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11 Feb 2010, 6:59 am

But, I've never actually introduced myself... I'm 27 (almost), and was diagnosed with AS approximately a year ago, after many years of investigation mostly regarding my daughter (one of twins, now aged 6), who has just been dx'd with HFA.

Lately I've been reading much on how those with ASD's apparently lack the ability to be perceiving, emotional, and sympathetic, and have met with so many articles which make me want to find the author and read out a well-rehearsed speech on how those who have an autistic spectrum disorder are all all individual as NT's, and there are varying degrees of how we experience and express emotion and perceptions. Even on the forum here I've "run into" people saying that you can't have AS if you have any emotional ability, which, to me is extremely closed minded...

Anyway. Just my thoughts. I'm overly-emotional, just extremely reserved, although thanks to the internet and written communication this has changed my ability to communicate my thoughts.



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11 Feb 2010, 9:08 am

hologrammatic wrote:
Even on the forum here I've "run into" people saying that you can't have AS if you have any emotional ability, which, to me is extremely closed minded...

Anyway. Just my thoughts. I'm overly-emotional, just extremely reserved, although thanks to the internet and written communication this has changed my ability to communicate my thoughts.


Pfoeh, I can't believe people would say that on here. AS, in my opinion, is one of the most layered conditions in the world that we currently know of. One of my ex roommates has AS, and he has no sense of people's emotions. I have AS, too, and I've had my eyes just open enough to society (not in an ego boosting way) to create this mask of "I know how you feel" because I've never been aware of my condition, and always thought I had to amount to something or someone. Everybody is different, even without AS.

I think the correct term would be "social abilities" instead of "any emotional ability", because the case is usually difficulty in expressing or understanding (others') emotions. Don't you think? (I really can't believe someone said that).

Anyway: WELCOME!



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11 Feb 2010, 10:15 am

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11 Feb 2010, 1:33 pm

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11 Feb 2010, 1:35 pm

Welcome to WrongPlanet. :)


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11 Feb 2010, 1:38 pm

I can relate. So glad you're here. Welcome to WrongPlanet! :)



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12 Feb 2010, 10:32 am

Hello hologrammatic, welcome,

I agree with what you say.

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13 Feb 2010, 2:40 am

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neves wrote:
hologrammatic wrote:
Even on the forum here I've "run into" people saying that you can't have AS if you have any emotional ability, which, to me is extremely closed minded...

Anyway. Just my thoughts. I'm overly-emotional, just extremely reserved, although thanks to the internet and written communication this has changed my ability to communicate my thoughts.


I think the correct term would be "social abilities" instead of "any emotional ability", because the case is usually difficulty in expressing or understanding (others') emotions. Don't you think? (I really can't believe someone said that)."
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i am living proof that one can have both AS as well as Stendahl's Syndrome, or at least some degree of emotional lability. yes, even in this forum with folk who should know better, there are some who would have "purity" tests to weed-out those who are insufficiently aspie. you will find such hypocrisy everywhere on this earth, it is the human condition- IOW, we are all hypocrites about something under the sun. ignore these particular purist folk.
it is not that i cannot decode others' emotions, but that much in the way of people and their facial expressions just don't translate well. if somebody is obviously boo-hooing my mind says it is either real or an act, but my emotions [my heart] takes the lead, as i usually start crying also, even though intellectually i can't tell if their hurt is genuine or real. when somebody is [or acts like they are] hurting i hurt also. this i understand, but if somebody is more subtly offended by me or by something i said to them, unless they are shouting epithets and expectorating, i usually can't tell what they are feeling. IOW, it must be spelled-out to me using concrete language, e.g., "you offended me because...." i just don't do body language well.
so welcome, neves- you've as much a right to be here as the rest.



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19 Feb 2010, 2:51 am

Thanks everyone...

I agree that people who are in discussion about various aspects of diagnostic criteria should really look into what words actually mean before making assumptions, or writing what could be perceived as inappropriate, or hurtful, to others. It helps communication if things are worded in a correct manner.

I'm glad to be here. :)



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19 Feb 2010, 4:57 am

Good to see you, hologrammatic.

The significant failing in aspies is not feeling for the others in their ken, it's in making that feeling apparent across the group.

Yes, we have difficulties perceiving stuff, but mostly that's an aftereffect of having our feelings ignored from outside.

This distinction is poorly appreciated, as far as I can tell. And attempts to refer to it are invitations to disaster. Still, there are research opportunities in there.