The Dino-Aspie Ex-Café (for Those 40+... or feeling creaky)

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Ooooh, you want pictures that'll get you, of cats?

I used to foster kittens for the shelter. I've got a whole stack of "cute kitten" pictures....

office pet.....I know this feeling well.I worked for 8 years with some very compassion oriented "social service types".They never went so far as asking to be my friends but I did get the small exceptance as their "freak mascot".Now many aspies might feel insulted by this but I kind of liked it.I guess even getting a few scritchs behind the ears is better then getting kicked.Not "ideal" but I'll take it.

Eibl-Eibesfeldt looked at NT emotions. AS is defined in babies and small children by their lack of proper responses. I will admit that NTs exist, and have been studied, but there is a line between them and us, The AS Line. As 0.75% of the population we do stand out for just these things, not making emotional responses, eye contact, not even responding to mothers who also have sound and scent clues.

Autism is defined as not doing what everyone else does, which I will agree is near universal, with cultural variation. That happens on another planet. For as much as our worlds overlap, some differances stand.

I am blue green color blind, after many years of trying everything, I am still blue green color blind. I do not understand, the sky is blue, grass green, and then people start saying I am wrong.

Emotions may seem to have a common center, but the same event will make one person laugh, another cry, and another angry. That is mainstream. No telling how an aspie will react, or if they will even notice.

We do not read these NT secret messages well, and when we try to send replies it has an adverse effect on them. You can lay out all your color cards from blue to green, we can go over them one at a time, and I can agree what you see as blue and green, shuffel the deck, and I will get most of them wrong.

It has always been this way, it always will be, and I would rather play Go Fish.

You can teach a pig to dance, but they will never be good at it, and it makes the pig unhappy.

NT Religion and Psychology both try to define people who are not of their group, and why they are wrong.

It is an Us vs Them witch hunt. There is no such thing as NT, That 99% is just as diverse as the other 1%.

They identify by primitive traits held in common, the lowest common denominator. It is because they are White, or Christian, or of the same political party. It may be income, education, neighborhood, or the car they drive. It is identity politics, based on exclusion, like Preppy teen girls in Junior High.

The weakness shows when they cannot stand for another point of view to be happy. It is a strong sign of the true believer trait. Everyone must bow before their view. Religous people are all love and what best for everyone, as they define it, and really turn ugly if you express doubts about pregnant virgins. We will bring you the God of Love, if we have to kill every last one of you to do it!

I do not see Psychology as a Science. They change their mind every five years. Anthropology avoids the study of it's own culture, and the ways of Trobrind Islanders have nothing to do with Mesolithic Europe, or aspies.

Aspies cannot be defined by studies of all the NTs on earth. Six Billion people can be wrong. NT studies of aspies are an outside point of view, they miss our inner world, just as we miss theirs.

We self define to survive, so we are good at it. We know what works for us and what does not. WP is the first and only self defined community. We find we have much in common. Living and working as a group is new. Links are made one at a time, there is a lot going on in the background. Our interests do run deep, we are hard workers, and very persistant.

The results of our study would make no sense to the NT world. We can use it for our own support and mutual survival. The best people to deal with us are us. It is something NTs should understand, a gated private club.

We will harm others, CAN and Autism Speaks know it, and everything ever said by the so called mental health profession is reported here, discussed, and given away freely 24/7. There is a strong anti-drug lobby, from folks who should know. There is a worldwide support network.

The fee for services concept is going to lose a lot as moms talk to moms, teens hang in a peer group, and the cafe is the first place to look for help. It has reached critical mass, enough people from all groups here at all times. It has doubled since I came, and is growing faster.

Homosexuals demanded sanity in 1994, we were put in to fill the office hours. As the largest group of neuro diverse, when we quit, the business is going under. I expect to see them on the sidewalk, with hand lettered cardboard signs, Will psychobabble for food.

I am much more interested in the Aspie Olympics, being detached, I have been made a judge in the Emo Races.

Sorry that I passed on the videos, I do not own speakers.

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Funny how the Inventor thinks he is teaching us something. Not only do we all already know of what he speaks (and more) we at least have the heart to see it in context and not just as a general rant about anything and everyone.

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ya got a frog in your pocket?


Merle

Is that anything like a burr in your behind?

Am I going to have to go back and find Lau's rules for the cafe?

just asking who the 'we' are Sapphix was referring to.

Conflict makes me edgy.

I don't know who this "us" and "we" of whom you speak is but I hope you dont include me in that group.I continue to learn much from Inventor and he always makes me smile inside...(not an easy task).Perhaps you missed the part of the DX that says we are often "lecturers who tend towards padantry?"Some how this seems to offend many NT's who feel they are being "lectured at"...I just take it all in as "information",which is neither good or bad, and use what I can,store what I dont yet understand and discard what seems most unlikely.I'm not insulted by "lectures" if they contain wit and wisdom.

As some one who is relatively new to the community,perhaps you have never seen how badly Inventor has been(attempted)bullied by many here(whom he continues to defend and support inspite of it)?His manor of speaking seems to alianate those NT's and aspies who want to be more NT.It doesn't seem to bother him but it pisses me off.

I dont think your going to "get it" so I am going to stop wasting my breath trying to make you understand.What happened to that "positive attitude" you started the day with?

oh, was that confrontational? Sorry, Laurie, didn't mean to get you all concerned. Just being my blunt sweet self.

Merle

No problem, Merle! I love ya'. The whole day in the cafe has been rather tense and it doesn't take much for me to want to run when debates start. I know they're necessary but I don't have to like it!

I never heard that expression.I assumed it had something to do with "croaking" but wasn't sure of the relivance....but I guess it was the same point I was making only with fewer words...(and now I know a new "expression")

I gots a frog. But it's dead. Mummified, actually.

Don't let Chuck get his hands on it! He loses mummified animals and their legs! He also keeps bats in his belfry....... oh no.... in his fridge. My bad!