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26 Feb 2009, 9:30 am

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... As the nearest star is Alpha Centauri which is 100 light-years away, we have a LOT of stars to cover. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri
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4.37 light years away


http://www.solstation.com/stars3/100-gs.htm
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As many as 510 or more stars of spectral type "G" (not including white dwarf stellar remnants) are currently believed to be located within 100 light-years or (or 30.7 parsecs) of Sol.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... 4ly_Radius).svg
A spatial representation of every star within 14 light-years of Sol. There are 32 stars in this region, including Sol.


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26 Feb 2009, 10:09 am

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Has anyone ever FELT they are perhaps from another solar system not really belonging here on earth hence we don't fit in with other humans and that we are in a stage of the evolution of consciousness and it represents as aspergers/autism (or other disorders) and have you ever had a deep longing for the cosmos -STARS -and perhaps we are here to do work on the earth?? A fascination for metaphysics? Too difficult to express these feelings to others?


.... ahh ... mmmhhh... NO!



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26 Feb 2009, 11:01 am

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LordKristov wrote:
... As the nearest star is Alpha Centauri which is 100 light-years away, we have a LOT of stars to cover. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri
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4.37 light years away


http://www.solstation.com/stars3/100-gs.htm
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As many as 510 or more stars of spectral type "G" (not including white dwarf stellar remnants) are currently believed to be located within 100 light-years or (or 30.7 parsecs) of Sol.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... 4ly_Radius).svg
A spatial representation of every star within 14 light-years of Sol. There are 32 stars in this region, including Sol.

And, as I have had reason to research for my fellow BSG fans, six of the other stars fall within the spectral ranges capable of supporting recognizable life forms (spectral classifications F through K). I don't know if an Earthlike planet orbiting Alpha Centauri A would be sufficiently stable - A is almost a twin of our Sun, but has a binary companion, slightly cooler, about as far away as Neptune is from our Sun. The radiation levels would be manageable, but I'm not sure about the influence of Alpha Centauri B's gravity on the hypothetical planet's orbit.

I am holding out some hope for Tau Ceti, say about the fourth planet out... :)


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26 Feb 2009, 12:20 pm

lau wrote:
LordKristov wrote:
... As the nearest star is Alpha Centauri which is 100 light-years away, we have a LOT of stars to cover. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri
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4.37 light years away


http://www.solstation.com/stars3/100-gs.htm
Quote:
As many as 510 or more stars of spectral type "G" (not including white dwarf stellar remnants) are currently believed to be located within 100 light-years or (or 30.7 parsecs) of Sol.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... 4ly_Radius).svg
A spatial representation of every star within 14 light-years of Sol. There are 32 stars in this region, including Sol.


Well.....now that I have made a complete fool of myself.....


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26 Feb 2009, 12:33 pm

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... Well.....now that I have made a complete fool of myself.....

Ah, but no. What it is, is that if the closest star were 100 ly away, then there would be no problem explaining why no other civilisation has contacted us.... they wouldn't have heard us yet.

However, we've been spewing out EM signals for rather a long while, and with so many fairly suitable systems in range, there is a need to explain why there is no one responding to us.

Mind you, as Douglas Adams explains it - there are shiploads of teenage aliens who drop by, paint themselves green, and jump out in front of isolated individuals, making strange buzzing noises as they do so. It's known as "buzzing the primitive, non-star-faring species", or something.


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26 Feb 2009, 12:43 pm

Doug also postulated why there can not possibly be ANY life in the Universe...

Planets = Infinity (I)
Planits with Life = < Infinity... i.e. Finite Number X

X/I = so close to Zero as makes no odds, therefore anyone you meet is just a figment of your deranged imagination. :wink:


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26 Feb 2009, 3:14 pm

lau wrote:
However, we've been spewing out EM signals for rather a long while, and with so many fairly suitable systems in range, there is a need to explain why there is no one responding to us.


Just since 100 years roughly with quite primitive and weak spark-transmitters. Really noise we do since 1920s.

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Besides the question how many planets exist and if they could carry life in any form: How long a technical civilisation can survive. Our civilisation was during the Cuba-Crisis close to an end. The fall of the Soviet Union was the first fall of a Empire without a big war - there was no guaranty that this fall was relative peaceful. Just luck!

So even someone outside the earth would have received our EM-signals, it could be very well that no one today could receive their answer.



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26 Feb 2009, 7:37 pm

Dussel wrote:
lau wrote:
However, we've been spewing out EM signals for rather a long while, and with so many fairly suitable systems in range, there is a need to explain why there is no one responding to us.


Just since 100 years roughly with quite primitive and weak spark-transmitters. Really noise we do since 1920s.

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Besides the question how many planets exist and if they could carry life in any form: How long a technical civilisation can survive. Our civilisation was during the Cuba-Crisis close to an end. The fall of the Soviet Union was the first fall of a Empire without a big war - there was no guaranty that this fall was relative peaceful. Just luck!

