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Flamewar...

wtf are you?

I have heard these "boyfriend" rumours about a thousand times now, and it is getting rather boring.

Quoted from Ascan.


This is 100% true. I feel now that I am severely restricted as to which message boards I can post on, since the Intensity leadership have admin posts on a number of other sites. For some people with AS, the internet is their only form of social interaction, and to be chased off the internet in such a manner is an injustice.

To Peegai's earlier comment to "stay off the internet" - I will not be intimidated by people like you and your "superiors". I intend to use the internet with the expectations that I will not be attacked and harrassed by cyber-thugs. I will see to it that Intensity is ground into dust. We will win this battle, Peegai, whether you and your buddies like it or not. It may take time, but we will succeed.

Its funny how you people accuse Ascan of being Mr Negative. It is you that are the cynics, not him. It is you that accept bullying and thuggery as a fact of life, not us. We reject such notions as the paranoia of a select group of individuals bent on clinging to power on a disgraced and discredited website that is in danger of being shut down.

Indeed, omega, Ascan, and myself are ridiculed on Intensity because we are idealists who reject your world-view. You are frightened of what Intensity could have been if we were in charge. You are still frightened of us even though we have been effectively banned. Duncvis is behaving like Saddam Hussain - completely delusional, clamping down on criticism by banning people from the sites he has control over. He will not succeed, and his fall will only be harder the more he tries to prevent it.

I was speaking to my support worker the other day about Intensity and Duncvis. She has over 25 years experience in the field of autism and knows what she is talking about. She said it was "very worrying" the fact that Duncvis has so much power over so many forums, and a very poor environment for people with AS, who should be able to switch forums if they have a disagreement on one of them. She said that she knows several people in the autism profession who would be "very angry" at the injustices I have received. Duncvis, you have been warned....

The fact that it's boring doesn't make it less true. Why don't you ask her?

Back it up, then, or remain Ascan's puppet.



Empty threats. I'm sure that your support worker, as well as the "people in the autism profession", will check out both sides of the story before doing anything. Wouldn't you agree that it's the fair thing to do, comrade?

So far, you might as well have been holding your breath in protest.

Identify yourself, coward. Or are you going to hide behind a mask like all the rest of Intensity.

As regards omega, I have quizzed her about it several times, and in all cases, I have reached the same conclusion: that this is a convenient ploy to strike at my achilles heel - nothing more.

My threats are not empty. I am sure my support worker has read all there is to read, and found no credible defense on your part, or she would have mentionned it. To yourselves, you are 100% credible and just, but to the rest of the civilised world, you are crooks, fraudsters, and bullies. The internet does not make you immune. I would be worried if I were you. If there was a way to strike you legally, I would (and sue Duncvis for every penny he has ever received off the state), but unfortunately that is not possible. I have suffered considerable psychological distress from the actions of people on your site, and if your usernames were sueable entities, they would be very sueable indeed.

Forgive me, but I've come to this party late. I was here earlier, but left when it degenerated into something more appropriate to Intensity.

Again, forgive me, but I do not believe you have suffered any damages from reading information on your computer, and if you have it is soley your responsibility. If you have been humiliated as a result of posting certain information about yourself, you have my sympathy, but these are the consequences of your choices, the very definition of karma. Now that you're wiser as a result of the experience, you'll make wiser choices in the future.

Maybe the reason your support worker did not tell you is the same reason Queen Omega has not told you the whole truth about her RELATIONSHIP yet, Robert. That she loves you like a little brother and does not want to hurt you by forcing you to see the truth. Maybe she tried to tell you the best way she could, but you believe only what you want to believe. Or maybe she is trying to figure out how to tell you.

That's very simplistic. Yes, they are consequences of choices, but they are made within the social and legal context of a 21st century western democracy where it's assumed others will, generally speaking, observe basic laws and social standards. For example, if I submit my credit card details, or other personal information, to a reputable online retailer, then someone with nefarious intent gains access to their system and uses the information I supplied to cause me loss, then although that is a consequence of my choices, I would expect most reasonable people would accept that the fault was not mine as my choices alone did not cause the loss, and although I could have considered the possibility of such a loss occuring, I would also be aware that the risk would have been reduced considerably by the fact that those actions that could potentially be taken to my detriment would be against the law, and also against the mores of our society — theft is generally considered wrong.

Compare that with someone with AS who joins a support site to make friends, and posts personal information in an area designated "secure". If someone with nefarious intent then joins that site, gains access to the secure area, downloads the image file posted by the person with AS, then publishes them on Intensity² in order to humiliate the person, is that not similar to the above? Although the actions committed against them could have been considered a possibility by the person with AS, he would have likely decided that considering they were illegal actions (copyright law), and actions that were not considered generally acceptable according to the mores of our society, that he could post the personal information with reasonable peace of mind.

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Last edited by ascan on 18 Oct 2006, 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

not too smart, ascan. tipping your hat like that.

Callaway, you seem content to patronise me like a little kid, and I will not stand for it. You seem so convinced that you are in the right, that you make up silly stories about omega, Ascan, and now my support worker (who you have never met, know no information about, and are never going to know any information about). You are clutching at straws, madam. Why can't you just have the guts to admit that your site has screwed over a few people, and apologise. If you did that, I would be happy to accept, and you would probably never hear from me again. It is adding insult to injury. First several Intensity members harrass me and screw me over, and then they refuse to admit that anything wrongful was done. How do you think that makes me feel?

Your tactics are so low. Instead of any reasoned debate on what constitutes bullying and what does not, you resort to cheap shoots preying on my weaknesses. What does it matter about Ascan's or Omega's private lives, anyway. It has nothing to do with the debate in hand. I could make up all sorts of conspiracy theories of my own about Peegai porking Lucifer, or orgies involving HG, Jizz and PaedoMac, but I don't. That is too low.

