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Does my humor offend you?
Yes, GTFO 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
No, I'll tolerate it because I know you'll listen to my problems 25%  25%  [ 6 ]
No, but don't push your luck 21%  21%  [ 5 ]
No, you're decently amusing 50%  50%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 24

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15 Apr 2008, 9:39 pm

krex wrote:
Sorry, I guess I forgot that you couldn't see the picture in my head when I was stating the above......

No, that's what confused me; I couldn't figure out the parakeet and the lumbar support business.

krex wrote:
Once upon a time, in a nightmare not to far away,

Too funny.

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I do not believe that autistics have no compassion for others.... I believe we have to much and have to try and deaden ourselves to survive the assault of human cruelty we are exposed to daily. It's just another form of "sensitivity" that has no know "organ of origin" (but is described in some world spiritualism). I feel the same energy when I touch animals and rocks.

I can't discount ... anything. Early traumatic memory is climbing up my windowsill to peek out the window and 'reaching' out to a stand of three trees to 'know' them ... and ... OMG! NO! They can't feel me! That was impossible, because they couldn't feel my love, and how could they be that alone?? Evidently, I didn't know that I could 'reach' myself out to trees, so I just did it.

I don't feel like being careful when I know something; I just say "I know..." I don't use "believe" too much anymore, because I don't care what I believe. I don't use "think" unless I really mean "intelectually suspect".
so I just say "I know..." now, and I don't bother with modesty. 'Cause, after all, I know... ;)

I don't believe ... I know that Autistics have not only more compassion than humans, but are truely capable of real empathy - to some extent or another. Empathy is by scientific standards impossible, yet I have it. So, evidently, do you.

I don't care whatsoever what humans say or think or believe (I don't even care what I believe, never mind what humans want to believe). I know. You know. We know.

Yes, we have too much compassion, and I have wished that I could simply not care anymore, because it just hurts too much, and I get nothing for it. But I'm not the type of person to resign myself, I guess.

The conflict I would get into is that I would say that you know, not just believe. Yes, we have to deaden ourselves to survive the assault of human cruelty that we are, and they are, exposed to daily. They're brutal, and don't know how to stop. They don't even know they're the ones doing it. They all say it's that other person, over there. Humans deaden themselves, too; but they do all the damaging even when dead.

It took a lot of time to revitalize myself. I went dead a long time, once, in a nightmare not so long ago.

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I was DXed with Aspergers not LFA and not even that until I was 42

Oh, gadzooks; you fandangled me when I was a n00b here with my very first post. Again, I've only known one LFA, and you're not at all like him. I guess that's why...
I'll let it slide this time, but the next time I make my first post here I won't be so forgiving :evil:

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There are more things in heaven and earth then ever dreamed of in their philosophy/psychology...(or some such.)

"Their."
I'll use "think" here. I think we (all) can and should begin to dispense with "them". I think it's time to cut loose from "them" and forget about "them". I think it's time that we (all) have confidence in our knowledge of ourselves and no longer concede a benefit-of-the-doubt to "them".
I think it is time that we (all) refuse to be victims of "them" and just no longer concern ourselves with "them" that much anymore ... because look what we can do.
I don't think we (all) need "them" anymore.
I know I don't. You're at least my age, and I've had plenty of enough of far too many helpings of "them". At 45yo, I'm completely ready to dismiss "them" for what I know them to be - and get on with a much more positive and wonderful and potential-packed stance that is "we".

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As far as being the "next wave"....only time will tell.

I'll use "think" here again.
I think that we will determine and tell that by no longer waiting for ourselves to do what we can do.
I have talked enough in my life; I am ready to do, now.
There's a lot to do.
We can help humans understand themselves. I started a train of thought a few years ago, based on sociopaths, that became a science which I entitled "Anthroponomy". I have all the domains, so I can assume it's not being used elsewhere. No site up yet, because it's a massive undertaking, and I don't feel comfortable with one person doing it. By its nature, it is a collective endeavor. Normally, I don't have any problems making definitive statements ... when I know they're definitive. But I don't have any with anthroponomy; just the basis - and even that needs to go through a collective 'quality control' before going any further.
It's too big and too important for one person, and I don't have a vested ego-interest in making lots of mistakes because of my vested ego-interest. There's no room for mistakes or beliefs or what anyone wants to be true. It just has to be 100% accurate and perfect. I'm good ... but sustaining 100% perfection - may, just - be a little bit more than I can handle.

There are immediate things that can be done which can have a dramatic impact on everything. If we can't do it, nobody can - and if we don't do it, nobody will.
That one I will say I "know" to.

