is anyone obsessed with conspiracy theories?

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03 Sep 2006, 7:40 am

Im not so sure about that, the beauty of a well formed conspiracy is people will carry on believing in spite of many leaks. The population has become conditioned to be more likely to believe certain things & accept certain viewpoints, so this would work to your advantage if you needed something kept low key.

eg. Many western peoples would be shocked and upset at their nations involvement in 'false-flag' atricities, yet such incidents are widely documented and declassified in many cases. Yet if you went out trying to sell that idea on the street you'd be likely to be ridiculed - people would call you crazy or a foul mouthed extremist. Sure, there will always be some people who take the info on board and verify it for themselves, but the vast majority just dont want to.

David Icke has a great mataphor for this - he says human beings have 'out-sheeped the sheep' because at least the sheep need a dog to keep them in line. People, constantly scared of what others will think of them keep themselves in line.



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05 Sep 2006, 9:09 pm

Well, I'm also pretty skeptical about most main stream beliefs too :P

I also know enough about government to know that pretty much all of them have to have been involved in some conspiracies.



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09 Sep 2006, 6:59 pm

The Illuminati, maybe true or false. Too many possibilities to mention. There are certainly government conspiracies. Take Porton Down, for example. Chemical weapons testing on unsuspecting citizens.

The whole theory behind the Freemasons/Illuminati would mean that the masses will never know the truth.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5&q=Matrix

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09 Sep 2006, 7:24 pm

I'm sucker for urban myths. Especially the ones to which their truth is yet to be determined. Close enough.



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11 Sep 2006, 6:42 pm

My favourite conspiracy theory is JFK. There is something fishy about that Oswald fella, I just can´t put my finger on it :wink:



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12 Sep 2006, 1:12 am

en_una_isla wrote:
Please list your favorite conspiracies. Mine are:
freemasons

I am a freemason. I was master of a lodge, so that makes a Grand Poo-Bah! :D

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The titanics sister ship (near identical) was seriously damaged after collision with a military ship. Conspiracists claim they switched the names over and scuppered the sister ship.

A fellow freemason I know well (the consiracy deepens) had a grandfather that was a naval architect of the titanic and was on the ship. He had a free 1st class ticket and sailed from Belfast but got off at Southampton, because "he had too much work" (conspiracy deepens more), I am sure that it was the titanic that sunk - not its sister ship.

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I only believe in one. The Moon landing being fake. Seeing enough proof and evidence on the internet, they say it was all done in a studio set. But you never know. They could be watching this forum right...........now. 8O

I believe this one. I saw a french made documentary about it. It had interviews with Kissinger and Haig who as much admitted it.

Aparently Nixon was concerned that tv may not be able to be transmitted from the moon, so they faked the shots and then tried to cover it up. Just about everyone who worked on it died in suspicious circumstances, incl Kubrick some time later after he asked for a favour from Nasa.


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12 Sep 2006, 2:15 am

freemasons!! !!so is it true you guys eat babies?(and if so...straight off the barbie,with or without BBQ sauce.....ah,babys...the other,other white meat<-----that ones for you CockneyRebel)


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12 Sep 2006, 2:31 am

krex wrote:
freemasons!! !!so is it true you guys eat babies?(and if so...straight off the barbie,with or without BBQ sauce.....ah,babys...the other,other white meat<-----that ones for you CockneyRebel)


Would like to say something funny (but don't know if they are watching).

The reality is a bit of a drinking club, like Rotary, Apex, Lyons, etc. we now say its an organisation with some secrets, rather than a secret organisation. However we do take an oath that we are "brothers" and we "will not injure a brother nor cause or suffer a brother to be injured or harmed by others, if in our power to prevent it" but on the contrary will "help a brother if possible without detriment to myself or my connections" or something similar. This bit is not secret. The secret bits are the handshake and passwords that identify freemasons. "Sort of like a boys own club". The oath is probably a bit different in the USA.