Mr Mark, I appreciate the input, but if you look a bit more closely at my last post, you can see that I actually stated that it was impossible to sue Duncvis. However, if I could sue him, I would have no moral qualms about doing so, even though it would cost him more money than he has ever received, and he could possible end up homeless as a result of the debts.

Who I am is not important. What I say, is.



She doesn't know how to break it to you, and you don't want to listen. My guess is that you are doing it to avoid the pain.



But it isn't too low to call Peter MacKenzie names, or post as HG at Aspie Trash? Grow up, comrade, see what's happening around you.

As for this little tidbit:



You're not sure, are you? See, comrade, it does matter, as long as they continue using you, as long as you remain their puppet. Willingly or not, that's what you are. You are a tool, a lucky break for Ascan and his conspiracy theories.

Since you prefer to hide behind a mask, I am tempted not to even address your comments, as you are too cowardly to be addressed. What are you afraid of - that Alex might ban you again if he discovered your identity?

You people (Intensity) are all the same. Most of you have no life and no achievements to speak of, so you spend your time attacking people who do have these things, dragging down their self-esteem until they become as wreched as you.

I state again, omega actually has very little to do with this idea. This campaign is mine. It is me behind it, it is me that is planning it, and it will be me who implements it. Omega is my dear and trusted friend who is providing moral support, and that is it. I am sure she would rather I left the whole business alone now, but I insist on seeing justice done, and believe you me, justice will be done In The End.

But why I am explaining this to you. You are so small and insignificant that you would rather not be seen. You prefer to spread dirty rumours around about my friends and not even have the courage to have your face put to your words.

As regards Peter, I was not being nasty. He obviously has an attraction to young girls and I would advise him to see psychiatric help for it. Otherwise why would he be so keen to post what looked like underage porno pics all over both Intensity and DivaD's forum.

As regards HG, any dirty attacks on HG's charactor by myself were done on the heat of the moment as a result of months of her trying to trying to tear me and omega's relationship apart. You on the other hand have engaged in a cold, calculated hate campaign against me, with no motive except that perhaps that I come from a more priviledged background than most of you and the fact that I have a loving family: two things perhaps you seem to resent.

Admit it, I have got you rattled. Otherwise, why would you bother to come onto WP to fight against myself and Ascan. I sense fear in you, and if I were you, to ensure Intensity's future, perhaps it would be a good idea to apologise to all the various victim's of your group instead of this stubborn attitude that you are faultless and we are somehow in the wrong for being victims.

Can you get any lower than that? Bully.

You disappoint me, RobertN. For a while I actually thought you were a nice guy.

RobertN, remember there is great dignity in forgiveness. Usually the first person to step back from an agrument and forgive is the one with greater nobility.

If you, omega, and ascan think you can better run a board that remains devoted to the original purpose of Intensity, namely to give the most socially dysfunctional rejects of rejects a home, a voice, and a sense of self-determination (remember that the neurolands boards of which Intensity was originally part were part of the snowball effect of William Freund), then you ought to go head and do that. But if all you have in your heart is destruction and vengeance, then you are following the same path as the bullies that tormented almost all of us here.

I'm sorry your pictures were "stolen" from you; I never saw that thread before it was edited so I don't know how bad it was. But MrMark is right when he says that once you post something on the internet, you are basically relinquishing control of it. I know I've posted pictures of myself that I probably shouldn't have , but oh well, they're out there .

RobertN, I'm sorry if I come across as patronizing, because I do not intend to patronize you. I intend to treat you like an intelligent adult. Since you did say that you went to an exclusive public school on an academic scholarship after your parent's divorce, I am sure that you are an intelligent and capable young man. The reason I seem so sure that I am right about Queen Omega's and Ascan's relationship is because I am right. You may think it is low of me to tell you this, but I think you should know the truth instead of holding on to a fantasy that will never happen. Even if the truth hurts, holding on to an impossible fantasy will only hurt you more in the long run. I hope that Queen Omega finds the courage to tell you the whole truth soon.


I think it was low for you to edit other people's posts on Aspie Trash to amuse yourself and to make the fake Hypnotica Gaze account there, RobertN. I resent the implication you made that anyone on Intensity ever did anything like that to you. I certainly did not, and neither did Duncvis. Do you realize that on Intensity², the name of the person who altered a post is at the bottom of the post, even if that person is an administrator? I didn't even edit the Hypnotica Gaze thread title that you changed, even though I noticed what you did right after you did it and I thought you would only cause trouble for yourself and everyone else by doing it.


If you think people bullied you by saying mean things to you, then maybe it was not a good idea to call three people out all at the same time and say mean things to them while you were doing it when they had done nothing to you at that time. Did you never think that they might all try to defend themselves in your call-out? Since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I will quote someone whose opinions you respect: at the moment, all i am seeing is some people - who behaved in an unpleasant way - crying about being "bullied" when all they were asked to do was to justify the way they behaved. my advice is that if you can't defend your actions, don't do it in the first place. and if you're going to go around being nasty to people, don't f**king cry about it when people criticise you for it.


I think it was very low of you to say that if you were able to do so, you would have no moral qualms against making Duncvis and his family homeless by suing them over a petty internet grudge. Are you aware that he has three young children? What could his three little children have possibly done to you that they deserve to be made homeless? This kind of talk makes you look cruel, vindictive and immature. Duncvis has not made any money for hosting Intensity². It has cost him money from his own pocket and he did it to be a nice guy when we had nowhere else to go after the first Intensity went down. He does not deserve this treatment.