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Survival of the fittest often seems survival of the least compassionate and most self delusional. If the environment is going to change to favor our attributes, I certainly have missed the evidence of it. I think the odds are better that the space ship will land and take me home(no, I am not being sarcastic). I hope I am wrong because I think we would be nicer to the animals, planet and each other and I like this planet. Ridding it of parasites is a daunting task and I don't personally believe all NT's are parasites...I believe ignorance is.

I don't think that Nature's "survival of the fittest" is appropriate for this planet any longer. I don't think this planet can afford that, at all. This planet cannot afford it in any way, not in a speciel way, not in a capitalistic economic way, just not at all. Civilization does not accord itself with that kind of brutality, and this world is pretty beaten up already.
I don't advocate survival of the fittest; I merely make reference to it, as that is the means by which Nature works. But that doesn't mean that we have to operate on that principle. Humans operate on that principle everyday with a capitalistic economy. It is destroying this planet and taking us along with it.

I suspect a misinterpretation; I am not at all a fan of survival of the fittest. That needs to be outright outlawed :)
We certainly do not engage in survival of the fittest. Autistics with clubs and "Thus Spake Zarathustra" playing in the background and a monolith projecting images of how to whack humans in the temple.
Yeah...
Daunting, indeed.

Helping humans kill humans better and faster ... and with better reasons ... is one possibility.
But that's not an Autistic possibility. I don't see Autistics gathering to embark on that.
Autism is teaching humans about themselves and helping them learn what they need to do to survive (so we can survive, too), and showing them how to share the planet with themselves and us ... and how and why that's not such a bad thing after all.

But that won't happen if we wait and see if time will tell. Because I can tell you definitively what time will tell if we do that; that one is a no-brainer ... Really a no-brainer, to the tune of "Thus Spake Zarathustra."

Well, I'll stop before my head explodes.

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15 Apr 2008, 9:56 pm

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Some are amazed by my attention to detail and memory. They are always saying how you do that?
My superpower is I've fixed radios and small appliances when I have no idea what I'm doing, I just look for patterns, and if they don't make sense, fix it, and 95% of the time its fixed.

That sounds suspiciously like a spatial-relations, right-hemisphere-o-the-brain giftedness.
They have a standardized test to isolate spatial-relations IQ (everyone has two hemispheres of the brain, so everyone actually really has two, separate IQ's) where you place blocks together and form different patterns and do puzzles and such. It's completely accurate.
It makes perfect sense (to me) that there would be a significantly higher amount of spatial-relation genius in the AS populace than in the human populace, where it's actually very rare.

If you have that, you just 'know' things, and they don't know how - but all they know is that you can just 'know' things. It's the closest thing to pure impossible magic. My official numerical score on that standardized test is " ... way up here somewhere," which I received at 17yo, to my perplexment. I've been trying to get an actual number ever since.

That's how I play chess and scrabble. I make pretty patterns. I don't think, because that's painful and hurts my brain. I just make pretty patterns. I don't think anymore with my left hemisphere; that hurts and is really slow, so it hurts even more because of how slow it is. I just make pretty patterns and just 'know' things, to everyone's amazement and applause of fine approval - and then they all raise me up on their shoulders and march me about the neighborhood, singing ".... and he's a jolly good fellow..."

It's really cool.


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16 Apr 2008, 12:31 am

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im pretty good at knowing stuff no one else does. however im crap at maths and science, but really good at philosophy and english and the like, so maybe some difference.


Whew! I'm so glad that there's another aspie out there who isn't math/science oriented.

Krex and Archetype, you have indirectly proven to me that 1) I do not write the most long winded answers. 2) I am wasting my prized, malleable focus talent memorizing routes through video games. I really should think about setting my mind loose on the universe... (after I finish procrastinating.)


I'll add a bit later once I've reread everything here again. Ty all for the welcome.


[Beginning of the Edit]: (I'll go back later and add appropriate quotes)

Arch,
You were right to say I am pretty young as well as new to realizing I have AS. I'm not even in college yet, still slogging through the nightmare years.
I thoroughly envy your spatial powers, as my only current weakness is orienting and relating things to a graph. I hope the realm of power you've tapped into is open to a wider sortie of aspies, for although I am decent with puzzles, I doubt that I have your particular affinity to numbers. I'd have to guess mine affinity is with letters. Anagrams, puns, and general wordplay is my cup of tea.

I prefer Hyperboles to Hyperbolas, ellipses (...) to ellipses, and
I am most certainly better off with etimologies (word roots) than square roots.

(I was going to turn this into a lymric, but I used my last one up on my English Homework. I hope you don't mind.)



