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Do you like Yu-gioh at all?
Yes 67%  67%  [ 4 ]
No 33%  33%  [ 2 ]
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23 Jan 2008, 5:53 am

This thread is for anyone to submit posts about Yu-gioh in any sense. Yu-gioh GX, the original Yu-gioh, the cards, why you like it or don't like it etc.


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23 Jan 2008, 6:39 am

Who else likes Yu-gioh GX? For some reason I really like it, the episodes I've watched anyway.


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23 Jan 2008, 12:27 pm

I played the original card game for a while, and was really into it - went to loads of tournaments, spent prettymuch all my money on the things, and did pretty good. I won 7 tournaments, and got paid to help run/judge a couple as well (1 in Edinburgh, 1 in some random little village near Bristol), but after a while I just lost interest. The cards got kinda weird, and it started to get annoying how all the old cards I put loads of effort into getting were all being banned from use, not to mention that the vast majority of players were just little kids anyway.

I still have a couple of my favorite cards kept safe though =)



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23 Jan 2008, 1:13 pm

I've never seen GX, but I've seen "Yu-Gi-Oh!", and it was the most pointless, braindead waste of time cartoon I've ever seen. It had no plot! It was just a twenty minute commercial for a card game. And a lazy excuse for one at that. When making a show based on trading cards, don't have the characters play with trading cards! They could have just used the creatures and whatnot represented on the cards as basis for the series, but instead they went with the cards themselves. Worst. Cartoon. Ever. A waste of animation cels.


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23 Jan 2008, 1:23 pm

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I've never seen GX, but I've seen "Yu-Gi-Oh!", and it was the most pointless, braindead waste of time cartoon I've ever seen. It had no plot! It was just a twenty minute commercial for a card game. And a lazy excuse for one at that. When making a show based on trading cards, don't have the characters play with trading cards! They could have just used the creatures and whatnot represented on the cards as basis for the series, but instead they went with the cards themselves. Worst. Cartoon. Ever. A waste of animation cels.


Bear in mind the card game followed the anime, not the other way round. The real-life card game had completely different rules to the show, anyway. It's fairly common to have anime's about a game, or sport. (Go, shougi, boxing, tennis etc all have their own anime's) And you're right that it is a bit braindead, but then again, the target audience is around 13 years old, so you'd hardly expect an in-depth analysis of freudian psychodynamics, would you? (though I think they dropped the target age a few years more for GX, I'm not sure.)

So, yeah. That seems a bit harsh.



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23 Jan 2008, 2:02 pm

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Bear in mind the card game followed the anime, not the other way round. The real-life card game had completely different rules to the show, anyway. It's fairly common to have anime's about a game, or sport. (Go, shougi, boxing, tennis etc all have their own anime's) And you're right that it is a bit braindead, but then again, the target audience is around 13 years old, so you'd hardly expect an in-depth analysis of freudian psychodynamics, would you? (though I think they dropped the target age a few years more for GX, I'm not sure.)

So, yeah. That seems a bit harsh.


I had way higher standards than that when I was 13. Hell, I had higher standards when I was 5. I've always demanded that a cartoon should have a at least an interesting plot and/or some comedy. And cartoons (aswell as movies) about games and sports is one of the lamest ideas ever in the history of storytelling. Especially when there's no comedy.
"Yu-Gi-Oh!" is nothing short of crap that should have never been produced. And it's not harsh to demand that children's entertainment should have some sort of substance. They're turning kids into zombies with no demand for quality, for crying out loud! They're gonna end up listening to Ying Yang Twins and liking "any movie that has Paris Hilton in it"!


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23 Jan 2008, 2:11 pm

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I had way higher standards than that when I was 13. Hell, I had higher standards when I was 5. I've always demanded that a cartoon should have a at least an interesting plot and/or some comedy. And cartoons (aswell as movies) about games and sports is one of the lamest ideas ever in the history of storytelling. Especially when there's no comedy.
"Yu-Gi-Oh!" is nothing short of crap that should have never been produced. And it's not harsh to demand that children's entertainment should have some sort of substance. They're turning kids into zombies with no demand for quality, for crying out loud! They're gonna end up listening to Ying Yang Twins and liking "any movie that has Paris Hilton in it"!


Well, good for you if you exclusively enjoyed highbrow stuff at that age.