So even someone outside the earth would have received our EM-signals, it could be very well that no one today could receive their answer.


Which could be due to:
a)it is so primitive that no one is alive today who can decipher it or
b)it is so advanced that we just haven't figured out a way to translate the reply yet...


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27 Feb 2009, 1:24 am

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... Well.....now that I have made a complete fool of myself.....



However, we've been spewing out EM signals for rather a long while, and with so many fairly suitable systems in range, there is a need to explain why there is no one responding to us.


Caller ID, out of area, need your bank account number to transfer their planet's wealth, 900 numbers, only $295 a minute, twenty minute minimum.

The treasure map to the water planet with excess and dumb meat in need of harvest is as old as the big bang.

Autism is a universal constant, they will get around to it after the seventh level of the game.

They did not notice us till the big broadcast era, 1960's, launched the bombs on warning, at 10% of the speed of light they will get here in 30 years.

Their government is calling us the alien menace and has doubled taxes to protect government leaders from us. As we move to cable, fiber optic, they claim we know they are listening and have gone covert, proof we are after their mossy rocks. Taxes have double again.

They are intelligent plants, we have teeth.

Channel 351 has better programing.

On most planets, reptile life was not killed off by a freak rock, the universe is 99.9% reptilian.

They have replied, and given us the key to instant messaging between the stars, we missed it.

Our government did get the message, brought it to Dick Chaney, who replied, and asked what percentage oil they were by weight?

The Department of the Treasury demanded that they normalize relations, buy $50 trillion in Mortgage backed securities, credit default swaps, and Treasury Bonds, and they offered $25 a ton for scrap paper, delivered.

Of the thousands of intelligent species they have discovered, we are in the bottom 1%.

They only listen for brain waves, our region is silent, with a lot of EM noise.

In the normal cycle of mammal intelligence, after the apes die off, the sea mammals will raise a great culture based on singing, they are waiting.

They have explored, did come and meet us, they did not like us.

With billions and billions of vacation choices, we are not on the Galactic Card approved list.

The Big Bang was intentional.



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27 Feb 2009, 1:28 am

Then there's my personal favorite -

They do listen to radio frequencies, and we are protected by a ten-light-year-thick shell of disco music...


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27 Feb 2009, 3:50 am

Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. Know that I am the Overmind, the eternal will of the swarm and that you have been created to serve me.


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27 Feb 2009, 4:15 am

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Has anyone ever FELT they are perhaps from another solar system not really belonging here on earth hence we don't fit in with other humans and that we are in a stage of the evolution of consciousness and it represents as aspergers/autism (or other disorders) and have you ever had a deep longing for the cosmos -STARS -and perhaps we are here to do work on the earth?? A fascination for metaphysics? Too difficult to express these feelings to others?


YeaH! I used to sit on the roof of the garage when I was a kid and just look at the stars, usually I was thinking "Come and take me HOME!" I don't belong here.

the 'do the work on earth' bit I don't know about that. I just want the space ship to come and take me home.



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27 Feb 2009, 4:17 am

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Has anyone ever FELT they are perhaps from another solar system not really belonging here on earth hence we don't fit in with other humans and that we are in a stage of the evolution of consciousness and it represents as aspergers/autism (or other disorders) and have you ever had a deep longing for the cosmos -STARS -and perhaps we are here to do work on the earth?? A fascination for metaphysics? Too difficult to express these feelings to others?


YES! I felt this way. Then I realised that having just read a book about alien abductions was probably the reason, and immediately got over it. I'm glad to see a high standard of skepticism on WP :)



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27 Feb 2009, 9:47 am

How many threads about this do we really need?
Anyway, I've FELT like that before... I've always wanted to just steal a space ship from the government or something and leave. But the idea that we actually are aliens or whatever is absurd. Instead of going off on a rant about it, I wrote a short article about the whole starseed/Indigo Child thing. It's more aimed toward parents who believe that their child is one, but I outlined traits that the supposed "indigos" have in common with Aspies: The Truth About Indigo Children and Starseeds



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27 Feb 2009, 11:31 am

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How many threads about this do we really need?
Anyway, I've FELT like that before... I've always wanted to just steal a space ship from the government or something and leave. But the idea that we actually are aliens or whatever is absurd. Instead of going off on a rant about it, I wrote a short article about the whole starseed/Indigo Child thing. It's more aimed toward parents who believe that their child is one, but I outlined traits that the supposed "indigos" have in common with Aspies: The Truth About Indigo Children and Starseeds


You have a look too on the so-called "crystal children" - the New Age scene changes quite often their interest and "indigo" is now "out" and "crystal" is in ... who knows the name of the next madness?



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27 Feb 2009, 11:36 am

Dang, Dussel...

Did you have to use Occam's Mustache Comb? :wink:


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