You think having other people trying to change you is bad? My self loathing and quests for self-improvement could have been the death of me. I don't know how many Aspies have forced themselves to take theatre before, but when you suddenly realize you're alone on stage in front of 300 people, and they're all expecting you to entertain them, you start to wonder how much worse hell could be.
But maybe we dont go to hell. Maybe Hell is only for humans.
I agree with Arch that we're definitely at a higher lvl than humans, although now and again we stoop to their level.

It never occurred to me before now that empathy was a term created by NTs, and that my apparent lack of pity for their shallow quandries reflects no defficiency: only reason.

This artificial personality you mention... is very familiar to me. Long before I knew what AS was, I was suspicious that I was schitzo. My AS symptoms are divided between the two: one mask for 1on1, another mask for 1onWorld. I always referred to them as masks because I was aware when I was crafting new ones to fit the occasion.

I thought you might be interested, on the subject of super powers, that NTs are also able to slow down time and do supernatural things when they're up to it. They call it "moment of grace" or "opening yourself up to the universe" or "centered", (at least how that was how my theatre teacher was describing it.) The similiarities to what you described are uncanny. I also suspect it's the same sensation and ability since I'm far better at achieving it (probably the AS) than my teacher is, and can almost do it at will. ... I thought this was something NT, but it seems that does definitely count as an AS power.

Aha! I like the idea that confidence with yourself, and the ability to step outside the bounds of our artificial personality is the key to realizing our capabilities! On a conspiracy theory basis, this makes it frighteningly clear why NTs have to suppress and bully us so much: were we to develop a strong foundation of self-esteem at an early age, we would have way more access to our AS magic.
.......I'm thinking that this is bordering on scientology level conspiracy theorizing, so I'll just end for now my recommending the show 4400. There are strong parallels between your description of AS as evolutionary superiors and the show's overall theme.



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16 Apr 2008, 9:38 am

Welcome Pundit23! :)


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16 Apr 2008, 11:17 am

Hi!

How long have you been here? I don't recognize your name.

Because I don't know you that well, I voted, "No, but I'll tolerate it because I know you'll listen to my problems."


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16 Apr 2008, 3:52 pm

Pundit23...

Oh I get all giddy at the prospect of a good conspiracy. I think it is the way my brain likes to solve puzzles. It just feels sooo good. I do think that is something that many(all aspies) have that is missing from(many) NT brains? We get as much pleasure from learning and problem solving as they do from drinking an expensive wine(half of that pleasure is based on being able to feel superior to the swill drinkers...humans are funny :D )

This is my latest conspiracy based on the concept that humans are not stupid,(even though all evidence points to a contrary belief)...the flaw could be that they really are that stupid but I like to play devils advocate with myself.

Lets say(theory)...there is a group of people who have a lot of money, power, influence and being (insane) are not sated because those things are like drugs...you build up a tolerance and just need more to get to the same "high". Well, this group of people have long read of the good old days of royalty and serfs...sounds good to them. Why not try and create something along those lines in America? How to best go about something like that in the modern day of information freedom and education? Well if the goal is to create a subspecies of drones who will do your manuel work for you and continue to provide you wealth and yet not rebel against being treated a sub-human you have to create just the right gestalt.(read "Brave New World" and "1984" and "The Wanting Seed" and goggle anti-utopia to get similiar books)


The best environment is to continue to allow access to learning and education BUT create and environment that condems(or aborts and labels deffective) people who like to read, learn, question authority and "group think", doesn't get self-esteem from the things they wear, car they drive or the resturants they eat in. Convince the less intellegent, that these "weirdos" are brain defective or mentaly ill(someone have a stake and a match?).....Make sure that you give these drones plenty of mindless entertainment(this is key) and that this is the meaning of life...to work hard and spend their money from working hard on "things" to entertain/amuse/destract/impress their peers. You don't want them to realize that they are "wage/product slaves" so you can allow a few "rebels" to have some "causes" like "feed the hungry/save the plaent" as long as these causes don't question the values of you have spent s much time installing...."work and own" ,spend your time trying to look like super models by excercising,tanning, primping, buying (masks)make-up and following fashions. Who has time to read or think? Throw a little religion in there and family values as long as those things don't question what is important....a sense that "we" are the "better" and "they" are the sinners. Better to save the unborn then to worry about what to do to help them once they are here.


Ah, A brave new world is just a desire to return to the good old days.


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16 Apr 2008, 4:22 pm

I really wonder how long he's been here.


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I really wonder how long he's been here.


He joined April 7 .


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16 Apr 2008, 7:52 pm

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Hello World!

My third week knowing and my 13th post has given me the courage to come out and write the complete sentence "I have asperger's syndrome."

...wow, that actually felt really good.

Second order of business is to ask about the jolly good super power some people seem to think we with AS have.
Of the three people who know of my AS irl, my physics professor/advisor is asking when I'm going to go change the world. According to him, both Newton and Einstein had AS. Now he's trying to help me figure out how my current focuses can be applied into real world scenarios. He keeps looking at me as though I'm going to suddenly do magic.

