Are mods kept an eye on? How are they selected? Any vetting?

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Well I also agree with Camping Cat. This is an autistic forum for people across the broad spectrum.

If someone puts in voluntary hours for this role, take back some, whilst the rest of us swallow our pride before we end up saying something we may thoughtlessly regret later on.

Do you really think we are all stupid, blind and naiive? Site suggestions and feedback, are they read?
Why do we have cloudfare, hmm...to shut us..up and drone us all out? This site is ancient, of course it needs someone's backing, its a state of the art multi-conventional fourm!

Y'all can all support who you like only I'm saying its no point cybercreeping people out for no reason, unless its to instill the peace.

That mod who just blamed me for an attack (what attack!?) never even read the thread. It was getting super weird anyway.

I wonder if this happens all the time, I write my views, I get quoted and maimed and then when i try to explain myself,
the example of the naughty step for grown adults appear!
If someone deliberately 'picks me out' for no reason, I could just as easily call out;(if I had to.)

Are these mods ex cyber criminals too? and, does this xcuse anyone for poor conduct and taking sides?
If someone says they can post whatever they like in threads, does that equate to taking more sides or less?

This is mindless distribution. If i thought someone else was being lashed on my threads, i would read what they said and come to my own resolution.

what hope is there for new members?

I forgot there was a civil war brewing over here.

By no means am I going to get the last word, and don't want to either.
I'll let Al have the last say.

I'm sort of torn because while there are certainly instances where merging threads is appropriate, I also think that there is a risk of it being over done. I also think that while we certainly should be changing thread titles that vioilate the rules, it's a bit of an overstep to change titles because a moderator doesn't think the title is accurate. . .

Keep in mind that all of are moderators are volunteers and the job is really thankless. No one says anything when things are running smoothly, despite the fact that moderators deserve thanks for that. People only speak up when they have an issue with something.

With that said, I feel like we moderators maybe should relax our involvement in terms of moving, locking, and merging threads and focus only on trying to deal with abusive comments, personal attacks, and actual rule violations.

I also think that some threads are not really "bait" threads in terms of intention but might seem that way to other people. So we should probably just let stuff go if it isn't flagrant.

On the other hand, if you are sending confrontational posts to moderators, why on earth would you expect them to go to bat for you? Moderators are human and they are not going to want to help you if you don't treat them with respect.

I think that things might have been a little on the authoritarian side before and maybe we should try to strive for a happy medium between back then when things were super strict and the time when things became somewhat anarchic.

One thing I have to say is I'm somewhat sickened with the number of members who see Donald Trump as a viable choice for this country, considering the amount of hate his campaign has fomented.

I don't want a reward either for bringing this up, as I am merely trying to open channels of communication that were left shut or unfinished.
If I'm responsible for anything, it's for being myself, and I've not been the only one pleading what i've not been involved with.

If I've become a mockery for attractive guilt i think that maybe I've spared someone else the favour.

I can let the stuff go, even if it was only mildly there in the first place.

I'll put my name down for relef mod..only if things fall exactly into the non-chaotic samaritan phase I know this site is
capable of.

I was probably off to Mootoo in earlier weeks too, so I'm sorry for that.

^^Sorry, carry on.

While performing a search, last night, on this site, I found that I was wrong for accusing a Mod for deleting my post, and replacing it. It seems the person who had started the thread, had cross-posted, at least, THREE times. When I saw the thread title again, I assumed it was the one in which I had posted, and thought that my post had been deleted----but, it had NOT, because it was in a different forum; then, later, when I saw the thread title again, it WAS the thread in which I had posted, and therefore, thought my post had been replaced. I apologize.

@ Adamantium: I've been waiting all weekend for you to return my post to its original state:

http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=327253&p=7260605#p7260605

My post, that you changed, is 2 above the one in that link.

In light of Alex's last post, on this thread, stating things, like: "overdone", "overstep", and "we moderators maybe should relax our involvement"----even though he used those terms, regarding OTHER issues----I feel it applies to your changing my formatting. Would you please, at your earliest convenience, change it back to my original formatting.

@ Alex: I'm very appreciative of your speaking, several times, PUBLICLY, on this matter----THANKYOU!!

The OP has nearly as many threads as he does posts.
It must be an attention thing.

In some further response to my mega threads, which would be about Brexit, some of the publicity was raked up out of hand and streamed continuously.
That said, I made a few unappolegetic political comments, but thats just me expressing views, I'm careful to avoid the political trap of falling into one sided debates and, critiscisms branching out onto unfamiliar territory that us Brits are not expecting, but await the pending arrival of.
Some remarks though, had to be questioned remotely or answered fully as there are some double sided players who switch sides or try and change their
grass roots, because I'm not one of them , I err on the side of reason with mixed caution as to the messages relayed.
I will defend my country no matter what its been involved in, that I forget to draw back on some of the comments I make, and before I know it, someone elsehas posted and I'm timed out of earshot on my last remark. So, if I can't willingly change it, I certainly don't want someone else to 'tidy up' as it were, especially if its only a mild comment, as it makes it look like you are incapable of making a consistant truth appear less visible.

