Has WP been hostile to gays?

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It's not a full-blown argument yet??

You don't have an argument, dear, you have lies and conjecture. Now, however, Ascan's got a correct dx.

On the contrary, all you've done is exposed your own spitefulness; hardly a good tactic when you're trying to argue that I've misrepresented the behaviour of the average member of Intensity.

Not quite. Almost. So get back ON-TOPIC, YOU LOT.

((Now, it's full-blown. Oh, yeh, oops.))

I thought a lot of Aspies were gay, so why would they be hostile to gay be people? I mean people have their opinions, but as a whole I would think WP would not be hostile.

agreed.

my first impression of many of the male members is that they are middle-aged homosexual males.

LOL. That just sounded funny for some reason...

I have to ask true as this is , is it really wise to admit things like this here? Surely if your enemies read this they will simply chuckle in triumph at how badly they "powned" you, instead of feeling ashamed. Thats what I would expect anyway.

Well, I'm not laughing.

Hey, Omega. You are going to deal with bastards and s**theads, like myself, all throughout your life -- online and off. Only thing you can do about it is to learn how to rise above it. I don't even know who you really are, or your acheivements, so why do you give a f**k with what the likes of me has to say to you? What's with all the threats to close a community down?

Well, if you succeed in this little crusade of yours and Ascan's, please do the same with the other message boards. There are communities out there that are a lot worse than what Intensity dishes out. I don't get special treatment on the internet for being autistic; I'm treated equally like everyone else online -- as someone you could care less about. So please tell RobertN from me to take the internet with a pinch of salt, or stay the hell the away from the internet altogether.

But aside from that, good luck with the relationship with Ascan. Hope you two become happy together.

TA, I'm sure there are a lot of communities out there that are a lot worse than Intensity; the difference is that they don't set out to recruit directly from other sites that have a high proportion of vulnerable people. Also, they don't claim to be sites for people with ASDs.

I did realise that I was putting myself in a vulnerable position when I wrote that post but, believe it or not, I actually held back from divulging some of the more intimate ways that past events on Intensity have affected me.

For me, this discussion is about much more than just winning an argument; it's about making potential victims aware of the threat that Intensity poses to their well-being. I certainly wouldn't have written what I did if I didn't think that the issue at stake was of vital importance.

I think that it is more likely that most people will be dismayed that Queen Omega was so deeply and badly affected by a few people who thought that she did not look pretty in a picture which she posted on the Internet, and that they hoped she was not dating a friend of theirs. When she posted the picture of herself later on Intensity, I think that she had several positive comments about it, but I guess the negative ones affected her more. My opinion of that picture is that she appeared to be a striking, attractive, strong, confident woman. I would not have guessed that her confidence could be shaken so easily.

I am glad that she has identified the source of her grudge against Intensity. I don't see this grudge as a reason for her and her clique to try to close Intensity down. She says that she expressed concerns about Fluorescent, that she saw him as another Will Freund and that she thought that he was being bullied. The problem with her arguments is that most people did not see the situation the same way she did. Not even Fluorescent himself, when he was asked by a friend about it, thought that he was being bullied. Queen Omega thought that she knew better than Fluorescent did, how he felt. Shouldn't the perspective of the supposed "bullying victim" count for more than the perspective of Queen Omega in this situation?

She says that her boyfriend Ascan was bullied and that is why he deleted all his posts on Intensity. If she is going to comment on a situation involving Ascan, I think that it is important that everyone know that her perspective in this situation may be biased by her feelings for him. I think Ascan deleted his posts because he realized that he could not back up his views in a debate in the Main Event on Intensity, so he decided to delete all the evidence, kind of the same way that a spiteful child who loses at a game of marbles takes all his marbles and goes home.

Ascan says that I know he has AS. How do I know this? How do I know that he does not have another diagnosis instead of or in addition to AS? Because he says so? All I know about him is what I have read. I do not know him intimately, like Queen Omega does. He says that I am trying to drive him and Queen Omega apart. How could I possibly do that, if it is true love? I think that she has done an excellent job defending him here.

perhaps when you were an administrator you could have thought about simple solutions like:
sending a personalized e-mail an pm to all new members instructing them on what the site was about.

seems easy enough. that way, all the vulnerable adults who need constanrt mommying would be warned prior to posting (in triplicate).

then those who want some real-life experience wouldn't have to be bothered by all the mommying.
mum.

The remarks made were vicious, spiteful and obviously contrived with the intention of causing hurt. Furthermore they were made by a member of yours who does not (by their own admission) have an ASD. You, Callaway, do not see the whole picture in this as you have not witnessed the other unpleasant treatment dished out by people like mcjagger to members earlier in Intensity's life. This pattern of harassment has been there since the start. Indeed, though you assert I have a grudge, I have stated my concerns about the organisation since the beginning, as mcjagger has acknowledged. In fact, you are fully aware of this as, I believe, I briefly touched on my opinions in a PM correspondence with you before I deleted my posts.