Being a noob, and confidently diagnosed by 2 shrinks, I just have to ask the community: is there some final step to unlock these cool superpowers history says we have? Do I need to be sworn in, go on a quest, etc?

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Whether or not you're amused or insulted by my humor, I thank you all, as an anonymous AS, for providing a planet where I actually feel accepted.
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...And back to superpowers. For the last couple of days I've been trying to see if I can use my intense focus to do something other than beat games, level characters, finish anime seasons, and read books at blinding speeds. So far, I've crossed "talking with animals" off the list of possibilities. I'm still leaving the possibility of shooting fire from my hands in the maybe list, because that would be really cool (in that hot sorta way).
And reading books at blinding speeds isn't? XD



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16 Apr 2008, 8:33 pm

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Hello World!


Konichiwa!

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My third week knowing and my 13th post has given me the courage to come out and write the complete sentence "I have asperger's syndrome."


Thirteen is a bad bad number! getaway!

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He keeps looking at me as though I'm going to suddenly do magic.


Yeah, about that... You were supposed to get an acceptance letter from Hogwarts, but the owl got blown off course and ended up crashing into my sattilite dish during an episode of Eureka seveN. Needless to say, that owl never saw the light of day again.

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Being a noob, and confidently diagnosed by 2 shrinks, I just have to ask the community: is there some final step to unlock these cool superpowers history says we have? Do I need to be sworn in, go on a quest, etc?


Yes there is. Take the liver of a toad, bind it tight around your throat, stand naked in the full moon in a barrel of eel's eyes...

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Whether or not you're amused or insulted by my humor, I thank you all, as an anonymous AS, for providing a planet where I actually feel accepted.


No worries. And about the humor thing, if you havent noticed i've got it too... you're not alone

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...And back to superpowers. For the last couple of days I've been trying to see if I can use my intense focus to do something other than beat games, level characters, finish anime seasons, and read books at blinding speeds. So far, I've crossed "talking with animals" off the list of possibilities. I'm still leaving the possibility of shooting fire from my hands in the maybe list, because that would be really cool (in that hot sorta way).


As long as you're not that arsonist I saw on TV, we're cool...

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16 Apr 2008, 8:42 pm

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Hi all,

Here's a long post in my traditional style of long posts.

Ok, I have a spatial-relations IQ (right hemisphere of the brain) something fierce and ferocious, undefined and immeasurable, with an officlal number of "...way up here somewhere."

I received that score at 17yo, talking a battery of IQ and aptitude tests. The final S.R. IQ test problem was a four-piece abstract puzzle, which I solved while the tester opened his hand to place the pieces on the table. I reached my hands forward and took the pieces as he dumped them on the table and used two sets of fingers on each hand to manipulate the pieces together in one fluid motion .... before the tester was able to retract his hands. He only got to say, "This is a pu..."

...and it was already done.

He sat there, in a state of shock for a while, his eyes wide open and his mouth hanging open ...literally ... and then - bang! - he snatched up his stopwatch in a really amazing blur and clicked it. He looked at the puzzle. Yes, it was still the and still completed. He looked at the puzzle for three seconds, then his stopwatch and clicked it again. I know he looked for three seconds because he picked up his pen, looked at his stopwatch again, and I saw him write '3 seconds' on his results sheet.

Later, around 31yo, I really wanted to know my spatial relations IQ. My general (or left-brain) IQ is 141. So I looked at high-IQ societies and the tests which scores they accepted for admissions. Every high-IQ society accpeted the spatial-relations test, "Space, Time, and Hysperspace" by noted test-maker and most offensive egotist, Paul Cooijmans. I wrote and asked for a copy of the test, which you have one month to return the answers to. The ceiling on this standing and world-wide acknowledged test was 212.

Unfortunately, I immediately saw some problems. One of the first question presupposed an academic aducation in geometry and the knowledge that half a circle ... and a straight line ... were both 180 degrees of angle. That does not belong on a spatial-relations test; that belongs on an SAT test.
More problems and difficulties and conflicts cropped up, and I eventually ended up invalidating 50% of the test. Within three days I had a stack of papers with logical proofs invalidating each of the corresponding questions.

Q: Which is correct: 6 steps to solution with seven equaly correct answers, or; 1 step to solution with a single correct answer? Or both sets of answers?
A: Whatever the test-maker's (and the test-scorer's) opinion is.

Like I care about the test-maker's opinion on an IQ test!! !

