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30 Apr 2008, 5:02 pm

I know firsthand of some people who got bad acid. One guy, a family member, never came back from that trip. He lost his wife, his five kids, his house and his farm, not to mention his mind. The other two cases resulted in suicide by hanging and by jumping out a window. I would never recommend it to anyone. I never tried LSD myself, but still I would say "stay away from major mind altering drugs." This is not a moral judgement. I don't think you have to have "been there, done that" yourself to take a stand against or discount drug use. I too would be interested to know how or what LSD has contributed to the health and well being of mankind.



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30 Apr 2008, 5:22 pm

Reading and sympathising...

...can'd spell commiserating...

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I think there must be some chronic learning disability that is so prevalent among NT's that it goes unnoticed by the "experts". Krex


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30 Apr 2008, 6:37 pm

It's been awhile but I got a word stuck in my head today..."umbrage"...spent an hour using it in various sentences with different accents..."daddy, could you please pass me some of that boiled Umbrage...I got me a hankering something fierce for umbrage today"<----Southern Missouri.


I thought it meant "outrage" or somehing that somene would take offense and disagree with???"I take umbridge with that comment"...

anyone care to inlighten me before I go wikki it?

LSD...made me feel more a part of the universe and like it wasn't such a bad place...I felt a part of it for the first time. So that is what it did for me. I decided to stop using it because the last two times I took it I could not "come down" without going to the ER and begging for anti-psychotics...a week on those, or time itself...seemed to cure the acid hang-over,(I was actually having difficulty figuring out how to dress myself,etc...scary. DR said...some people never come back, might want to consider that before you take your next hit...I considered. It was a nice place to visit but I wasn't ready to live there(and have someone dress me for the rest of my life...then gain...some people still don't think I can dress myself :wink:

DR went much better because my expectations were soooo low. I didn't bring up any issues and said everything was fine please ive me more of the stuff you have been giving me. Then they took my bllod. I did ask if they could do the Free T3/freeT4 test and they said....no. TSH only, if that is abnormal then we can conssider that...it's been abnormal many times...that is why they keep increasing my dose. Oh well, it was at least expected and no tears were shed.

I treated myself with several hours of rock hunting....found some great agates in the CVS parking lot islands(they use decorative rock from Duluth and since I can't afford to drive up there...it was ver nice of them to bring them down here for me :lol:


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30 Apr 2008, 8:03 pm

krex wrote:
It's been awhile but I got a word stuck in my head today..."umbrage"...spent an hour using it in various sentences with different accents..."daddy, could you please pass me some of that boiled Umbrage...I got me a hankering something fierce for umbrage today"<----Southern Missouri.


:lol:


krex wrote:
I thought it meant "outrage" or somehing that somene would take offense and disagree with???"I take umbridge with that comment"...

anyone care to inlighten me before I go wikki it?


It means several things, but the context you guessed at, is correct. To take extreme offense at something or someone.

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I treated myself with several hours of rock hunting....found some great agates in the CVS parking lot islands(they use decorative rock from Duluth and since I can't afford to drive up there...it was ver nice of them to bring them down here for me :lol:


You sound so Aspie! :)


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30 Apr 2008, 8:06 pm

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1. Forming or affording a shade; shady; shaded; as, umbrageous trees or foliage. "Umbrageous grots and caves Of cool recess, o'er which the mantling vine Lays forth her purple grape." (Milton)

2. Not easily perceived, as if from being darkened or shaded; obscure.

3. Feeling jealousy or umbrage; taking, or disposed to take, umbrage; suspicious. Umbra"geously, Umbra"geousness.

Origin: Cf. F. Ombraqeux shy, skittish, suspicious, in OF. Also, shady. See Umbrage.

Source: Websters Dictionary


I guess this is where comments like "She's kind of shady" come from. A mixture of 1, 2 & 3.



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30 Apr 2008, 8:22 pm

Thanks...so it's not that your offended but suspecious of motive.

Sure does sound like a word that would be good steamed and spread with some melted butter...then again...what wouldn't. One of the things I love about rock hunting is talking to myself...I find me vastly amusing :wink:

I was also thinking about how some have speculated how aspie focus was a survival skill through-out history. I was thinking...it was a good thing that there weren't any sabor toothed tigers near by or I would have been eaten before I got thsese cool rocks back to my polisher.

