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Tiffanyanne
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26 Jul 2009, 10:33 pm

Hi, I am new. I have a step son with Aspergers. He has been my step son for 3 years and I have finally decided that I can't handle this on my own. So I have decided to join group to help with advice. People I can talk to that don't have a personal connection with him (Chase). I have a difficult time socializing with him. I just need advice about how to socialize with him better and how to punish him properly because that seems to be my husband and I's most often disagreement. I would love to have advice from others and also get to know some people that are going through the same situation.



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26 Jul 2009, 10:41 pm

Hi, I'm old.
From what I've seen of step situations, the step is much better off not trying to do the discipline. Unless the spouse is abusive, I suppose, and then you should report abuse to the authorities. And won't that open a can of worms?

It's going to be hard to give advice until we know the age and behaviours and family dynamics going on. I'm sorry things are hard.



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26 Jul 2009, 10:58 pm

Hi and Welcome.

Discipline is an age-appropriate thing.

We need to know;
a. How old is he?
b. What sorts of things would you feel need discipline?
c. How does he accept you - what kind of relationship do you have with him now?

You also need to check with his father about discipline and find out what his father's views are. Also whether his father wants to allow you to discipline his child - some fathers won't accept it.



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26 Jul 2009, 11:22 pm

Welcome to WP.
I think that you should learn more about aspergers and what to punish and what not to punish. There is much online about it. Sometimes people with AS can be unintentionally rude and that shouldn't be punished, but corrected.
The parents forum will be useful for you.


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26 Jul 2009, 11:59 pm

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27 Jul 2009, 6:58 am

Brittany2907 wrote:
Welcome to WP.
I think that you should learn more about aspergers and what to punish and what not to punish. There is much online about it. Sometimes people with AS can be unintentionally rude and that shouldn't be punished, but corrected.
The parents forum will be useful for you.


IN addition, probably you and the child's father should both learn about AS, and you could be discussing it amongst yourselves, so tha tyou can come to better agreements on such things as discipline, appropriate ways of interacting with the child, etc.



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27 Jul 2009, 7:03 am

Welcome. I hope you'll feel at home here.


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27 Jul 2009, 10:27 am

Welcome to the Wrong Planet community, Tiffanyanne. You might wish to check out WP's Parents’ Discussion Forum: http://www.wrongplanet.net/forum19.html
All the best to you and your family.


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27 Jul 2009, 2:45 pm

My step son is 10 years old. I have especially hard time because we don't have him all the time. Mostly during the summer. Plus, his family situation isn't all that great. His mother and his grandmother (my husband's mother who he sees every other weekend) uses his asperger's as a crutch. Any misbehavior half the time gets dismissed. Right now his mother doesn't have place to live so my husband is going to try to get custody but he thinks he is going lose because Chase is very much a momma's boy. My husband and I's house is much more strict. I don't believe that asperger's prevents him knowing right from wrong. Yes, I totally understand the being rude but not doing it intentionally but you can only correct it so many times to the point you don't know what else to do but to punish him for it. He also has major anger problems. Sometimes I even get scared that he is going to hurt me or our other children.I have a step daughter who is 6 and a son that is 2. He hit me last year and that fear is still with me. I try to seem interested in the things he is interested but all he ever wants to do all day is play video games and watch movies. So a lot of the day we don't really socialize. I wish there was something that we had in common. The types of punishment that we most often use is taking away his video games which often seems to work. I thought another punishment would be writing sentences about what he did wrong. We don't have a lot of control because we only have him for the summer so anything we try to fix basically is a waste of our time because when we get him back he is back to his old ways. I just feel so hopeless about the situation. Any advice anyone now that you know more?



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27 Jul 2009, 8:33 pm

Hi Tiffanyanne,

Age 10 is too old for "violent" discipline to be effective. Smacking will have no effect, other than to make him accept that violence is a way of solving problems. (I'm not against smacking but I think at this age, you're increasing the danger).

Aspergers is not, and should never be used as, a crutch. It is however a real condition with real impact. You could benefit from learning which of Chase's behaviours are aspergers-related and which are not.

It will also be difficult for Chase to move between houses where varying levels of strict-ness are enforced.

Can you define the rudeness - are we talking about rude speech or about waving one's private parts about. Both can be aspie symptoms but the behaviours have to be tackled differently.

The major anger problems you describe could be meltdowns. These are very much an aspie thing. They won't even necessarily be enirely caused by the problem at hand but usually have a longer-term cause. When he's in a meltdown state, you need to leave the room (or gently encourage him to). He needs to be alone in order to land himself. On no account should you disturb, tease, laugh or even touch him in this state. It's bad enough when a meltdown is directed at objects - or himself. Interference could cause it to focus on you and your daughters.

He needs to be taught how to recognise a meltdown BEFORE it happens and how to remove himself from a situation.

As far as the games/movies are concerned. You're best off working out a "timetable" of when these activities are permitted and making sure that it's prominently displayed when he's around. Removing gaming priviliges from aspies is often counter-productive. It's ok to remove them for a BIG thing but you need to pick your battles. Aspies need a fair amount of alone-time to recharge and avoid the things that lead to meltdowns.

As far as conversation is concerned, you probably can't expect a great deal. Aspies aren't usually the world's best conversationalists - except when talking about their special interests. That doesn't mean don't try... don't let him have "no conversation" - he needs it in order to grow.

I'm sorry if so far this feels like it's all about him and his needs. It's just that these need to be understood and met. Aspergers does have some limitations in that regard.

Now for discipline...

You need to establish a firm hierarchy of discipline. Work out what to you is a "capital offence", what are lower offences and what is annoying but tolerable. Let the small stuff go. You can deal with that later. For now, concentrate on the big stuff.

It's tempting to start punishment on the first offense but unfortunately, you have to cut him a bit of slack. For example; if he's fighting with another child while playing a video game, you need to make him stop. Explain that this is not acceptable and tell him what to do if a fight looks about to happen. For example; if he claims to be teased, then he may need to come downstairs and talk to you about it instead of retaliating.

When issues recurr... If he has acted correctly, you need to take corrective actions against the cause of the problem. If he has instead taken his own action, then you need to remove him from the game - even if it means turning it off.

This is most effective if you only remove him from it for one hour at first. Then let him go back. After a few repeats, you'll want to increase the time. He will start to learn.

Writing lines is counterproductive. If you have an issue with him or his behaviour, you should instead find a way for him to "fix it". For example, if he has been rude to you, then perhaps he needs to help with the washing. If he has upset a sibling, then he needs to play with them on their own terms for a while.

Don't forget to reward for good behaviour too.

If you start creating rules and "punishments", you might want to supply them to his mother. Depending upon your relationship with her, she might accept some of them. This will at least make life easier when he next visits.

Anyway, these are just a few ideas.