Anyhow, subsequently, each and every high-IQ society invalidated that test, and it no longer exists. I wonder how many people received a score on a 50% invalid test and were accepted in their high-IQ societies :P

So I don't have an IQ ... it's too high to be interpolated. That's a spatial-relations IQ. That's the entire right side of my brain. Everyone's brain. One-half of how people think.

So ... you might look into various aspects of intelligence, since there's much more to the field than a simple, single, left-hemisphere, general IQ. If you can chew through books like cotton candy, then you have something going on up in that cranium. If I never took that battery of tests when I was 17yo, I would have been befuddled (and I was befuddled at the time) as to how I could have an IQ of 141 and do the things I do.

Which brings us to: What can I do?

I can know everything.

I am capable of super-human physical feats.

I cannot be physically hurt.

I can slow time down and everyone else appears in slow motion, while I can have many thoughts per fraction-of-a-second ... yet my movements are in full-speed to me.

I cannot relate a number as to how many people I have seen with that same look on their face ... the wide eyes and open mouth of disbelief.

In fighting a group or gang of humans, I evidently do things people have never seen before, because everyone else (who's standing and can move) backs away, and if I walk toward them they keep backing away, and if I keep walking toward them they start running away from me. Happens every time.
This is me, at 38yo, in a ghetto, having been jumped by about 10 black dudes who were wanting to bash up some white guy and stomp him, after having an oak stick broken over my head (I head-butted it and broke it rather than letting it impact me at full force).

I was with some humans and we were crossing a very rocky and dangerous river. They were all in the water, essentially crawling across. It was the kind of river bed that you would break your shins on if you fell.
But, what I saw didn't seem fully 'human' to me (I didn't know I was AS at the time). It seemed much less than the possibility of a free human. So, I wanted to show them that there was more than being afraid, and I hopped across the river, jumping on top of the rocks and stones.
Except I didn't stop.
I kept leaping upstrem, from stone to stone.
I ran faster.
I let my fears go, and I let my mind go blank and empty.
I ran faster.
I knew each rock, every I set down on and then launched off from. Again, time slowed down, and I was able to understand just which rock to leap to next and just how to land my foot upon it so it wouldn't topple over. I was able to adjust my foot to keep the rock in place as I landed on it and as my weight came to bear fully down on each stone, and as I moved over thestone, and finally as I launched off of it to the next rock, using my toes - just before my foot left each rock - to stop it from tipping over with a slight pressure where needed.
I was running full speed, sprinting at full speed, up one of the most dangerous rivers you could imagine.
I was 27yo, then, on the island of Maui, in Hawaii.

No practiced athlete, no animal in the world, nothing on this planet could ever do that, what I did that day. I had never done anything similar, ever.
It is impossible to sprint full-speed up that river on those rocks and not even tip one over.

I was wearing flip-flops (or slippers, or thongs, or some other term, depending on your locale)

Super-powers.

Yes, I have super-human abilities, both physical and mental. Far in excess of human capabilities. There is no contest.

I fully see Bobby Fischer, Glenn Gould (generally acknowledged), and Monet as AS.

Super-powers? One teenager, Bobby Fischer, took one of the oldest games and re-invented it, that not all of human-kind, combined, could beat him. It is immensely difficult to get a win in chess; your opponenet can always go for a draw by a sacrifical trade-down move, leaving you with insufficient pieces for a check-mate. Bobby Fischer simply could not be contested, sweeping the entire human chess-playing populaceright off the board.

Mental.

In engineering school, I understood physics. Understood. I didn't have to memorize equations or write them on the inside cover of my calculator like everyone else; I simply completely understood Newtonian physics and could derive any equation I wanted to solve any problem there was. I still remember the only two equations I've ever had to memorize; the area of a circle and the circumference of a circle. I've forgotten them occassionally, and had to re-derive them.
I am not a mathematical savant by any means; but I understand the concept and the context of logical things, like creating algorithms for programming languages.
Physics was just natural to me. Easy, delightful, and effortless.

Yes, I can relate with aimals far better than humans. I can tell chipmunks that I'm not hungry, but satiated, and not interested in eating them by making various gestures and sounds; they will skittle right past me, 6 inches away, after I give them the 'all's ok'. Cats, dogs, cows, all resdpond well, and they are all great to get to know. I've recently come to really enjoy birds, and I really want to turn some area of my home into an aviary, but I rent, so I can't do that, and I would never keep a bird in a cage. The most viscious guard dogs are afraid of me, if I so choose; I am the alpha-male to them if I want to be. I heard a lot about pit bulls, and I tested one out a few years ago for the first time; a very different dog, indeed. I placed my face aside his and he was certainly dangerous, but didn't attack. I had to stop because the owner was freaking out.
Generally, I get this from pet-owners a lot:
"Oh my; I've never seen him act like that before!"

