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DeaconBlues
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20 Mar 2008, 5:11 pm

One more datum required for a full analysis, Nan: Assuming our hypothetical person keeps her current position, how many more years would she have to work in that capacity before you- er, I mean she, could retire?

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20 Mar 2008, 5:21 pm

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On the flip side, you could increase your retirement income by several hundred dollars a month by working at this job for three years and then retiring. Which working at this job would allow you to do in three years.

This would be mighty tempting, Nan. Several hundred dollars a month increase in retirement benefits would sure come in handy. If you have good medical benefits you could start seeing a shrink to off-set or keep the stress in line as it is happening, or massage therapy. I think you, er, that hypothetical person should go for it.

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20 Mar 2008, 5:24 pm

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"She" can retire at any time, if she could sell her house and get enough profit out of it to either pay for or make a significant payment on another, elsewhere. (Unfortunately, the said house she can't actually give away for what's owed on it, at present.) It's a matter of how much income "she'd" have. At present, "she" can take her health benefits with her, but has to pay for 40% of the cost. Which would be about a $450 a month hit to the checking account. "She" at present would only get a pension of about $550 a month. If she retired and then got another job elsewhere that had health benefits, "she" could just let "her" pension make the payment on a small home elsewhere or go into savings. (The amount of the pension will go up, if "she" stayed at her present job, by about $50 a month for each additional year worked until full government social security retirement age, in about 15 years. That is, after this time next year her monthly income would be $600, the year after that, $650, etc. At 67.5 years old, social security, if it still exists, would kick in as well. The pension is based on the highest three years of compensation - so, the manager job pays more, the pension increases proportionally.)

Taking a retirement at anything less than full government retirement age (67.5 years old) assumes that "she'd" be working somewhere else, doing something she'd much rather do. At either the same, higher, or lower pay, either part or full time. Assuming a job could be had in the current economic climate. This last bit is a rather critical variable, at present. As is what the inflation rate might turn into over the next few years.

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20 Mar 2008, 6:30 pm

funny link krex,
i liked the ahh now i don't remember no more (it were some kind of glowing balls that people spinned and which created light shapes)

a movie that just came out in belguim
it's about the autistic sister of the french actrice sandrine bonnaire,
it is so scary, and makes me remember how close i have been to the same treatment

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1031928/

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20 Mar 2008, 7:10 pm

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Is it my imagination or are you getting blue in the face lau?

It's all Quatermass's'es's fault

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20 Mar 2008, 7:16 pm

Nan wrote:

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Hypothetically, I think she knows what her hypothetical friend thinks.

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20 Mar 2008, 7:36 pm

lemon wrote:

a movie that just came out in belguim
it's about the autistic sister of the french actrice sandrine bonnaire,
it is so scary, and makes me remember how close i have been to the same treatment

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1031928/

After some searching, I managed to find
Sandrine Bonnaire’s Letter of Intent.

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20 Mar 2008, 7:48 pm

It's been a very emotional day. I've spent most of it watching old home movies that my dad took from 1944 - 1976. I was fortunate to have these two beautiful people for parents. Their love for me and my brothers & sister is so apparent in the old movies that I feel I owe them not only enormous gratitude, but an apology for ever thinking that they were anything less than the loving and devoted parents that they were. I had never seen many of those films before and they had a very powerful and positive effect on me.

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20 Mar 2008, 7:50 pm

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I am always impressed by the group wisdom of the cafe. I was thinking of this yesterday when Carol received the first posts here about R.

"Wise owls!" I thought. "Aha! A parliament of owls!"

I think this group would defy the current literature on aspergers and socialisation. We are so strong and wise as a group. We are a family!.

Well, thank you, but part of me thinks all the Aspies on WP defy that part of the literature.

Kind of like it assumes that just because we percieve the world in a different way we have no idea what's going on.

I think it's an easy assumption to make for an NT and a hard one to prove wrong for an AS.

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20 Mar 2008, 7:54 pm

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DeaconBlues, if you go to another place, surely you can contact us through cyberspace!

That would be a great concept for a novel. A dead person tries to reach his friends through cyberspace.

