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07 Jan 2008, 7:10 am

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... 8O Who said I'm moving this weekend?? Do you know something i don't? 8O


... things I don't know, or think I know but don't, or hear but misunderstand, I make up. I thought you told me you'd be moving this weekend, but would be back Monday. But that was probably what you told me in a realistic dream, perhaps when I fell asleep during (one of the) boring lectures at the seminar I attended on Friday. Or perhaps I am clairvoyant, and I foresaw that you will be moving on some future weekend, but will return on it's respective Monday. ( :oops: Gotta fix that glitch in my crystal ball).

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I am waiting for a phone call from the Housing Authority (low income housing) because I'm on the waiting list. In the meantime I have been packing and am ready when they call. But I have huge reason to keep smiling. And feeling like a queen :D !


Oh sure! Don't tell us. Just leave us hanging. I'm not curious. Not me. I have never been interested in anything. Nope. Don't want to know. Just keep it to yourself. Miss smiling queen. :wink: :P



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07 Jan 2008, 9:10 am

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You need to find the golden book on Neurology and pass it out. It's obvious many could use it.

I think it's time to head back to my closet. Those clinging so tightly to their ghastly ideas is already irritating me. It's kind of like my opinion of Jerry Springer: I've already accepted that the world is comprised of 80% who belong to the Confederacy of Dunces, it doesn't mean I have to actually see it in action on a daily basis. I'm happy in my ignorance. It serves me well. Ack! They leave a bad taste in my mouth. Plus this is my day to let people have it. I did it at PetSmart this morning and I just did it in the In Depth Adult section (what the heck is that name anyway?). I wonder if I can retire in Belize if I cash out?


:wink: Saw the comment on "over-thinking things". I have always done that. Ruminate when things go wrong. My analysis (and admittedly over-analysis, and going back to it, and picking it apart, and re-examination of it, for the nth time :lol: ) of a situation is how I learn (perhaps) from it. If I could not do that, my "wheelchair" would indeed be gone. (Good analogy, BTW).

You have targeted this correctly as well:
out of context quote from what ZanneMarie wrote:
...Whether someone does not use their mirror neurons for 20 years is irrelevant if they are damaged. That theory only works if they are perfectly functional but never used. In that case your theory would be correct, JC, but you can't tell that without scans you can actually read. If they are damaged or broken, then trying to use them again 20 years later is going to lead to the same results. You'd have to actually have new mirror neurons, some that still work or find out if the brain can transform other neurons into that functionality. That's where the answer lies. If you can't do that then all rehabilitative efforts if they are broken are futile. They only possibly give limited results if they are damaged.


There is newfound hope, for some, perhaps, possibly, 100 years from now:
An investigation of neural stem cells by Dr. Goldman revealed that glial mutipotent progenitor cells exist in the brain (see link below if interested):
http://www.nyp.org/news/hospital/340.html

I went to a neurology seminar Friday, hoping to talk with Dr. Goldman, as I have memorized his neuroanatomy book. Unfortunately, he was not in attendance. Wanted to talk to him about the possibility of establishing mirror neurons in an individual without them. Talked with neurologist Derek Schramm, PhD, who was there, and who told me essentially this:

paraphrase of Dr. Scramm's discussion, and not what he "wrote", but cannot eliminate this final word: wrote:
All talk of practical application concerning this discovery is science fiction at this point - we just aren't close to being where we would have to be to make this a possibility - yet. (he estimated 40 to 100 more years of research and testing would take us there).

Neural stem cells are like "lazy teenagers" - just because damaged cells exist in a person's brain (or a need for replacing missing cells that stem cells "could" potentially become), doesn't mean they will, or can be made to. They would rather lie there and remain stem cells.

Two things have been shown to cause neuronal stem cells not to differentiate into new cells (they remain stem cells): smoking, and lack of exercise.


So, theoretically (please note emphasis of the word theoretically, especially since this is coming out of my brain): if a person didn't smoke, exercised regularly, and was in possession of neural stem cells, which could be induced to form into mirror neurons.... that person would have a shot - if what one "learns" with mirror neurons at an early age could be "learned" by an individual at a later stage in life (who had mirror neurons grown in his/her brain); or if they could be "turned on" early enough in an infant's life (born without mirror neurons, or improperly functioning ones).

But your argument 'to work forward from actual clinical neuron-based research', not backward from well-intentioned (but perhaps misguided) theories is correct.

[Those "well-intentioned theories" can "feel" so right that their authors will ignore all facts to the contrary. Offering to pass out Golden Books on Neurology would probably lead to "well-intentioned theory author anger" (herinafter referred to as WITAA) rather than enlightenment - and further fuel your frustration. :wink: :lol: I hope you do not retreat into the cupboard again, (much as I understand your desire to do so - I was happy in my ignorance as well)].

Now that I know that you all are "out there", I miss you when you leave. I understand your need for a break and an escape - even long ones. But I hope you always return. :D

Besides, Marcel Proust, at the end of his life, looked back and decided that all the years that he suffered - those were the best years of his life. Because they made him who he was. They forced him to think and grow, and to feel very deeply. And the years that he was happy? Total waste. Didn't learn anything.

...so if you leave Wrong Planet ... think of all the suffering you will miss!! !" :wink: :lol:



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07 Jan 2008, 9:27 am

...our not having (or having too few, or non-functioning) mirror neurons lead to our use of our "wheelchairs" - to "over-think things". We have developed into who we are as a direct result. Our "genius" (if that is what they wish to call it) is a result.

Universal cure will kill our need to "over-think things".

...with resultant after effects for the entire world which would be associated with such a death.



