"Frosted or Wheat Side" or Frosted Aspie Wheat

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19 Apr 2005, 12:04 am

a view of the forest by Ghosthunter wrote:
In the autism spectrum we are in a forest of
tree's yet to be harvested by the elements
of change. The fire will burn, awareness and
understanding will prevail, and so will new tree's
create new aspects of ourselves in a newer
forest.


Thus begins the frosting(Self, Spirit) and wheat
(I-Physical) debates. I am empty the mind
say's and thus the echo's of things I should
are clear(Frosting), and I am tense, and don't
know where to start(Wheat).

This is what I felt at work today, aware that new
feeling will grow from the forests burnt in the past.
We as AS/HFA people will hear our better selfs
and wonder how to manifest it.

I am aware that I am different today, and still
tense when around the public. So now begins
improving the recipicol and theory of mind
frosting and wheat work. I think it(frosting)
and I express it(wheat).....Any idea's or thoughts
on this topic or feeling type work that I have
never really had to address with a clear conscious?

Inquisitively,
Ghosthunter, Hmmm?

P.S....I hope this isn't confusing I write from
feeling and heart. 8O



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19 Apr 2005, 5:43 pm

:roll: The curse of being Ghosthunter strikes
again. :( What was I to expect? Hmmm!

Being in the darkness cave and emerging
physically unscaved has scars and curses
unseen. I wasn't expection much, and this
only validates :x

NEVER MIND!! !! !! !! ! :evil:



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19 Apr 2005, 6:25 pm

What debates are beginning? Are you saying that you have trouble communicating what you feel to people? That seems to be one of the basic problems with Autism. I'm sure others have trouble understanding you because they too have problems understanding others.


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19 Apr 2005, 7:00 pm

I don't really follow your post, GH, possibly because we don't have 'frosted wheat' here, I think it's a breakfast cereal, like sugar coated?

It looked more like a blog entry to me, which is fine, your'e talking about your state of mind and what the day may hold? Didn't seem to need a response, anymore than a blog entry does.

Have a good one!

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19 Apr 2005, 7:03 pm

Don't give up too soon, Ghosthunter, I for one am still listening, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I think I know what you're talking about (though let me know if I'm wrong)... the split between mind and body where you can have a message hovering in your head that you know is brilliant and insightful, but the moment you try to open your mouth and let it fall into the air, everything freezes up, or it sounds horribly stilted, or the words are all fragmented and disconnected.

One of my goals at the moment is to figure out this whole reciprocity thing too. I've found that I'm fine when I'm talking about something that has no emotional significance to me whatsoever. But the moment it started to matter, I'd have to push through resistance just to get the message across indirectly - let alone sit down across from someone, look them in the face, and say what I'm thinking while staying focused on their reaction.

The best tactic I've discovered is to find someone you know is absolutely safe (a close friend or counsellor works best) and just push through the resistance until your body and mind get used to being in the same place at the same time. It slowly got easier with time and practice, as I demonstrated to myself that people weren't automatically going to reject my words or tell me I was wrong/stupid/whatever.



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19 Apr 2005, 7:12 pm

Autistic people can be blinded
by their lack of knowing how
to express to one another. :lol:

And as such I tend to forget
that I can overexpress(my curse) :roll:

Thanks for reminding me :D

Hmmmm? Alex, what then would
happen if you held a convention
(and this is a serious statement)
for your fellow WrongPlanet members
to have them meet face to face.
Hmmmm? Scarry if this communication
issue got in the way :wink:



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19 Apr 2005, 7:37 pm

Welcome, Pyraxis

I hope my last message to you didn't offend
you, it is expression of my dark side
and forebodings I thought and still
think you need to consider. The fact
that you still talk to me is a good sign
but do take what I said earlier to
heart, I SPEAK FROM experience.

What about the convention idea????
hmmm? I like it and since you and
I tend to think alike, Hmmmm? Do
you think a WrongPlanet Convention
is a good idea?

How is it going? PM me if you choose
method better.

Back to the regularly scheduled program
brought to you by "Frosted Mini-Wheat's"
with the debative mini-wheat character.

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Don't give up too soon, Ghosthunter, I for
one am still listening, and I'm sure I'm not
the only one.


I am working on this issue too. I am making
much effort maintaining eye contact, and
trying to allow questions to continue a string
of thoughts. I do admit I am not very good
at it. I hope you like the poem I wrote.
What is a blog?

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I think I know what you're talking about
(though let me know if I'm wrong)... the
split between mind and body where you
can have a message hovering in your head
that you know is brilliant and insightful,
but the moment you try to open your
mouth and let it fall into the air, everything
freezes up, or it sounds horribly stilted, or
the words are all fragmented and disconnected.


Yes!, Yes!, and definely yes!


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One of my goals at the moment is to figure
out this whole reciprocity thing too. I've found
that I'm fine when I'm talking about something
that has no emotional significance to me whatsoever.
But the moment it started to matter, I'd have to
push through resistance just to get the message
across indirectly - let alone sit down across from
someone, look them in the face, and say what
I'm thinking while staying focused on their reaction.


This is what I am working on each day now
since I melted my iceberg(or darkcave if that is
more appropriate term). I hope you are doing
good on this topic?



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19 Apr 2005, 7:46 pm

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I don't really follow your post, GH, possibly
because we don't have 'frosted wheat' here,
I think it's a breakfast cereal, like sugar coated?

It looked more like a blog entry to me, which is
fine, your'e talking about your state of mind and
what the day may hold? Didn't seem to need a
response, anymore than a blog entry does.

Have a good one!

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Hmmm? I was intending it to...? 8O
I just wrote it and thought it was a good
sincere topic. :( Well, the point was to
illustrate a "Frosted Mini-Wheats" view of
autism, and being the brave soul I am
I used myself as it's first illustrative guinea
pig. :oops: DID YOU LIKE THE POEM THOUGH? :D

Most bewildered,
Ghosthunter



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19 Apr 2005, 8:29 pm

a blog is a web diary.

liked the poem.


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19 Apr 2005, 8:40 pm

I'm glad you liked the small poem. :D



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20 Apr 2005, 8:15 am

My mum once stated "I have all this intelligence stuck behind the fog of my personality" I have remembered this for years because this very feeling taunts me always.

Is this what you are expressing Ghosthunter?


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20 Apr 2005, 12:06 pm

Thanks ghosthunter. That's one of the very few poems that's ever made sense to me!


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23 Apr 2005, 4:24 pm

I'm allergic to wheat.
--In reference to expression of thought- If it is an important thought process or conversation-I take notes-even the most cryptic notes can lead to the original thought process-eventually--and then I can try to see if it is emotional or cerebral-I understand the feeling of dychotomy between the physical/mental/spiritual-on a personal level--but have difficulty comprehending external (social) concepts of self--I assume that others have these same thoughts?



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23 Apr 2005, 5:36 pm

What exactly is an external (social) concept of self? What else is there aside from physical/mental/spiritual?

Actually, incidentally, I'm allergic to wheat too.