Is life more difficult for Aspie women?

Page 3 of 3 [ 44 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

Tim_Tex
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Jul 2004
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 46,683
Location: Houston, Texas

19 Mar 2007, 7:46 pm

I would imagine that it would depend on the individual's coping skills, regardless of gender.

Tim


_________________
Who’s better at math than a robot? They’re made of math!


Aspiegirl89
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 5 Feb 2007
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 410
Location: Belfast, Ireland

20 Mar 2007, 9:32 pm

Hamster wrote:
Women are expected to be empathetic and friendly -- I am neither. I've always been seen by others (especially women) as aloof and weird. Again, I am neither. I long for a connection to other women, but most times, am sickened by their constant gossip, inane interests, and drama queen moments. I always got along better with guys, am lucky to be married to a wonderful man for seventeen years.

Men may have more difficulty meeting and maintaining relationships with the opposite sex (I know -- my favorite brother is an Aspie, handsome, smart, but totally unable to deal with most NT women and their expectations, thus his singleness), but it's just not acceptable for a women to be "mysterious," a loner...Much more acceptable for men to be perceived this way.

We all have it hard, male or female.


can you hook me up with your brother?? lol.


_________________
"ASPIES UNITE!! Oh, right...like we're gonna hold hands." -- T-Shirt design from AutismVox


RedMage
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Nov 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,812

20 Mar 2007, 10:16 pm

Life isn't difficult at all for me.



calandale
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,439

21 Mar 2007, 5:13 am

Apatura wrote:
[What I meant was: say you have a man and woman both with the option of being with a spouse who will support them. The man WILL be looked down on by society while the woman will not, especially if she has children. In that sense it is harder for men because they have fewer options than a woman *might* in the right circumstances have.
.


As a man who was (primarily) supported by his wife, I have to agree. I would get the oddest looks when I would reveal that I didn't work very much. Ah wait - I get those looks anyhow - nevermind.



Fiz
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,821
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom

21 Mar 2007, 9:48 am

Mandelbrot wrote:
Is life more difficult for Aspie women than for Aspie men?

Hello everyone just joined!

I have found from experience, that a woman who is socially 'incapacitated' has a much harder time than a man who has the same problem. Examples can be seen throughout society; it is not very acceptable for a woman to be direct, intelligent, rational, focused, obsessed/dedicated etc. Men find such qualities intimidating from a woman, and cannot compete with her as they do other men, so they ignore her and she is isolated from society (social groups).
NT women depend upon their social grace (that all-important yet confusing thing called body-language) and ability to manipulate to attract mates. I mean, I’m totally left in the dust.

A study found that on average, with every 15% increase in IQ, a man’s chances that he would marry increased by 35%.
For a woman, her chances of marriage and partnership decreased by 40% for every 15% increase!

I am a woman with high-functioning autism/Asperger's and I have found all of this to be very true!

What are your experiences?


Well if this is true, it must be bypassing me as, quite frankly, I couldn't care less if I was intimidating to men or not. If people don't like it then I advice them not to talk to me if they can't keep up with me :-D


_________________
The only person in the world that can truly make you happy is yourself.


Hamster
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 232
Location: New York

21 Mar 2007, 11:45 am

Aspiegirl89 wrote:
can you hook me up with your brother?? lol.


Are you over eighteen? :lol:

Too bad you live in CA...I really wish my brother could find a nice Aspie girl to spend time with...He's 39 (looks much younger, though), and has never even been on a real date. He loves the ladies (especially zaftig brunettes), however, and they seem to like him, even though he's oblivious to their flirtations. I remember years ago when we both went to Daytona (our cousin got married), and while strolling on the beach, girls would smile at him, say hello, and my brother either didn't notice, or only acknowledged them with a slight nod of his head and kept on walking. :lol:

I still marvel at the memory of those beach bunnies flirting with him, despite his wading in the ocean wearing his shoes AND socks (he can't deal with being barefooted). :lol: :lol: :lol:



Aspiegirl89
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 5 Feb 2007
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 410
Location: Belfast, Ireland

21 Mar 2007, 12:11 pm

Hamster wrote:
Aspiegirl89 wrote:
can you hook me up with your brother?? lol.


Are you over eighteen? :lol:

Too bad you live in CA...I really wish my brother could find a nice Aspie girl to spend time with...He's 39 (looks much younger, though), and has never even been on a real date. He loves the ladies (especially zaftig brunettes), however, and they seem to like him, even though he's oblivious to their flirtations. I remember years ago when we both went to Daytona (our cousin got married), and while strolling on the beach, girls would smile at him, say hello, and my brother either didn't notice, or only acknowledged them with a slight nod of his head and kept on walking. :lol:

I still marvel at the memory of those beach bunnies flirting with him, despite his wading in the ocean wearing his shoes AND socks (he can't deal with being barefooted). :lol: :lol: :lol:


haha...I'll be 18 in June. Your brother sounds like the stoic fellow I'd like to date lol. Pity he's almost 40; if he were about 20 I'd be all over that in a second! What's he look like?


