aspyoz wrote:
Speaking as one of the likely *offenders* referred to throughout this argument
Apart from one person who IS a serial mod whinger (yes ive used the word whinger a few times) and who is quite capable of character assassination or implying you're a liar with sometimes the next breath after PM'ing a mod (repeatedly, and i might add after sometimes altering his/her own posts to appear less attacking (interesting to watch him/her alter when he/she doesnt think you ever hit F5) and sometimes 4 or 5 times to give a final impression that he/she was being victimised or being misunderstood. Add to this the PM's you also get that run the same gamut, nice/irate/nice, sometimes while the aforementioned post changes are occuring) and then factor in that some of us have given the benefit of the doubt and been accepting of this person more than a few times, especially when the person first started posting, until some of us HAD to avoid including him/her to avoid unpleasantness, and i think that you're painting the problem sticker on the wrong people here), i think its very hard to demonstrate where anyone who has come amongst the more *regular* posters hasnt been welcomed and been given every opportunity to take part. I'll wager theres more evidence both overt AND implied that the person above has caused more upset than any of the *regular* posters combined and then multiplied at least twice.
And anyways, we dont dictate what others do, and to infer in some way we do is just madness or mispresentative of how i, and i assume others, view their place or identity at WP.
I don't even need to name the person referred to above, everyone who was in the supposed group knows and the pity is that the mods know as well, and we're getting censured? Add to that we've also show the same consideration in overlooking and trying to re-engage with a few other people who have displayed variable personalities (one nutty rampant christian who got suspended once only to reappear and start straight back up where he left off attacking people, and even then that person was afforded a fresh start from everyone in this "group"), and i think you're lowballing our ability and willingness to embrace others who perhaps lack our level of social interaction or comfort.
Well we can't type for them and help them out, we cant formulate thoughts on their behalf to fit in with a topic, and we cant create experiences for them if they dont happen to have one that is in context with what the current topic or mini topic of the thread is (i accept that changing from the original topic IS not ideal nor correct, but life happens). I only post in threads where i know going in what the topic is, and i know i can contribute in some way or add to the shared experience. And i am willing to adapt if things go tangental. No one forces me to stay if theres a sudden change, and ive yet to see anywhere where an earlier topic hasnt been revived with no blood spilt, and often to be engaged upon by others who missed it the first time round.
Just how responsible do you mods want to make us for others roadblocks in posting? Short of being a happy bunch who like to have a laugh and are totally open to anyone joining in, i dont see what we're expected to do....are we supposed to act like walmart greeters (do they still have those) and be plastic and give everyone the forum equivalent of a fake smile. Do i have to wear a vest?
All i have seen this conversation do is further marginalize people who interact better on here with others than they can in real life (personally im selectively mute in real life and couldnt have conversations even half as long with real folk as easily as on here), the ones who have found comfort and friendship have now been made to feel social lepers here as well. This whole saga has also left those of us who deal with depression in an even fouler mood than we ought to be. In the space of a week i have noticed people who would normally be upbeat and sociable become withdrawn.
Is that really the aim of WP?
This is the last post im making on the subject, its still a discussion post, because for me anything beyond this will be an argument, i really prefer no to get into those.
I am pretty sure that is me and my actions on the Stromfront Trolls thread. I had some serious issues when I first started on this forum but I think most of them are under control by now, especially with the redundancies and trying to tone down the attacks (I edited them because I felt sorry I did it; what does F5 do?).
EDIT: I am not sure what you mean by PM'ing mods though. I never did that until after the one thread I made.
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28 Apr 2011, 8:52 am
Take everything written with a grain of salt, sand, or what ever your favourite grit is. Even me. WP is a pleasant diversion, and I am very grateful it is here, as I remember a time when internet fora did not exist. Life is too precious to worry about trivia, so do not get excited about some person's Ayn Randy rant, or some dude who thinks Obama's membership in US politics is a long form discussion. 
