Myth: Depression is a mentality. Truth: Its a disease

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typhoeuszombie
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02 Mar 2019, 10:27 pm

I came across a highly offensive post where the poster blamed the person for their depression as a mind loop and gave them the toughen up rhetoric which is what people who don't have depression resort to when they want to blame the victim rather than be supportive. Depression, especially bipolar, is a disease caused by brain chemistry, environment and when you blame the sufferer of the disease you dismiss them as weak and are more likely to push them more toward suicidal idealization. I know from experience and if you don't want to be responsible for possible pushing someone closer to death than being silent about your arrogant, self-centered position of blaming the person suffering. You don't get cured magically of depression and for some people, it goes away because that is how their biology, psychology and brain chemistry work yet for the majority of us it is something we have to learn to live with.

Getting up in the mourning where I have to go to a job that pays next to nothing and I am not allowed to even make much because I have to keep my health insurance where I constantly deal with people and I live in an overcrowded house because the cost of living is insane and the self-centered and greedy keep us in a poor trap is like trying to escape the depths of hell for me every single day. It would actually help if society would take responsibility, provide a strong safety net, universal healthcare including psychiatric care, provided at least bare minimum affordable housing, food assistance, stop penalizing us for working when it comes to receiving aid, allow us to have more money, etc. but instead lets freaking blame the bearer of the disease than make a nation that works for all of us instead of a handful of spoiled rotten brats who never worked a day in their life.

You want to know why there are so many depressed people look at the prospect that in all likelihood you will spend your life overworked, underpaid, exhausted, miserable and kept in perpetual debt only to look forward to death because life is so miserable and corporations will do everything in there power to make sure you die early to keep profits up. The environment is one of the biggest contributors to depression not rather they are positive or not because I have met some miserable positive people. I am sorry but to tell me to be positive about having to live that miserable existence I am insulted. The vast majority of the country are no better than slaves but without healthcare, shelter or food except a tiny morsel given.

People with depression need someone to listen, someone to care and not blame them for the reason they feel the way they do. We need the right kinds of medication which make our treatment plans next to impossible to achieve because of the for-profit healthcare system which restricts access to countless drugs we cannot even try because of greed, lack of access to psychological assistance, testing for autism, access to life skills assistance. Medicare if you can even get it is still severely limited despite its vast popularity and if you get it you are required to be in severe poverty living with a ton of people despite that being extremely aggravating to most of us.

We need to be able to take time when we need it while going through a crisis without worrying about how to pay for the bills. We need jobs that don't aggravate our symptoms which aggravate depression. We need to not be overwhelmed by sensory issues and being around too many people. We need people to understand our communication differences and difficulties. Don't shrug off hardships as something you just need to get over as if a bandaid solution. It's even worse when you have CPTSD or PTSD alone. Are you going to blame those suffering from those conditions for their trauma?

If you want to post some survival of the fittest ideology than move on because most of us know you are full of it and that is no excuse to treat someone less than human because YOU think they should expire because they are not "strong" enough. Don't come back with personal responsibility arguments either when its society, neurotypicals and those with healthy minds that won't take responsibility for helping to create environments that aggravate and create depression and bipolar through their environment. Please be courteous and think before you offer that kind of sadistic, self-centered advice. The just think positive ideology is evil and dismissive of real problems and is the most negative advice you could give someone :evil:



ElabR8Aspie
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03 Mar 2019, 1:46 pm

“The lotus is the most beautiful flower, whose petals open one by one. But it will only grow in the mud. In order to grow and gain wisdom, first you must have the mud --- the obstacles of life and its suffering. ... The mud speaks of the common ground that humans share, no matter what our stations in life. ... Whether we have it all or we have nothing, we are all faced with the same obstacles: sadness, loss, illness, dying and death. If we are to strive as human beings to gain more wisdom, more kindness and more compassion, we must have the intention to grow as a lotus and open each petal one by one. ”
― Goldie Hawn


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jifmam j jasond
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04 May 2019, 12:02 am

I know the "toughen-up" speech as "just straighten up and fly right you little bastard!" from my useless pseudo-caregiver "parents".
I would then often indulge in a bit of homicidal reverie involving him and a high cliff at Point Fermin in San Pedro
with me mockingly calling down "so let's see how easy it is for YOU to fly right, you insensitive prick!"
but I didn't want to waste the valuable gravity that would be consumed in crushing him to a bag of loose hamburger mixed with bone chips on the rocks below. Not to mention possible damage to important rocks.