The Dino-Aspie Ex-Café (for Those 40+... or feeling creaky)
Seen the Grand Canyon so many times I can't remember them all. It's always beautiful every time through.
Hey, I listen to a beautiful music radio station that comes out of Prescott. I used to listen to it when I went to bed on local radio.
Now I just listen to the web stream.
It's called KAHM.
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I just finished Stranger In A Strange Land.I have read many good books that have made me think or feel or laugh or???
But this one had me doing all and I can't seem to get back to my "this world"(Illusions had the same effect on me when I was 16).Anyone who groks this can you please comment on this thread or the one in general autism?I feel like I am near drowning with all the thoughts that are flooding in from this book.I need to grok them immediately because I "should" be..... writing more in the group bio,looking for a new job,calling my dentist for another root canal,getting new glasses,taking my "stuff" to the consignment store,listing items I have made for my Etsy store and other miscellany that requires more "guts" then thoughts.(oh yea of little guts<-me).Do I only "think" to avoid doing any real work.....?Philosophy and slacking certainly are compatable.
Grok talk topic
Wow, Krex, I envy you. You have just been grok grolled!
Funny, I have never read this book, but now I have got to get it. I have had that experience of being grokked. I go into character grok where I become the character and see things through their eyes, like the Vulcan mind meld. Perhaps every grokking experience is unique, depending on one's personality. I think it is akin to a hyper focus thing, and may be annoying trying to come out of character. This may well be what is happening to you right now. I have compassion for you, because you state you have to get back to work. This is a side effect/drawback to the grok experience. rest assured, you will shake it shortly.
I love to philosophize and slack.
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I just finished Stranger In A Strange Land.I have read many good books that have made me think or feel or laugh or???
But this one had me doing all and I can't seem to get back to my "this world"(Illusions had the same effect on me when I was 16).Anyone who groks this can you please comment on this thread or the one in general autism?I feel like I am near drowning with all the thoughts that are flooding in from this book.I need to grok them immediately because I "should" be..... writing more in the group bio,looking for a new job,calling my dentist for another root canal,getting new glasses,taking my "stuff" to the consignment store,listing items I have made for my Etsy store and other miscellany that requires more "guts" then thoughts.(oh yea of little guts<-me).Do I only "think" to avoid doing any real work.....?Philosophy and slacking certainly are compatable.
Okay, Krex, now that I understand what grok means thanks to Wikipedia:
“ Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed—to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science—and it means as little to us (because of our Earthly assumptions) as color means to a blind man.
What we resist persists. I would say just roll with it, baby.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWptXUblA4E[/youtube]
Thanks guys....
I just get so frustrated when an obsession gets it's teeth into me(I would rather bite then be biten).Since I learned about dealing with "addictions",I have managed to avoid getting pulled into the vortex(the first drink is to many)by just not starting anything I didnt have time to lose/find my "self" in but this caught me unaware(just like AS/WP and Etsy)at a very inconvenient time....
This to shall pass,I well know,but before or after I end up with no job?(I gave my notice for the beginning of April).
I strongly recommend that who ever hasn't read this book(or read it before learning about AS),read it.Then we shall grok together and it will be a goodness,water brothers.
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I read it as a child (7 or
and remember realizing that I was not "getting it" and would have to re-read it when I was older. When I reread it, I took it to heart that "the different are persecuted on all sides, regardless of what is right or wrong" and that helped me get thru school, just knowing that.
And because of my love of quantum physics, I have always believed that we are "Gods of are own World" We are the "Observer" therefore we create our own realities by deciding which proabilities we let it collapse on. (Does that make any sense?
probably not.I remember when I was watching "Natural Born Killers" and Mickey and Mallory are getting married on the bridge and Mickey says "As God of My World" that tripped me out a little)
I definitely Grok you Krex
Hope the store is going well for you. Haven't gotten around to mailing those patterns yet, (mini-reika is SICK and out of school this week) She loves the drums and is laying on the couch playing w/ "Furby" right now while watching "The Wonder Pets" (They're cute, but I'm sick of them already, and she's been relentless in her repetition of them.)
I told my Boss about the little fake dog and now he wants to see him (which means he wants me to leave it in the restaraunt to freak people out
) He's laying on the back of my couch right now. I'm the only one who appreciates him here through so I may put him on one of the shelves behind the bar so noone can mess with him. I would put him by the fireplace, (that would look SO perfect) but am afraid someone whould steal him. I'm proud to have been your first customer also. The first of MANY!! ! ![]()
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Did I dream this belief, or did I believe this dream?