Homo-sapiens are animals, too, and I generally treat the nicer ones like pets (which sounds pretty pompous, I know ... but it's true. They need that, because humans are unable to A) understand their real needs, or B) meet their needs directly.

I can speak to a human primate and give them what I call "talk therapy", which consists of taking their constructed personality apart by pointing out their mechanical defense tactics in real time.

One very important difference I suspect (I only discovered I was AS late last summer) is that humans identify themselves with their personalities, while Autistics do not, but rather appear to adopt personalities to deal with and survive on this world. My 'personality' is far more flexible, adaptable, and fluid than the rigid and highly-defined personalities of humans.

The entire mental difference between myself and humans is very most significant; which is why I know that I am a different form of sentience than human. There is no question that I have Aspergers Syndrome, and there is no question that I am not human, and there is no question that I am a greatly superior to what I have come to refer to as "stupid human primates".

I say that because I've developed a little bit of bitterness toward them, having suffered at their hands for 45 years. They do it all to themselves as well, but they're more hateful and damaging to anything that might be different than them ... so I've had a harder time with them than their own kind have.

Another huge difference is that all human primates are - in the end - as hurtful as possible (which is why I, as well as other AS I've corresponded with, have a certain disdain for them). I did not create the term "human primate"; the woman who I was corresponding with that identified me as AS used that term later on, as well as the term "human monkey", and just plain "monkey".

"Human primate" is a very accurate term. Autistic is without question a higher form of sentient.

Because Autism has no personality, there are none of the accompanying detriments and problems which humans suffer from ... and make others suffer for.
Autistics do not have human guilt. They do not do the things that every human does to acquire such guilt, quite simply.
Because Autism lacks the rigid, constructed personality of humans, there is no inner conflict between the social personality and the selfish ego of humans, who each suffer from such conflict.
Although Autistics have highly strong personal preferences (I certainly do), there is a much easier ability to distinguish what is true from what one wants to be true, which all humans have difficulty with.

MOST IMPORTANT...

Humans cannot feel directly, but must feel through their constructed personalities, where-as AS can feel directly because we can step through our adopted personalities.
This is why AS is so freaked out by the word "love" and the statement, "I love you."
Humans cannot love directly, but can only ave the sentiment of a feeling like love. AS sees this and therefore questions the authenticity of 'love'.
But, the fact is that AS can love most fully, much more fully than humans can.
Likewise, As can feel everything directly, where-as humans can only feel the personality-sentiment of each feeling, and it is their personality, not their true selves which speak and react and feel emotions.

The abilty to feel directly, and not just through the construct of a personality, is, - in itelf - a super-power relative to humans.

MOTIVES and MORALITIES.

I used to have a quotable quote:

"Morality is a very poor substitute for true human feeling."

I guess I can keep that, because I don't appear to have any morality, but I do have ethics. The AS woman who identified me as AS (I'll call her Naj) has no moralities, either, although obviously has very excellent ethics and virtues.
All humans have moralities because they cannot feel directly and require an external - or intellectual - guidance. With AS, we can feel directly and require no external guidance.

As you may have seen, morality leads directly to guilt.
Human primates are chock full of guilt. Every one of them. You just look at them and its in their eyes, in the quiver of their voice, in everything they do and why they do it.

I would never, ever, ever wish to be human.

We AS need to begin to realize just how fortunate we are. We do not have the problems which plague human kind. Our problem IS humankind - and what they do to us and each other.

... and for me, that realization and understanding of myself and what is human is the very epitome of super-power. Free from all of that, we AS are free to be entirely full, fully conscious, aware of our own needs, and able to meet our needs directly.

Only human personalities require human social skills.

All human primate social skills are either defenses or indirect means of meeting their needs - which, by the very fact of the indirectivity, means it is unsuccessful. No human primate can feel directly, as this would mean they would have to disassociate from their personality - which is devastating to them.

Human primates have a whopper of a subconscious. I will say that the subconscious has all the pain a person has ever felt - and not felt, or denied, or made rationales about all waiting there, as potent as when it was first induced. That's a lot of pain, and my own subconscious 'came undone' or came 'uncorked' as it's said last summer. The pain was overwhelming and unbearable and it all hit right in my heart. It was like an ocean trying to pass itself through a drinking straw. I was on my kitchen floor, paralyzed with utter pain that just wouldn't stop, and I didn't know if I was going to survive. It kept coming; wave after wave. Everytime it just did me in; on the floor, tears and drool and nose running into a giant pool (not pretty, but that's what happens with it), unable to move, barely able to breathe, hoping I would survive. I had a good sense of humor about the matter because I knew what was happening, though, and in-between waves, I would say things like;

"Hi, my name is Richard and I'd like to welcome myself to the Human race after 44 years of being here." (before I knew I was AS)

or;

"Oh, so that's what everyone's so afraid of. I was always wondering why everyone was so afaid of being wrong. Now I know."