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07 Jan 2008, 9:36 am

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Lauri wrote:
I am waiting for a phone call from the Housing Authority (low income housing) because I'm on the waiting list. In the meantime I have been packing and am ready when they call. But I have huge reason to keep smiling. And feeling like a queen :D !


Oh sure! Don't tell us. Just leave us hanging. I'm not curious. Not me. I have never been interested in anything. Nope. Don't want to know. Just keep it to yourself. Miss smiling queen. :wink: :P


Oh, don't worry, I won't. For awhile. At the moment it's my happy secret!! :wink: :P

:evil: My first day of absolutely no kids in my house for most of the day and I just HAD to wake up with some lovely virus. Sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever and the whole nine yards. Going back to bed! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............


(Nan, how are you? I was just watching the news and saw all the storms in your area. YIKES!)



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07 Jan 2008, 9:41 am

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...Oh, don't worry, I won't. For awhile. At the moment it's my happy secret!! :wink: :P

:evil: My first day of absolutely no kids in my house for most of the day and I just HAD to wake up with some lovely virus. Sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever and the whole nine yards. Going back to bed! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............


(Nan, how are you? I was just watching the news and saw all the storms in your area. YIKES!)


Bottled-up secrets attract viruses. :wink: :lol:



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07 Jan 2008, 9:43 am

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blessedmom wrote:
...Oh, don't worry, I won't. For awhile. At the moment it's my happy secret!! :wink: :P

:evil: My first day of absolutely no kids in my house for most of the day and I just HAD to wake up with some lovely virus. Sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever and the whole nine yards. Going back to bed! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............


(Nan, how are you? I was just watching the news and saw all the storms in your area. YIKES!)


Bottled-up secrets attract viruses. :wink: :lol:


It's well worth it! :wink: If a virus is the price I must pay, I'll gladly take it. :) (said in my best Drama Queen voice, hand on forehead)



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07 Jan 2008, 9:47 am

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...It's well worth it! :wink: If a virus is the price I must pay, I'll gladly take it. :)


..."sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever" - that's just the start. "Bottled-up Secret Virus" causes the arms to fall off, the head to explode, and other gruesome unmentionable things. Luckily, the cure is easy: wag your tongue.



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07 Jan 2008, 9:51 am

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...It's well worth it! :wink: If a virus is the price I must pay, I'll gladly take it. :)


..."sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever" - that's just the start. "Bottled-up Secret Virus" causes the arms to fall off, the head to explode, and other gruesome unmentionable things. Luckily, the cure is easy: wag your tongue.


ZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPP! mmmmm mmm mmmmmmm mmmm. Mmmmm mm mmmmmmm mmm. :roll: :lol:


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07 Jan 2008, 10:01 am

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...It's well worth it! :wink: If a virus is the price I must pay, I'll gladly take it. :)


..."sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever" - that's just the start. "Bottled-up Secret Virus" causes the arms to fall off, the head to explode, and other gruesome unmentionable things. Luckily, the cure is easy: wag your tongue.


ZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPP! mmmmm mmm mmmmmmm mmmm. Mmmmm mm mmmmmmm mmm. :roll: :lol:


Fine. :evil:

:idea: (Tattle!! !) :D

Gromit? DuncanBass? Postie? Nan? Lauri has a secret, ..an', ..an' won't share it!! ! :shameonyou:



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07 Jan 2008, 10:05 am

....saaaaay... 8O
.....you are back on Monday....
....this all seems rather, *a-hem*, suspicious, don'tcha think?



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07 Jan 2008, 10:08 am

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...It's well worth it! :wink: If a virus is the price I must pay, I'll gladly take it. :)


..."sore throat, stuffy nose, headache, fever" - that's just the start. "Bottled-up Secret Virus" causes the arms to fall off, the head to explode, and other gruesome unmentionable things. Luckily, the cure is easy: wag your tongue.


ZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPP! mmmmm mmm mmmmmmm mmmm. Mmmmm mm mmmmmmm mmm. :roll: :lol:


Fine. :evil:

:idea: (Tattle!! !) :D

Gromit? DuncanBass? Postie? Nan? Lauri has a secret, ..an', ..an' won't share it!! ! :shameonyou:


8O :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :twisted: :silent:

I'll tell you...... in a month or so......maybe....... I could have fun with this for a long time. You're just as nosy as me! :lol:



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07 Jan 2008, 10:11 am

Back to bed with me. Luvs ya, oh nosy one!! !


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07 Jan 2008, 10:16 am

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Where can I find clothes like that?

R.


Almost any store near the ocean in Pacific Beach, California. :wink:



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07 Jan 2008, 10:17 am

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...yo. hillbilly. you lost. :lol:...


8O

Well. I've yet to see my first football game, as I fell asleep 3 minutes into it, and just now woke up...

...but from what I little I did see, It's obvious why your team won. The field was relatively flat. Not a single hill on it!! ! And my team was made to wear shoes. 8O

How can Tennesseans be expected to play under such conditions? Totally unfair.


:lol: Hey, there was plenty of booze for sale there....



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07 Jan 2008, 10:19 am

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Back to bed with me. Luvs ya, oh nosy one!! !


Who's back to bed with ya, Lauri? [enquiring minds want to know]
and what's the big secret, huh? what is it?



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07 Jan 2008, 10:21 am

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blessedmom wrote:
Back to bed with me. Luvs ya, oh nosy one!! !


Who's back to bed with ya, Lauri? [enquiring minds want to know]
and what's the big secret, huh? what is it?


8O 8O NAN! Tea.... laptop......laptop isn't fond of wearing my tea!! And the other keyboard hasn't been the same since the last time.

How's the weather? :roll:



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