Funny but true...a teenager saw me looking through the rocks and said..."Are you an arcitect or just looking at rocks?" 8O That had me stumped for a few seconds...I think that was when the word umbridge popped into my head


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30 Apr 2008, 9:56 pm

Umbrage:
1. offense: resentment or annoyance arising from some offense ("took umbrage")
2. giver of shade: something that gives shade, e.g. a tree (literary)

15th century < Old French < Latin umbra "shadow"

Word History: The Latin word umbra "shadow," from which umbrage is derived, is also the source of English adumbrate, penumbra, somber, sombrero, and umbrella.

(Source: MSN Encarta)

Answers.com adds a third definition:
3. A vague or indistinct indication; a hint.

Dolores Umbridge: character in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
"Dolor": Latin for pain, sorrow, grief
Umbridge: homonym for the English word "umbrage": to take offense, from Latin umbra



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30 Apr 2008, 10:58 pm

krex wrote:
Thanks...so it's not that your offended but suspecious of motive.

Sure does sound like a word that would be good steamed and spread with some melted butter...then again...what wouldn't. One of the things I love about rock hunting is talking to myself...I find me vastly amusing :wink:


Hey Krex; your post reminds me of how some native tribes in the american west treated the advancing whites. They often battled the settlers, wagon trains and the army. However, the natives usually left the geologists and prospectors alone.

As the natives often held people they felt were touched mentally in high reverence, and anybody who collected rocks all day must be touched, they let the rockers be.

Having collected rocks most my life, including working as a geologist, I totally agree with the natives viewpoint.



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01 May 2008, 1:03 am

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He had a long life, and I commend him for his wonderful discovery

it was my favorite thing in this life.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/29/hofman ... index.html

RIP Dr Albert Hoffman


I didn't know he was still around....I remember psychiatrist John C. Lilly using this in conjunction with an Isolation tank
combining trips with sensory deprivation and of course there is Stanislav Grof
who is using hallucinogenics to "map" consciousness and perinatal and perithanatic experiences. As for myself I dabbled with
psilocybin mushrooms and peyote buttons but not LSD-25.


yes, lysergic acid diethylamide-25 was all you could get in the beginning.

some interesting facts about medicinal useage. As Dr. Hoffman pointed out, usage out of the theraputic process was not his intention.

Introduced by Sandoz Laboratories as a drug with various psychiatric uses, LSD quickly became a therapeutic agent that appeared to show great promise. However, the extra-medicinal use of the drug in Western society during the mid-twentieth century led to a political firestorm that resulted in the banning of the substance. A number of organizations—including the Beckley Foundation, MAPS, Heffter Research Institute and the Albert Hofmann Foundation—exist to fund, encourage and coordinate research into its medicinal uses.

I have already posted about one of the founders of Alcoholics Anonymous being in the first trials of LSD-25 as they tried to use it as therapy for Alcoholism. Also Schizophrenia


I loved the macabre stories of the history of mass toxic 'poisoning' of whole villages in the middle ages from the basis of LSD-25, ergotamine tartrate from the mold or smut that grows on rye grain when the spring and summer is wet. Grinding and consuming the grain it grew on whole countrysides would get St. Anthony's Fire and dance (corea) and spasm hallucination and general chaos. The Romans and Greeks knew of the rye poisonings and didn't cultivate the grain as a culture. It was the Teutons, the spawn of Charlemagne that spread the rye grain over Europe and where there was rye there was St. Anthony's Fire.

here read about it yourself!
Cool old book with Ergotamine Poisoning Histories



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01 May 2008, 1:25 am

Whoa! 8O I was born and raised in rye-whiskey-drinkin' country! Thank you, Carolus Magnus! :D

Buddhist computer viruses.

THERAVADA TERROR (often packaged in a seemingly-innocuous file known as Bhikkhu.bug): Operates by giving ordination to your computer's CPU. While relatively harmless during the morning hours, this virus has the effect of making your computer refuse to intake or process any hard data after noon. (Female scholars need not be concerned about this virus, since female CPUs are not entitled to receive full ordination.)