(ok, so I talk to myself ... especially in highly emotional circumstances)

Later ... actually about a couple months ago (about 9 months later), I realized something immensely important; I did not feel the pain of guilt.
I was not in any way in control of what was going on. Yet there was no guilt. The pain I see in others I did not feel.
OMG!
I do not think that AS have human guilt.
I do not see it in myself, nor do I see it or feel it in any writing any AS do. Yet it is pervasive in humans, and in everything they do and write.
I do not believe that a human can survive their own subconscious. The pain I received in life, and which everyone receives, is enough that you question your own survival. What I cannot imagine is what would happen if you add the average human guilt to that pain.

Super-Power (speculative):
AS can survive their subconscious to become clear and clarified, where-as no human can.

We AS do not require human social skills because we develop personalities only to co-exist in a human primate world. Humans require constructed, mechanical, two-dimensional personalities in order to survive and keep hidden their own subconscious.
This isn't the Wrong Planet ... this is our planet.
Human primates are on the wrong planet; Nature has decreed that - and that is obvious to me, as it is evidently to others who independently know this, too.

The OP of this thread is still younger, in college. At that age, I was pretty oblivious to myself. There was no AS, I was completely alone. I had to figure out this thoroughly fubar'd world on my own with no help from anyone, not even the Great Minds of History - they were of limited assistance. I've worked 40 years, relentlessly and single-mindedly, since about 5yo and an incident which happened then, to know what is really going on, what's what, and why. I guess that's an AS for you, delving that deep for so long, that persistant.

What's incredible is that NO-ONE ever has to do that again.

No AS ever has to be alone ever again in this world. No AS has to waste 45 years of their life finding out what's going on and where's up. No AS ever has to go through life horrified and overwhelmed by human primates and their personalities.
I remember being a young child, in absolute frozen horror at human adults and their constructed personalities. These personalities were not real but kept insisting they were.

No AS ever has to grow up alone and unloved.

No AS ever has to be "cured" by human primates ... like they tried mercilessly to"fix" me - and, no, no-one was ever 'pleased' with my progress.
Which leads to; No AS ever has to battle, all alone, from the first memories of childhood throughout their entire life just to keep themselves as they were made and created to be - superior to human, against a world of humans.

You don't know your super-powers yet; the more free you become, the more you will discover. These abilities are very real, and they aren't just useless show-n-tell flashy stuff to impress people. These are the very makings and the essence of a real next evolution of sentience on this .... right planet.

We AS are gifted beyond what has been recognized. We are fortunate beyond all belief. We do not have to live like human primates - at all. We supercede them in each and every way. Of course AS is genetic!! ! That's how Nature works; genetic mutation. And like any genetic mutation, most are not sucessful; hence the spectrum of Autism. It is harsh to say, but then Nature is as cruel as beautiful indeed; lesser-functioning Autistics are not meant to survive in Nature.

Just this super-power is enough to be ever-grateful for; that we do not have to live like human primates what-so-ever, but can understand our own needs and meet them directly.

"Hi, my name is Richard and I'd like to welcome myself to the Autistic race after 45 years of being here."

;)
Good God! >< I'm sorry dude, but I can't even get through all this. I've never seen one person brag so much...from the way you present yourself, one could think you see yourself as a God....Geesh.



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16 Apr 2008, 8:45 pm

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DanteRF wrote:
Some are amazed by my attention to detail and memory. They are always saying how you do that?
My superpower is I've fixed radios and small appliances when I have no idea what I'm doing, I just look for patterns, and if they don't make sense, fix it, and 95% of the time its fixed.

That sounds suspiciously like a spatial-relations, right-hemisphere-o-the-brain giftedness.
They have a standardized test to isolate spatial-relations IQ (everyone has two hemispheres of the brain, so everyone actually really has two, separate IQ's) where you place blocks together and form different patterns and do puzzles and such. It's completely accurate.
It makes perfect sense (to me) that there would be a significantly higher amount of spatial-relation genius in the AS populace than in the human populace, where it's actually very rare.

If you have that, you just 'know' things, and they don't know how - but all they know is that you can just 'know' things. It's the closest thing to pure impossible magic. My official numerical score on that standardized test is " ... way up here somewhere," which I received at 17yo, to my perplexment. I've been trying to get an actual number ever since.

That's how I play chess and scrabble. I make pretty patterns. I don't think, because that's painful and hurts my brain. I just make pretty patterns. I don't think anymore with my left hemisphere; that hurts and is really slow, so it hurts even more because of how slow it is. I just make pretty patterns and just 'know' things, to everyone's amazement and applause of fine approval - and then they all raise me up on their shoulders and march me about the neighborhood, singing ".... and he's a jolly good fellow..."

