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12 Nov 2005, 7:00 pm

My guess would be that it's genetic. Back as young as I can remember (3), I was repeatedly told to "act right". Around the age of 6 or 7, I started asking people, after intense situations occured, if I had acted right. I'd get funny looks from them.

I mean, some of it's probably formative, but I was doing Aspergers type things from as far back as I can remember.



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12 Nov 2005, 8:13 pm

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God was very disappointed with the current model for humanity so he beefed it up.


I like that explanation. :D


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12 Nov 2005, 8:53 pm

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Sophist,

You mention problems at birth. In my case that seems to hold something. When I was born, my mother tells me it was a long difficult labor in that (1) I was born about 3 weeks past the due date and (2) the doctor had to use foreceps.

With that kind of strain on the skull and neck...hmmmmmm... that might explain a thing or two.


I wouldn't doubt it. Maybe we Aspies are just more genetically susceptible to such problems.


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13 Nov 2005, 7:50 pm

I remember reading one article that contained newly discovered research (around a year ago) that stated that some genes work together to produce AS. So, it could be a genetic factor with multiple factors working together to produce such a result; they just don't know what the genetic factors are. Then again, it could be a chemical or an environmental factor; no one is certain yet.


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13 Nov 2005, 11:28 pm

As far as individual theories, I very highly support the white-matter-deficiency theory because it seems the most plausible in my case. It may be completely different things for different people but again, what I feel I've been struggling against seems almost completely non-psychological and almost all neurological/physical like I have to pass information through these tiny little bottlenecked passageways and by the time it gets through it's already about 15 seconds too late.


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14 Nov 2005, 7:34 am

Well if it is trauma at birth or early age and gentics how about this...
I was born prematurley, I swallowed bleach and whole load of pills when I was two, I also got my head stuck in a cot when I was baby as well.
My father cannot bare people eating oranges near him, he is a bit of a loner (he met his new wife online) and obssesivley studied (which among other things lead to the break-up of my parents marriage).
My twin also apparently displays traits of a other autism spectrum disorder, she hasn't been officially diagnosed, though.



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14 Nov 2005, 11:50 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
As far as individual theories, I very highly support the white-matter-deficiency theory because it seems the most plausible in my case. It may be completely different things for different people but again, what I feel I've been struggling against seems almost completely non-psychological and almost all neurological/physical like I have to pass information through these tiny little bottlenecked passageways and by the time it gets through it's already about 15 seconds too late.


Do you mean the idea of our brains not having the proper connections so that while each area may be functioning properly, the areas aren't communicating with each other properly for us to be able to process incoming information, figure out what to do about it, and send the signals out to our bodies for the proper response in terms of speech/motor movement? That theory makes perfect sense in my case too - I've actually been thinking about all that stuff a lot over the past few days, putting it all together from that angle, slowing the whole process down and analyzing what's going on frame-by-frame. Physically everything is working - sight, hearing, etc - sensory input and general information should be coming *into* my brain properly. Sometimes it gets a little messed up in the way my brain is *processing* that input though, particularly during times of overload. Once I get that mess sorted out I have enough NT instincts to know how I'm supposed to respond but again, the signals get messed up on their way to the motor and speech centres for me to physically act on what I want to do.

It's like the restaurant example I mentioned in the Post a Pic thread. Like you just said, timing is the problem. I'd be able to follow the waitress to the table eventually, but all the necessary cognitive communication and coordination would take too long. In a case like that it's easier to have someone tell me what to do - it's a lot faster for me to follow an external physical nudge and verbal command, rather than processing the whole situation on my own. The problem is the same in all situations, both social and physical responses. It takes too long for all that cognitive processing and coordination to take place, a feeling like I can't keep up with the speed that everyone else is moving at, especially socially and verbally. It's not too bad if I'm not overloaded but the more overload there is, the slower everything gets and that's when it's helpful to have another person giving those prompts to speed things up, very much like the physical and verbal prompts people with LFA require much of the time. Hmmm, it comes back around to that LFA comparison again...



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14 Nov 2005, 12:44 pm

My son was born on time but had a forceps delivery also. I often thought that could be the reason he's AS. But then again, I just think that is his destiny and mine. We have such a good laugh. Well.....most of the time.

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14 Nov 2005, 1:53 pm

There still isn't a known cause 4 autism and aspergers


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15 Nov 2005, 4:06 pm

Well, ask a simple question... Jeeshe I'm buried in answers here.

Truthfully, I came close to death as a kid, I had an alergic reaction to the baby formula that I was being fed. I also got a hold of a bottle of mercury and spent a half an hour playing with it when I was 7.

As far as my upbringing though, I was raised in a fundamentalist baptist home that was very supressive. We could'nt listen to rock&roll. Could'nt hang around certian people, etc, etc. Needless to say, I was very socially isolated. I've come to hate organized religion.

The next question is, does anyone here know of a shrink here in Orange county who is good at diagnosing aspergers?? Preferably one who Blue Shield HMO will cover


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15 Nov 2005, 4:12 pm

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I always vote for an excess of testosterone, a condition referred to as the excessively male brain.
It is a theory as to the biological causes of Asperger's that has never gone away.

There is a link to an academic paper (pdf file) about the condition at The Autism Research Center at the University of Cambridge.


That would certianly explain my baldness!! :roll: :roll: :D



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15 Nov 2005, 4:15 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
As far as individual theories, I very highly support the white-matter-deficiency theory because it seems the most plausible in my case. It may be completely different things for different people but again, what I feel I've been struggling against seems almost completely non-psychological and almost all neurological/physical like I have to pass information through these tiny little bottlenecked passageways and by the time it gets through it's already about 15 seconds too late.


That certianly seems how I feel sometimes. Like my thoughts are in a log jamm! :evil:



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15 Nov 2005, 5:39 pm

Papillon wrote:
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Sophist,

You mention problems at birth. In my case that seems to hold something. When I was born, my mother tells me it was a long difficult labor in that (1) I was born about 3 weeks past the due date and (2) the doctor had to use foreceps.

With that kind of strain on the skull and neck...hmmmmmm... that might explain a thing or two.


hmm. i was the complete opposite. i was born about a week early. my mom had a 4 hour labor.

however, when i was a baby i had to get a flu shot, and apparently i was shaking and quavering abnormally afterwards, so my parents are assuming the shot may have set off the gene and the traits... but really, who knows?



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26 Jul 2006, 8:52 am

I think the MMR caused mine.



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26 Jul 2006, 9:05 am

The mmr does not cause autism, the survey was FIXED, and stop repling to posts from a year ago, its called FLLODING and no1 likes it


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27 Jul 2006, 3:21 pm

You got away with it this time whatever it is...