Like some of the members have said, you shouldn't alter the remarks of the poster, but if free speech is illegal why construct a forum to begin with?
Only mindless vicious attacks should be alerted to straight away, in terms of fluent abusive comments and violent gestures.
If someone just accuses me of one small thing I wasn't even aware of, like changing subject (via autism traits) I'm not going to bat an eyelid, but most people like to think out loud and maybe the custom rank forbids
any action being taken, but if no one knows who the real players are, no one can make these rules applicable to all because they're just not soundproof enough, and they're just hurtling through the sound barrier at a million miles an hour, and nothing is happening really.

Women will have different views to men, so its not discriminating to bring up painful truths of either sex in order to move this forum on.. and on other grounds the same.

I'm glad someone is raising this debate as it should be taken seriously.

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With that said, I feel like we moderators maybe should relax our involvement in terms of moving, locking, and merging threads and focus only on trying to deal with abusive comments, personal attacks, and actual rule violations.
We should probably just let stuff go if it isn't flagrant.

We should try to strive for a happy medium between back then when things were super strict and the time when things became somewhat anarchic.



The wisest speaker has spoken truth and wisdom. Move with the times and you won't get side stepped, you can't share mojitos on a sandy beach when no star ranking has been met, as well as raising a glass if all non-smoking conditions haven't yet be finalised.
When site control has merged with democratic standards of members I think we can all raise our glasses to that.

i have never had any trouble with moderators. the last warning i got was about my insulting post in the "post a picture of the real you" thread, and i found it educational in a way to be reprimanded for my lack of sensitivity, and so i think moderators are chosen wisely.

one may think that people like "fnord" would be good moderators, but they have personality quirks that make them not widely able to moderate all forms of communication, and so i think the general characteristics of moderators are that they are versatile and adjusted well to normalcy of confluent and civil conversation.

i sometimes post stuff that is seriously insulting to people, and the moderators just remove it and tell me it was inappropriate, and i agree, but i feel they make allowances for me and that is well. i have been warned many more than 3 times by moderators about the content of my posts, but i have not suffered the automatic banning which many others do on their third "violation".

this is a good place and the people who steward it in my opinion are well selected.

Your country is entering into a Nazi-like phase.

yeah i do not think you thing well

yeah i do not think you think well. you are obsessed with sex and s**t and that is a shame because you have a good brain otherwise but that's just the way the cookie crumbles i guess

Hi, TheSpectrum----THANKS, for responding!! I didn't mean THIS thread, though----I meant the thread from where I thought my post had been removed. The OP of THAT thread, only just registered this month, and has made only a handful of posts.

I beg to differ on keeping those on who need more than one style of Jeeves help. The quirks are not telling members off for voicing a totally different point of view to their favourite namesakes. Some members .. do like to take on bigger tasks, but I fear that the amount of shared vigour would expose some weaknesses to the masses.

It takes a real people person to side with everyone or to sit out a scene that plays down the part of ignorance.
Maybe a thankless task, does get thanked in small ways, maybe accepting that you have to tread lightly and yet forcefully, makes the objective of being a spoilsport a little less exclusive. (At least to me).

I don't actually remember B9 making insensitive judgements, but I see you are under pressure to maintain the rule book under politically trying circumstances.

Also, Article 50 is not going to be evoked for some time as PM May sees fit to resume after all the other major elections have slowly died down.

And what if my earliest convenience is never?
Just kiding!

I'll put your post back in the strange, confusing way that you originally edited it.

^^ Wow. Well, I just saw where you put my post back to its original state, and because I think it's VERY important to thank someone who does a good job, I rushed right over here to thank you----but, how can I thank someone who just put-down my decision to post the way I do, by saying it is "very weird" and "strange"?

Here's the thing..... IMO Moderators shouldn't be injecting their PERSONAL opinions into things. They have the rules for this site, PPR, and The Haven, etc.----PLUS, the guidelines Alex posted behind the scenes for the Mods to follow----and, that should be the ONLY things, IMO, that steers their decisions when they mod. I know----I know----that's easier said than done, sometimes, but..... My posting the way I do, makes it easier for me (and I would think, OTHERS) to keep-track-of what particular comment I'm responding to----if you, PERSONALLY, don't like it, don't format your posts that way. I don't understand why you thought it was difficult to read----because I post in a different color----but, we're not all alike, are we!

IMO, a Mod is in an authoritarian position----BUT, like that of a TEACHER, who guides, NOT like that of a TYRANT, who dictates. Mods are, IMO, held to a higher standard----one of more maturity, more wisdom, more logic, etc.----so.....

Thanks, for restoring my post----NO thanks, for the snarky-ness.