Making it Better: The future of WP

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Apparently I need to get better at playing the victim like some of our fragile racists seem to have mastered.

Something simple like ... "It cannot my fault because I am an Aspie"?

Group hug!

I wasn't implying that you were implying that I had been implying any implied implications about Fnord. I just wanted to comment in general, that when I've seen people discussing him it's been because he requested feedback. Again I could be wrong, and maybe there's more I didn't see. I'm not downplaying anyone's concerns with him or any other member, but I'm also not blaming him or any other member for what's happened. It's been a combination of issues stemming from the top down, and primarily due to Alex's absence.

It seems like everyone has been able to express their frustrations in whichever way they've needed, and I hope that no one feels singled out. That has certainly not been my intention, because the one and only goal I've had in my comments is to make WP a more user-friendly place.

WP means the world to me. I think a lot of us feel the same way, or we wouldn't be commenting and trying to help in the first place. Bender has made excellent comments about "sitting down together" to resolve any longstanding issues that people may have with other members, including the mod team. If both parties could adopt the practice of ignoring each other's posts without comment, and the mantra of "do no harm" (or potential, possible, unintended harm), I think that would go a long way to set us on the right course.

This can be a turning point for all of us with new Admin. Wouldn't it be great if people could apologise, wipe the slate clean so to speak, and use this summer as a learning opportunity. I would love that, and I'm sure others would too. I'm sorry if anyone thinks I'm beating the same drum too many times but I truly want everyone to feel included, safe, and valued on Wrong Planet. That's our goal as a support site and it's certainly my goal as a contributor to this thread.

Who are the fragile racists who play victim?

Naming names is a good way to get further harassment.

Last edited by League_Girl on 20 Aug 2020, 1:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Was not referring to you. I can't recall ever calling you sly, whether the user here or the adjective. You're nothing like the user sly, and you're very direct, not sly in actions. I can't name names because user is sensitive.

Oh that was years ago and I wasn't referring to sly279. I meant the word sly.

But it's long forgotten. No worries.

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He's referring to user sly.

Hint: Look for posts submitted by, or threads started by people who maintain that: (1) Racism is not a problem, (2) Racist behavior is normal, and/or (3) Racist people are just "misunderstood".

I am not saying or implying that any specific people are racist, but only that those 3 tendencies I mentioned may be common to racist people.

Last edited by Fnord on 20 Aug 2020, 1:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.

People get their knickers in a twist every time I say that I care very little for someone's intentions compared to their actions and the consequences that result from them. Personally, I couldn't care less if someone causes me harm with the best of intentions, they won't get a second chance to do it. Nor am I particularly fussed if someone ill-intended ends up doing me a favour. But most people don't think like this, I'm aware.

The thing is, due to the nature of this environment, we have words, not actions per se. The difficult part for me was evaluating what consequences my words can have: when someone accuses me of ill intent, I first try to see if there's a misunderstanding and if they persist in making accusations or telling me I make their situation worse, I just let them be.

When I joined the forum I was much blunter and harsher and while I sincerely believed I was being helpful, I discovered that in some cases I hurt people. I did what I could to repair that even if it wasn't always possible.

There are still a few people around (really just a few) whose posts make me nuclear and I know there are a few people who seem to react in a similar manner to me I just stay away from them and for the most part, they do the same. The problem here seems to be with people who can't stay away from each other.

TLDR: I don't think we'll make much progress by dissecting people's intentions and motivations. But when somebody establishes a certain pattern of behaviour, they'll get less trust and more suspicion. I know I've been lied to here and some people tried to gaslight or manipulate me. There have been snide remarks and insinuations and few who actually told me to go F myself*.

I never reported, I can handle myself, but it did influence the opinion I formed about these people. And we should keep in mind that while I can defend myself and keep my cool, others can't. It would be sad to see a "survival of the fittest" attitude on a forum like this, very ironic too.

*None of that from you, of course.

Last edited by BenderRodriguez on 20 Aug 2020, 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

+10.
I have a few things to catch up with here tomorrow morning, such as finding the things you have referred to in PM.


^BR: you're one of the most constructive posters here.

No, he hasn't said anything of that nature in quite awhile. He is not who I am referring to.




Fnord gets it.

I'm surprised. How you doing anyway?

Exhausted. You?

I'm doing very well, thank you.