You risk dragging a Will Freund type into that place, Callaway, and yet you recklessly and negligently allow certain members to behave in a way that is at best unethical, and at worst illegal as regards their victimisation of easy targets. And you know we're not just talking about banter that's got a bit out of hand, but the kind of treatment that would never occur on any other AS site.




I deleted my posts because the guy who ran/owned the site at the time had said he wished to humiliate me. The reason he wished to do this was because I'd criticised the way he treated people. At the time no rules meant the admins could do want they wanted; he had admin privileges, I didn't. The person in question had previously embarked on campaigns against others that included allowing them to be called paedophiles, and taking picture they'd posted elsewhere and using them as his avatar on other sites. This was done on the original Intensity. Moreover, that person was an admin on several other sites I posted on. Is it surprising I deleted my posts? To be honest, it's a decision I don't regret; after weighing up all the evidence it was the correct thing to do.

Of course, that is just another illustration of what happens to those who criticise the organisation. The current leader has used his powers to temporarily ban me from OTS for suggesting he shouldn't be involved in the management of such a support site as members may find his presence threatening. Yesterday he banned me from another site that I'd not even posted on, though had joined as a member.

You people have far reaching influence, and as I said previously, some of you have an unhealthy interest in the IP addresses of those you wish to stalk. Your organisation is dangerous; what you do and allow is unethical and, on occasion, illegal.

As for your continued assertion that I'm omega's boyfriend, you really should try harder to disguise your jealously. Your insulting posts have the definite ring of the woman scorned.

And Ascan and I are the ones being accused of conjecture???

Callaway, you and I both know that what was said about the picture went a lot further than some people just saying that I "did not look pretty" and that they hoped I wasn't dating a friend of theirs. One of the worst remarks that was made was about how a man would have to have no respect for himself to f**k me. Now, this is one of the things that I chose to hold back in my previous post, but how do you think that comment made me feel as a former victim of sexual abuse?


Yes, because I have low self-esteem. Why do I have low self-esteem? Because I was severely bullied throughout my formative years. Why was I bullied? Because I have AS. My experiences are by no means unusual for the type of people posting on these boards.


Again, Ascan and I are the ones being accused of manipulation and conjecture? There is no lack of consistency in my opinions because I have always defended the 'underdog' and the socially-disadvantaged.


But I thought that the membership of Intensity had established that everything Fluorescent says is a load of delusional gibberish? Suddenly his word is gospel when it appears to support their argument?

They may have convinced someone as socially-naive as Fluorescent that the way they were treating him was acceptable, but they will have a tougher job convincing me.

The fact that Fluorescent appears to have coped quite well with the treatment he received on Intensity is irrelevant anyway; the point is that Intensity's future victims may not cope with it as well as he did. And anyone who was a member at Intensity at the time will be aware that it was a close shave, as far as Fluorescent was concerned, because he was showing signs of being deeply agitated by people's actions for quite some time.


WTF? I never said that or anything even remotely like it!


You're the only one who's mentioned the 'L' word - this is just another tactic to put strain on our FRIENDSHIP, isn't it? But, since our friendship is made more fragile by the fact that we both have difficulties forming and maintaining relationships, I would appreciate it if you stopped dragging it in to the discussion in an attempt to compensate for your weak argument.


Suddenly it's all my fault? I've done far more to create awareness about the dangers of Intensity than any of the other administrators - hence the reason why I'm currently being raked over the coals for it. You're the one with the power on Intensity at the moment so, if you think you've got any ideas for improving things, then I suggest you get a move on with implementing them.

Anyway, your idea is not going to be much good whilst Intensity still promotes itself as an "Autistic Spectrum site" and recruits from places where there is a high amount of socially-isolated people. And do you really think that someone who is desperate to prove themselves and belong to something is going to take much notice of a personalised PM / e-mail? Is it even possible to convey in words the type of abuse they may be exposed to by joining Intensity? I know that I certainly didn't predict how cruel other people who claim to have AS could be; if I had, I wouldn't have agreed to be involved with Intensity in the first place (as an admin or as a regular member).


In what way does Intensity reflect real life (apart from the way that the elections are conducted and way that the people with the worst social skills are at the bottom of the pecking order)? In real life, laws are in place with the intention of preventing people from being treated the way they are on Intensity.

lies.

again. the only people that were messing with peoples stuff, included your friend, Queen Omega. i put my neck out protecting her right to a little fun, which it was.

no, you deleted your account because you couldn't back up your words.
then again, you deleted every post that you made, so, now there is no evidence.
convenient?

seems like paranoia to me.

you criticised the way i treated people, and you were wrong. it wasn't me. not one single one of your accussations were placed on the right individual.
ask, your friend, Queen Omega.

Aspoid, if any of my actions have upset anyone, then I offer them my sincerest apologies. I am not claiming that I have never done anything wrong but I have learned, from observing others on Intensity, that I may have been unnecessarily harsh to some people on a few occasions. However, my practical jokes were only aimed at those who I had a neutral relationship with and I have never taken any disagreements as far as some other people have done.