was a badge of pride, if he was really a Death Eater. Is Dumbledore's death a ploy to allow him to find the remaining Horcruxes without interruption and in secrecy? Surely Voldemort would be feeling pretty secure now, but I don't think it is warranted.

Snape really reveals his own power here. We know him to be a master potionmaker, a master of occlumens; possibly moreso than even Voldemort or Dumbledore. He even makes his own powerful Dark spells. He must have a greater part to play than merely a pawn of Voldemort's.



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21 Jul 2005, 3:40 am

I think Luna and Neville could be aspies. Hermione isn't aspie-ish at all IMO.



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21 Jul 2005, 6:25 pm

I can't imagine the 7th book without Dumbledore. But, even before the book came out, many people expected to be knocked off sooner or later in it.

Couric interviewed the Author and said something like: "Many feel that Dumbledore's character might be a gonner in this book."

Rowling said something like: "You know, I have never actually said that there would be a death in this book."

Couric asked: "So there isn't going to be a death?"

J.K. Rowling said: "I'm not going to say!"


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21 Jul 2005, 7:50 pm

IMO, the 7th book needs to be a massive battle. As in Voldemort decides now that his greatest threat Dumbledore is now dead, he can proceed to invade Hogwarts and claim it as his own to further plumb its secrets. The Order of the Phoenix, Aurors, and (maybe) several Centaur warriors have to hold out against an army of Inferi, domesticated Trolls, Werewolves, Goblins (it's said that they've revolted numerous times in history, and that with them joining Voldemort he grows a lot richer), and Death Eaters. Maybe a Basilisk will be thrown in as a surprise?

Or we could have the opposite number with the Order making a surprise attack on Azkaban which has become more of a Death Eater fortress now that the Dementors flock to Voldemort's banner.



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22 Jul 2005, 2:02 pm

One thing that might've been mentioned in the first book was that Voldemort could possibly turn the school into a school for the Dark Arts.


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22 Jul 2005, 9:30 pm

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For some strange reason, I saw it early in the book that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince.


Yeah, so did I. The thing that wavered me though, was the fact he was half blood. I've bene thinking that he was pure.

But the reasoning behind the name confirmed why he was proud to be The half blood Prince, and with that I am impressed.

I'm not surprised at the nature of snape's loyalties, either. But I do think the reason Dumbledore trusted him was prety bloody stupid.

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I'm disappointed that nothing was said about the veil in the death chamber


So am I!! !! !! !! !! !! ! I loved reading about the department of mysteries, and further more, the room of requirement. I would like to see those parts morein the next book.

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regelus black was my first thought aswell


Same.

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Yeah, Luna is definately cool and a lot more Aspie-ish than Hermione.


Yes, I agree. Luna is Very aspie like. Hermione doesn't have an aspie bone in her body. You're kidding yourself if you think she does.

Anyway, Didn't J.K. Rowling hint about Crookshanks being a kneazle? Nothing was mentioned in this book.

I don't really like Ginny Weasly much, or Hermione.

I was kinda annoyed my favourite character didn't make any kind of comeback. I've been pondering for a while that that veil was hardly and "ordanary" way to "die".

What I did love about this book was the way I could relate to the characters and some of the experiences they were going through.