It's really cool.
I'm good with spatial relations stuff myself, (Block-Design on the regular IQ tests). I've never been able to just "fix" things like that without knowing what I'm doing. O.o Jesus. At least not computers or cars.
I CAN however seem to do stuff like that when doing math or physics...go figure. :\



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16 Apr 2008, 8:54 pm

After you've been here awhile, Alex or the mods will expose you to purple kryptonite and you will gain a random superpower. Mine is to surf the Web for hours at a time. Or is that a bad thing? :oops:


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20 Apr 2008, 10:00 pm

Ah, completely sorry for not finishing up my post. Horrible problem with completion, etc.

For the past couple days, I've been trying to poke around in the whole super powers department & related list. Here are things for everyone to remember.


---Ability to Fly: Failed.
---Ability to land on all four paws after jumping from a high place: failed.
---Ability to summon ambulances without the help of a cell phone: failed.
---Ability to resist throbbing pain in neck, arms, and ankles: failed.
---Ability to manipulate time so that you're first in line for the emergency room: failed
(You'll still have to wait behind the guy who impaled himself on a bicycle. I s**t you not.)
---Ability to use AS as a way out of medical bills: failed.
---Ability to laugh and type with a cast on: Successful!

So next time you decide to try and Defy Gravity, go play Kingdom Hearts, Spiderman 2, or one of those other great games.

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but for everything else, there's Mastercard.



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21 Apr 2008, 10:41 pm

Pundit23 wrote:
Ah, completely sorry for not finishing up my post. Horrible problem with completion, etc.

For the past couple days, I've been trying to poke around in the whole super powers department & related list. Here are things for everyone to remember.


---Ability to Fly: Failed.
---Ability to land on all four paws after jumping from a high place: failed.
---Ability to summon ambulances without the help of a cell phone: failed.
---Ability to resist throbbing pain in neck, arms, and ankles: failed.
---Ability to manipulate time so that you're first in line for the emergency room: failed
(You'll still have to wait behind the guy who impaled himself on a bicycle. I sh** you not.)
---Ability to use AS as a way out of medical bills: failed.
---Ability to laugh and type with a cast on: Successful!

So next time you decide to try and Defy Gravity, go play Kingdom Hearts, Spiderman 2, or one of those other great games.

PS.
Ability to Fly is something you cant buy,
but for everything else, there's Mastercard.





Believe it or not...I was just told by an "expert"(ok...a twenty year old that works with Asperger kids and is going to grad school to work with HFA/aspergers....that ...."Aspies have no sense of humor"...I wish I had her email, I would send her your post. (Then again, using the lack of logic in psychology, they would just assume that "He must not be an aspie" rather then admit that "experts" might have gotten something wrong.)


well, you got me laughing :D


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22 Apr 2008, 12:27 am

well, I've got humor. That might be my power, considering the rest of the community.

I'm certain, two Autism specialists are pretty certain, my father who doesnt generally believe in mental abnormalities or scientific explanations is certain, and my mother with her bipolar grandfather and brother are certain that I've got AS.

The easiest way to tell that you have AS, or in this case super powers, is to figure out if your own personal metaphorical kryptonite comes from the same quarry as every other Aspies does.

1st Weakness: Social Skills: I can't talk in any class when more than three people enter the room. I'm working on my conversational putting, but I've only managed to accomplish social putzing.

2nd Weakness: Sensitivity to Fabrics: Nothing else has yet explained why touching most popularly used fabrics causes me to feel the sensation of burning. My cousins once wrapped me in course linen, and I passed out from all the "overstimulation". However, it isn't an allergic reaction according to all run of the mill doctors we've seen.

3rd Weakness: Hard for me to establish friendships with people my own age.
4th Weakness: I lose everything. Absolutely everything. If my keyboard wasn't physically attached to the computer, I'd have to put a key locator tag on it like I have on my shoes, backpack, and PSP.
5th Weakness: ...Right. I'm not going to keep this up. I don't want you all to know my every weakness. >.>

And this humor? I have an aptitude for writing, and speaking written script. When it comes to imprompteau speaking, I'm as cold as frosted funions and as awkward as the aforementioned simile.

Cheerio!

PS. I dont think your doctor meant ALL humor. I've heard (within the last 4 weeks since I've heard about AS) that most AS cant tell jokes. Big difference. One requires understanding of funny. The latter requires social timing. Typing compensates this because it removes my thought-stuttering, and allows you to read at the appropriate pace.

Choose your mediums, choose your battles, choose your life: dont let AS choose it for you.