But seriously - turning kids into zombies? Saying there's intellect-free TV avaiable will turn kids into zombies automatically, without any free will on the kids part, is about as logical as saying that violent video games breed psychopaths. People will turn to what they personally enjoy, and more power to them whatever they like.

For a hypothetical example of the logic I'm using - take 2 near identicle people, who have just 1 difference - 1 enjoys yodelling, and the other doesnt. In every other respect of their lives and personalities, they are identicle Who's better off? The one who can enjoy more things, or the one who enjoys less things?



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26 Jan 2008, 1:30 pm

in regard to Yu Gi Oh, rather watch the japanese version(mainly cause the dub cut out shedloads! and the GX dub just sucks), plus i love playing the card game



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26 Jan 2008, 2:08 pm

vandire wrote:
Vince wrote:
I had way higher standards than that when I was 13. Hell, I had higher standards when I was 5. I've always demanded that a cartoon should have a at least an interesting plot and/or some comedy. And cartoons (aswell as movies) about games and sports is one of the lamest ideas ever in the history of storytelling. Especially when there's no comedy.
"Yu-Gi-Oh!" is nothing short of crap that should have never been produced. And it's not harsh to demand that children's entertainment should have some sort of substance. They're turning kids into zombies with no demand for quality, for crying out loud! They're gonna end up listening to Ying Yang Twins and liking "any movie that has Paris Hilton in it"!


Well, good for you if you exclusively enjoyed highbrow stuff at that age.

But seriously - turning kids into zombies? Saying there's intellect-free TV avaiable will turn kids into zombies automatically, without any free will on the kids part, is about as logical as saying that violent video games breed psychopaths. People will turn to what they personally enjoy, and more power to them whatever they like.

For a hypothetical example of the logic I'm using - take 2 near identicle people, who have just 1 difference - 1 enjoys yodelling, and the other doesnt. In every other respect of their lives and personalities, they are identicle Who's better off? The one who can enjoy more things, or the one who enjoys less things?


I am ofcourse speaking hyperbolically. What I mean is that if you are only presented with crap as a child, you are more likely to grow up with low demands. And from what I see today, there's not much intellectually stimulating (and that includes funny) children's entertainment being produced at all today. And the so-called educational shows are talking to kids like they're stupid instead of challenging and stimulating their intellects. If the kids had better shows to choose from, I wouldn't complain so much about the bad stuff, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of quality out there at the moment, so I'm going to keep complaining. Especially about the shows made just to sell trading cards to kids.


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26 Jan 2008, 5:27 pm

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I am ofcourse speaking hyperbolically. What I mean is that if you are only presented with crap as a child, you are more likely to grow up with low demands. And from what I see today, there's not much intellectually stimulating (and that includes funny) children's entertainment being produced at all today. And the so-called educational shows are talking to kids like they're stupid instead of challenging and stimulating their intellects. If the kids had better shows to choose from, I wouldn't complain so much about the bad stuff, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of quality out there at the moment, so I'm going to keep complaining. Especially about the shows made just to sell trading cards to kids.


I had not realised you were speaking hyperbolically. In essence I agree with most of what you're saying - it is fairly hard work to sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, in finding anything intellectually stimulating on television.

That being said, it still seems a bit pointless to complain about what is available, that some people can choose to enjoy. Surely it would be a better use of time to, perhaps, either send letters to broadcasting companies. Or perhaps even, if there's a big enough gap in the market, and you have a solid idea on what there should be available (and currently isn't) get a business loan and fill this market gap?

(To clarify here, this isn't an attempt to be rude or insulting - a lot of successful companies have started because of peoples dissatisfaction with what was currently available. Your observations might well be the first step on your road to become the worlds biggest media mogul.)

Either way I'm not hugely worried - a child could watch nothing but complete drivel and still turn out fine if their parents actually do their jobs and parent them. TV can be education, entertainment, relaxation, or a variety of other things, but ultimately it doesn't have to be any of them.



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26 Jan 2008, 6:23 pm

I prefered Duel Masters. XD



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28 Jan 2008, 2:08 pm

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I had way higher standards than that when I was 13. Hell, I had higher standards when I was 5. I've always demanded that a cartoon should have a at least an interesting plot and/or some comedy. And cartoons (aswell as movies) about games and sports is one of the lamest ideas ever in the history of storytelling. Especially when there's no comedy.


There's quite a lot of comedy and plot in the Yu-gioh GX episodes I've seen.


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