I can recommend freemasonry. Its a friendly and welcoming organisation. (only open to men over 21 yrs). I think there are a number of aspies in it. Eccentrics anyway.


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12 Sep 2006, 8:07 am

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
krex wrote:
freemasons!! !!so is it true you guys eat babies?(and if so...straight off the barbie,with or without BBQ sauce.....ah,babys...the other,other white meat<-----that ones for you CockneyRebel)


Would like to say something funny (but don't know if they are watching).

The reality is a bit of a drinking club, like Rotary, Apex, Lyons, etc. we now say its an organisation with some secrets, rather than a secret organisation. However we do take an oath that we are "brothers" and we "will not injure a brother nor cause or suffer a brother to be injured or harmed by others, if in our power to prevent it" but on the contrary will "help a brother if possible without detriment to myself or my connections" or something similar. This bit is not secret. The secret bits are the handshake and passwords that identify freemasons. "Sort of like a boys own club". The oath is probably a bit different in the USA.

I can recommend freemasonry. Its a friendly and welcoming organisation. (only open to men over 21 yrs). I think there are a number of aspies in it. Eccentrics anyway.


Freemasonry is a large, tiered organization(s) with a compartmentalised pyramid structure. The people at the lower levels have very little idea whats going on at the top.

You could compare it to a major bank for instance: the clerk at the front desk lives in a mundane world of petty transactions, punctuated by the occasional fun of workplace camaraderie and xmas parties etc. They know nothing of the arms deals going on up in the board room.



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12 Sep 2006, 6:11 pm

psych wrote:
Freemasonry is a large, tiered organization(s) with a compartmentalised pyramid structure. The people at the lower levels have very little idea whats going on at the top.

You could compare it to a major bank for instance: the clerk at the front desk lives in a mundane world of petty transactions, punctuated by the occasional fun of workplace camaraderie and xmas parties etc. They know nothing of the arms deals going on up in the board room.


Not my experience. You are talking to a Grand Poo-Bah! As "brothers" we are all equal. I know very well senior masons in Grand Lodge Victoria. There are various types of lodges ("blue" Lodge (entry level), Mark Mariner, Holy Royal Arch, 33 degree, Knights Templar (plot thickens more!! !!) etc.

I know people in all and even people in Scottish Knights Templar (not part of Masonic Knights Templar). Either UK masons are very different from here or your perceptions are wrong.

There is no International or national organisation. The Grand Lodge of each state is the top of each separate organisation. For instatnce there is no "Australian" Grand Lodge, only 6 indepedent state GL. I think USA is similar. I think Scotland is separate from England and Wales.

The book "The Hyram Key" has some interesting insights that are only partly correct, but the authors are delusional (IMO).

Australia
http://www.freemasonsvic.net.au/
UK
http://www.ugle.org.uk/
USA
http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/GLs/


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13 Sep 2006, 8:47 pm

why do I feel like I have killed this thread?


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13 Sep 2006, 9:14 pm

Perhaps we should check it's pulse...

Personally I believe in very few conspiracy theories, but I've always been attracted to the idea of them.



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13 Sep 2006, 10:41 pm

New conspiracy...Bazza,infeltrating aspie web site posing as AS....with malicious purpose...sneaks up behind thread with garrote and executes with extreme prejudice...(possibly funded by Skull and Bone)


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13 Sep 2006, 10:51 pm

* Pinky: Gee, Brain, what are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky: try to take over the world!

* Pinky: Narf!

* Pinky: Zort!

* Pinky: Poit!

* Pinky: Troz!

* Pinky: El narfo!

* Pinky: Fjord!

* Brain: It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob.
Pinky: You have no idea.

* Pinky: Hmmm... let me think...
Brain: Don't hurt yourself, Pinky.

* Brain: Promise me something, Pinky. Never breed.
Pinky: I'll try.

* Pinky: (after kicking him into the cage bars while doing his Russian dance) Whatcha doin' over there, Brain?
Brain: Pondering your afterlife, Pinky.


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