MADHYAMAKA MONSTER: Systematically replaces all data on the hard drive by a bit having a value of not 1, not 0, not both 1 and 0, and not neither 1 nor 0. The screen goes entirely blank, and whenever the operator taps a key, an information box pops up saying, "There are no statements in this information box."

VIJNANAVADA VEXATION: Is the only known computer virus that has no effect whatsoever on your software. It does, however, make all the hardware and peripheral devices disappear, and convinces the software that there is no real distinction between a computer program and the data it processes. One extreme version of this viral scourge (also known as "Software Only") has the effect of making your software believe that it is the only software in the universe.

VAJRAYANA VIRUS: Attacks the computer's BIOS, causing the screen to emit a radiant clear light that beams directly into the operator's heart. The computer itself sustains no damage, but the operator's mind is transformed into mush with the inane message: "The passions themselves are enlightenment. Misinformation itself is data." The operator then is overwhelmed with a compulsive urge to upload billions of gigabytes'-worth of graphics displays of incomprehensible mandalas onto Web sites around the world, for the benefit of all sentient machines.

INDRAJALA INFECTION: Causes all sentient beings to be networked, all information to be replicated, and whenever any sentient being is removed from the network, neither it nor its previous context can be said to exist. (Also known as the "Ten Coins Terror.") Rumour has it that this was the by-product of a marketing slogan coined by a lama doing contract work for Sun Microsystems: "The network is the operator." Once this virus has infected any machine, everything is instantly affected, and it is no longer possible to conceive of the universe in the absence of the virus.

— attributed to Professor Richard P Hayes of McGill University, Canada



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01 May 2008, 1:40 am

what is 'rock hunting' ?
i get the image of rocks running away (with an amazing speed of course) and krex running after them, bow and arrow ready to use :lol:



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01 May 2008, 2:02 am

SleepyDragon wrote:
Whoa! 8O I was born and raised in rye-whiskey-drinkin' country! Thank you, Carolus Magnus! :D

Buddhist computer viruses.



there was an outbreak of St. Anthony's Fire in Kentucky in the 1800's among that rye whisky makin', too!

by the way:



Computer Virus!
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You have just received the Amish virus.

Since we have no electricity or computers, thee art on the honor system.

Please delete all of thee's files on thee's hard drive. Then forward this message to everyone in thee's address book.

We thank thee.



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01 May 2008, 2:03 am

lemon wrote:
what is 'rock hunting' ?
i get the image of rocks running away (with an amazing speed of course) and krex running after them, bow and arrow ready to use :lol:

:D

Here's something new from Google: artist themes. "Now you can put the work of world-class artists and innovators on your personalised Google homepage."

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You can get The Wiggles if you want 'em!



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SleepyDragon wrote:
lemon wrote:
what is 'rock hunting' ?
i get the image of rocks running away (with an amazing speed of course) and krex running after them, bow and arrow ready to use :lol:

:D

Here's something new from Google: artist themes. "Now you can put the work of world-class artists and innovators on your personalised Google homepage."

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You can get The Wiggles if you want 'em!


I use igoogle!

and I have two more posts until I have 5,000!



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01 May 2008, 3:18 am

Having collected rocks most my life, including working as a geologist, I totally agree with the natives viewpoint.[/quote]


I wish I had stuck with the sciences (instead of psychology), I think my dyslexia or some related reading issue made those long scientific words to over whelming...alphabit soup. I have loved rocks since I was old enough to crawl up to one. I think they are "Art". So many textures,colors,shapes, transparencies,layers....(tastes and smells too). I wish I had my own trained geologist to carry about and tell me what each of them is made of and how. I have tried reading and looking at pictures but it's not the right kind of learning for me. The only club I ever considered joining was rocking clubs....I've never known anyone else who could spend all day on their hands and knees picking through rocks but I know they are out there....maybe some day I will get up the courage.

What kind of rock collections or favorite minerals do you have...Is there a web site you go to that has some good pictures and info? I live in Minnesota and think it is one of the best places to hunt...so much diversity here and I want to learn to nap flint, so I need to be able to identify the best pieces. As a kid I found it very confusing that no one else seemed to be interested in the rocks I collected 8O but Barbie dolls were cool????


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01 May 2008, 3:19 am

Merle......Congrats on the nearly 5000.....(perhaps you didn't get the memo....autistics don't like to socialize and can't communicate :wink: )


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