_________________
"ASPIES UNITE!! Oh, right...like we're gonna hold hands." -- T-Shirt design from AutismVox


Hamster
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 232
Location: New York

21 Mar 2007, 1:28 pm

Aspiegirl89 wrote:
haha...I'll be 18 in June. Your brother sounds like the stoic fellow I'd like to date lol. Pity he's almost 40; if he were about 20 I'd be all over that in a second! What's he look like?


Darn, you're still a baby! It *is* a pity -- selfish me wants a sister-in-law that I can actually relate to. :wink:

He looks like a cross between Lorenzo Lamas (without a tan) and Robby Benson, both of which I'm sure you're not familiar with -- they're hasbeen actors from the 70's and 80's.

Any interested WP females out there that live in Western New York, are not skinny, love reptiles, and are over twenty-one? Anyone?! I'll pay your travel expenses... :lol:



Edenthiel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2014
Age: 58
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,820
Location: S.F Bay Area

08 Sep 2015, 1:12 am

lastwish wrote:
Mandelbrot wrote:
NT women depend upon their social grace (that all-important yet confusing thing called body-language) and ability to manipulate to attract mates. I mean, I’m totally left in the dust.


as opposed to how I get girls by impressing them with my extensive knowledge of computers?


(swoons) Mmmm, talk hardware interrupts, OSI layers, TCP/IP stacks and C-style pointers to me, baby... :wink:

J/k. But in all seriousness, it was their intellect that first attracted me to my spouse many years ago and that has never waned. Some people really do find it (and a complete knowledge of Tolkien's universe) hot. Oh, and by the way? *Neither* of us has much in the way of social grace, we're both introverts, NVLD, and can't stand people who manipulate prospective (or actual) mates. Finding that person can happen, but sometimes it takes years & slowly building a friendship and trust. Still, you will never find them if you give up completely, you know? In the meantime, enjoy the parts of life you enjoy and grow into a more complex, fulfilled, confident person. That too can be quite attractive.


_________________
“For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love.”
―Carl Sagan


Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

08 Sep 2015, 1:30 am

No...for one I think its still one of those things that depends on the individual, ones sex does not determine how difficult their life is per say. Though it could be said people with aspergers have more 'difficulties' than neurotypicals in many aspects of life. Also though now how difficult 'life' in general is depends solely on how easy or hard dating is for a person? I thought there where a lot more aspects of life than that.

Also though I guess I wouldn't pay much mind to what the average/sterotypical american male isn't attracted to...since that's not what I look for.


_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.


Crazyfool
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 2015
Posts: 470
Location: Bottom of the Abyss

08 Sep 2015, 9:51 am

Mandelbrot wrote:
Is life more difficult for Aspie women than for Aspie men?

Hello everyone just joined!

I have found from experience, that a woman who is socially 'incapacitated' has a much harder time than a man who has the same problem. Examples can be seen throughout society; it is not very acceptable for a woman to be direct, intelligent, rational, focused, obsessed/dedicated etc. Men find such qualities intimidating from a woman, and cannot compete with her as they do other men, so they ignore her and she is isolated from society (social groups).
NT women depend upon their social grace (that all-important yet confusing thing called body-language) and ability to manipulate to attract mates. I mean, I’m totally left in the dust.

A study found that on average, with every 15% increase in IQ, a man’s chances that he would marry increased by 35%.
For a woman, her chances of marriage and partnership decreased by 40% for every 15% increase!

I am a woman with high-functioning autism/Asperger's and I have found all of this to be very true!

What are your experiences?


That's really interesting what you said about the marriage and IQ thing, it could be flawed though. Kind of like how "the average American has one testicle" lol but not taking into consideration that the other half don't have any testicles :P

I think being an aspie we all got it kinda tough in the social department and the dating department. I find intelligent women sexy, if I can have an intellectual debate with her even better, then I know she's both smart and willing to voice her opinion. I can see where some men might take intelligence as a threat though, but that probably only goes for women who are high up on the chain of social and career status. I would have a hard time dating a women who was surgical doctor for instance, because I would feel completely stupid and worthless compared to her.

As far as aspies go though I would think women have more of an edge because of the fact that most interaction is initiated by the male. I've only had a few women come up to me and start chatting me up/ sizing me up...usually we gotta put the work in IMO



Spiderpig
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Apr 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,893

08 Sep 2015, 1:09 pm

Mandelbrot wrote:
it is not very acceptable for a woman to be direct, intelligent, rational, focused, obsessed/dedicated etc. Men find such qualities intimidating from a woman, and cannot compete with her as they do other men, so they ignore her and she is isolated from society (social groups).


Maybe that's what the men you have met and who were up to your standards do.

Mandelbrot wrote:
NT women depend upon their social grace (that all-important yet confusing thing called body-language) and ability to manipulate to attract mate!s.


A woman who attracts me despite being manipulative would attract me much more being upfront instead.

Mandelbrot wrote:
A study found that on average, with every 15% increase in IQ, a man’s chances that he would marry increased by 35%.
For a woman, her chances of marriage and partnership decreased by 40% for every 15% increase!


Probably because, caeteris paribus, the smarter the man is, the more women's standards he meets, while the smarter the woman is, the higher her standards are and the fewer men are up to them.


_________________
The red lake has been forgotten. A dust devil stuns you long enough to shroud forever those last shards of wisdom. The breeze rocking this forlorn wasteland whispers in your ears, “Não resta mais que uma sombra”.