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If only closed minds came with closed mouths. Lau: "But where would they put their feet?" Postpaleo: "Up their ass."
When I typed 7 or 8 , eight comes out as a smiley face, even after trying to edit it, it still comes out as a smiley face. Why I wonder? Gonna check 888
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Did I dream this belief, or did I believe this dream?
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If only closed minds came with closed mouths. Lau: "But where would they put their feet?" Postpaleo: "Up their ass."
When you have grokked its fullness, you will keep the lessons you need, and discard the rest, friend Krex. It troubles you now only because you are still drinking of it.
Share water!
(Amusingly, I discovered earlier today that the autocorrect mechanism in Firefox doesn't recognize the word "carbuerator", no matter how I spell it, but it seems to have no problem with "grokked". Was this browser in fact constructed by a High One?) ![]()
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Sodium is a metal that reacts explosively when exposed to water. Chlorine is a gas that'll kill you dead in moments. Together they make my fries taste good.
I grok you speak truth brother deacon.I just wish I had the privilege he had to swallow my tongue and lay at the bottom of a pool until I could grok fuller.Thou are God...how shocking that must have been when it first came out in print.
Reika....I think as a very literal aspie,it is a good thing that I did not read this book when I was that age.I had enough problems with Christian Science belief that this material world was all an illusion...(that messed with my head a bit because it FELT so true)I noticed Heinlein mentioned Christian Science several times in the book and wondered what influence that had on his writing.
I'm glad your daughter likes her new friends
.I have done nothing to my store the past few weeks but I have made several new hings I plan on listing....eventually.The more I "should" do,the less gets done...is that some law of physics?
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http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/articles/strange_land
While searching for Heinlein aspergers realted links I stumbeled over this article about adult aspergers that I thought was really well written.
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Just because one plane is flying out of formation, doesn't mean the formation is on course....R.D.Lang
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Reika... you can "Disable Smilies.." or "Quote" this to see how I do
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Deacon... the word you may be after is carburettor.
Krex... here's Lau, grokking since 1961. You may like Samuel R. Delany.
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Deacon... the word you may be after is carburettor.
Krex... here's Lau, grokking since 1961. You may like Samuel R. Delany.
It's been a while since I read Delaney....I read "Nova" back in the early eighties started on "Triton" but didn't
get very far. One of these days I'll dig around at the York Emporium and see what I can find. Last I remember he won four
nebula awards for his fiction.
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I just finished Stranger In A Strange Land.I have read many good books that have made me think or feel or laugh or???
But this one had me doing all and I can't seem to get back to my "this world"(Illusions had the same effect on me when I was 16).Anyone who groks this can you please comment on this thread or the one in general autism?I feel like I am near drowning with all the thoughts that are flooding in from this book.I need to grok them immediately because I "should" be..... writing more in the group bio,looking for a new job,calling my dentist for another root canal,getting new glasses,taking my "stuff" to the consignment store,listing items I have made for my Etsy store and other miscellany that requires more "guts" then thoughts.(oh yea of little guts<-me).Do I only "think" to avoid doing any real work.....?Philosophy and slacking certainly are compatable.
Yes, Krex, I can relate! I recently started reading that, and would frequently have to take a break from reading it, because I needed to grok it in all its fullness. I could so strongly feel everything that Michael could! Plus, I think the term "grok" is awesome. A truly astounding book.
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I just finished Stranger In A Strange Land.I have read many good books that have made me think or feel or laugh or???
But this one had me doing all and I can't seem to get back to my "this world"(Illusions had the same effect on me when I was 16).Anyone who groks this can you please comment on this thread or the one in general autism?I feel like I am near drowning with all the thoughts that are flooding in from this book.I need to grok them immediately because I "should" be..... writing more in the group bio,looking for a new job,calling my dentist for another root canal,getting new glasses,taking my "stuff" to the consignment store,listing items I have made for my Etsy store and other miscellany that requires more "guts" then thoughts.(oh yea of little guts<-me).Do I only "think" to avoid doing any real work.....?Philosophy and slacking certainly are compatable.
Yes, Krex, I can relate! I recently started reading that, and would frequently have to take a break from reading it, because I needed to grok it in all its fullness. I could so strongly feel everything that Michael could! Plus, I think the term "grok" is awesome. A truly astounding book.
yeah, Michael Valentine Smith was the Obama of his day!
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