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20 Mar 2008, 8:01 pm

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Ok. "Hypothetical Situation" here:

Saaaay.... that you've been working in a job for several years, doing well enough in it to receive very good annual evaluations. It is pretty independent, relatively easy, "not too bad" as jobs go. There are days when you stick pins in the voodoo doll of the ego-of-the-moment client, but you have good coworkers.

You receive a phone call from another division in your organization one morning. They are looking for a personnel manager and have asked you to apply for the job. You can do easily about 1/2 the job tasks. Of the remaining, most are things you can pick up "on the fly" quickly with reasonable confidence of success. There are three major stumbling blocks to telling them you are interested:

1) You would be supervising several people (cue Aspie interpersonal skills, which aren't all that great, and a horror of supervising others)
2) You would be having to work heavily with budgets. Which you have done in the past, but which are an absolute misery as you have no sense of numbers.
3) While the pay would increase somewhat, and while it would be a promotion to a higher job grade, there would be a lot of stress involved (inherent in the job and also from the Aspie aspect of things).

On the flip side, you could increase your retirement income by several hundred dollars a month by working at this job for three years and then retiring. Which working at this job would allow you to do in three years.

Given that this is outside your "comfort zone" envelope by at least a mile, would you:

* formally apply for the position

or

* send them a nice, polite email thanking them for thinking of you but stating that you are not ready to move up the ladder at this point? (Which might kill your chances of moving up it again for a very long time.)

Personally, I would try it, check it out.

Then if I cannot handle it, I would let my supervisor know and tell him why and ask for my old job back.

It is a good problem to have, though.

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20 Mar 2008, 8:07 pm

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CC that seems really sweet.

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20 Mar 2008, 8:32 pm

Thats a nice feeling to have CC. I recall when I first got sober and realized that my parents weren't "monsters".They did a lot of nice things for us kids(horse camp,art classes,long family vacations).It was nice to not have to think of myself as some kind of "victem" as the theripists seemed to always stress.(Your mom was really a knockout too.)

Nan.....3 years goes so fast at "our" age. Perhaps a new challenge is exactly what you need? I would talk to them about the possibility of a trial period where either side could decide it was not a good fit and allow you to return to your previous position(or one with the same pay,etc) I would think this would be to their benefit as well?

Whatever you decide,I wish you luck.

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20 Mar 2008, 8:34 pm

Parliament of owls! The Dino-Aspies should make this...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AceNg5WrF9I[/youtube]
... our theme song. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sartresue, I have to confess that digital imaging programs are my dear friend when it comes to solving mazes. I open Lau's avatar in good old MS Paint, and change the view to 6X or 8X so it's easier to see. Then I pick a nice loud colour (magenta works well) and use the pencil tool to start tracing a path through the maze. Whenever I come to a fork in the road, and there are no obvious dead ends, I switch to another colour and use the bucket-fill tool to see which pathway goes to the exit. Continue until finished. (For the round maze, I deleted all the black walls and "borrowed" one of those nice bluey-green skin tones from Lau's face for the completed path.) Then change the view to 2X, hit "Print Screen", crop the pic and save.

What can I say, it's more fun than cleaning the house.

Speaking of underoxygenation, that reminds me of a time when I was in Year 7, and was trying to impress some classmates at recess with my breath-holding prowess, and I passed out on the floor - to everyone's amazement, not least my own. :lol:

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20 Mar 2008, 9:00 pm

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...Sartresue, I have to confess that digital imaging programs are my dear friend when it comes to solving mazes...

Ah, but I cheat in a more cheat-full way...
For this particular maze drawing, chop a route to the outside, through the wall beside the red/green dots. Then "fill" the left set of "walls" with one colour and the right set with another (just for confirmation that there are no "islands").
You now have the route easily visible.
Next do a bit of judicious extra blocking off of passageways, and filling chunks of sealed off areas. Eventually, you'll just be left with the solution.

PS. MS Paint doesn't handle transparent?

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20 Mar 2008, 9:02 pm

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nannarob wrote:

Can you please clarify what you mean, Morning_after? I can't see any implication in my post that an aspie can't see 'what's going on.'

What do you mean by 'What's going on?"

One thing that I am surprised at is that you pick up implications. I have learnt not to imply anything since I started posting here because I find that few, if any aspies can pick up implications. In fact I am continually told by my friends that they can't do subtle and only straight talk works.

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