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21 Aug 2020, 1:16 am

Pepe wrote:
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There really are some people who perceive hostile intent where none exists.


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I would have gone with a past observation which has been immortalised through the use of the magical "print screen" functionality:
"Just because many WP members disagree with what is said by Conservatives does not make them Liberals. It just proves the fact that those very same WP members are perceptive enough to see what is really going, intelligent enough to know why it is going on, and wise enough to understand what it means"
But your observation works just as well.



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21 Aug 2020, 1:19 am

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When people have been talking about issues with bullying on this forum, it had been about Fnord all along?


No, not at all. I know some people see him as a bully but that should be handled by the mods.

The bullying against sly and some others mostly happened in the PPR, accompanied by a lot of trolling too: that was the work of others. Edit: and ended up spilling from there all over the place, including the Haven

There's also a recurring issue here when people see others breaking the rules without consequences and start doing the same thing, probably assuming the rule doesn't apply anymore. This isn't new and wasn't caused by Fnord.


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21 Aug 2020, 2:32 am

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Apparently I need to get better at playing the victim like some of our fragile racists seem to have mastered.
Who are the fragile racists who play victim?
Hint: Look for posts submitted by, or threads started by people who maintain that: (1) Racism is not a problem, (2) Racist behavior is normal, and/or (3) Racist people are just "misunderstood".

I am not saying or implying that any specific people are racist, but only that those 3 tendencies I mentioned may be common to racist people.


(4) People sometimes see racism where none exists.

I have been accused of being a racist, through heavy innuendo/implication, by one particular member, not in this conversation.
Am *I* a racist, my unrequited love?

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21 Aug 2020, 3:22 am

Fnord wrote:
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racism on this website is both subtle and insidious.
As is some of the bullying that occurs
Are you implying that I am disgustingly overweight?


I think he is implying you have a big Adam's apple. :scratch:

Steve1963 wrote:
I've been hanging out here for two months or so and I haven't seen anything I'd call bullying. Of course I'm not that observant according to my wife.


How often you visit the PPR and News forums? :scratch:

Oh_no_its_Ferris wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Oh_no_its_Ferris wrote:
Fnord wrote:
racism on this website is both subtle and insidious.
As is some of the bullying that occurs
Are you implying that I am disgustingly overweight?


I replied to you but it was not aimed at you, but I get the point you are trying to make and in some cases that's true


So he *IS* obese.
Huh... :chin:



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21 Aug 2020, 3:48 am

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There are ways to prove bullying----but there are times when one must be an expert linguist to prove it.  One must also be knowledgeable, say, about the idioms and subtleties of a particular language.  When I said "dissect," I should said "parse."
By what parsing protocols would you program a computer to determine that "Have a nice day!" is sarcasm?


It depends on the context/tone of the entire message.
If you are responding to a perceived attack, of some sort, and you make it clear you aren't going to wear it, sarcasm would not be unexpected.

I am sure you aren't like this <facetiousness>,
But I have people I consider friends and foes.
Your departing message might be different, depending on whom you are addressing.

Also, isn't the phrase "Have a nice day" usually dismissive, these days?
Isn't it fake politeness, unless you work at a place like Mac Donalds?

In Australia, I think it is often used as an American joke or a form of insincerity.

Anyway,
Enough of this.

"Have a nice day." :mrgreen:

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It's difficult to convey irony, sarcasm, etc. via written text. This is because you are not actually WITH that person in the same physical area as them.


What a pity there aren't any qualifiers available. <irony> :P :mrgreen: :jester:

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Have a nice day Kraftie me old bean.

which one is that 1-5 ?



Obviously, it is nasty and sarcastic, because I know your personality and I know you absolutely hate and are disgusted by KK. 8O
I think a ban is in order. :!:

Modic! <sic> :mrgreen:

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Racist people also do not know they are racist and they will downplay everything as you said. They will also list reasons for their racism always backing it up with logic and "facts."


I have been called implicitly a racist, constantly, by someone not in this thread conversation, so I *MUST* be a racist? :scratch:

League_Girl, Do you think I am a racist?



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21 Aug 2020, 4:17 am

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One of the kids I tutored in History was shocked and appalled when she read the accounts of King Philip's War in 17th-century North America.  She was under the false impression that English colonists and Native Americans always got along with each other.  When she found out that there was a deliberate and on-going effort to massacre Native Americans to take possession of their lands from the east coast to the west, she broke down in tears (I guess they just don't teach the "dark side" of history in public schools any more); but her senior essay on Colonial Imperialism earned her an A+ and a thousand-dollar scholarship grant.[/color]


Profiteering on the misery of others!
What a disgrace! 8O :mrgreen:



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21 Aug 2020, 4:27 am

Brictoria wrote:
"Just because many WP members disagree with what is said by Conservatives does not make them Liberals. It just proves the fact that those very same WP members are perceptive enough to see what is really going, intelligent enough to know why it is going on, and wise enough to understand what it means".

I have a tendency to find problems and issues in every idea (my husband uses me sometimes for checking his engineering ideas because of it) and people with strong something-wing affiliations tend to see me as their enemy when I point out logical fallacies or false assumptions in their reasoning...
But I do it in hope to refine and improve the reasoning and come to better solutions!

I've learned not to talk politics with some people.


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21 Aug 2020, 4:40 am

Pepe wrote:

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Racist people also do not know they are racist and they will downplay everything as you said. They will also list reasons for their racism always backing it up with logic and "facts."


I have been called implicitly a racist, constantly, by someone not in this thread conversation, so I *MUST* be a racist? :scratch:

League_Girl, Do you think I am a racist?


I haven't seen you make any racist comments or down play any race issues people of minority face so I can't say if you are one or not.


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21 Aug 2020, 5:08 am

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I've been hanging out here for two months or so and I haven't seen anything I'd call bullying. Of course I'm not that observant according to my wife.


How often you visit the PPR and News forums? :scratch:
Every. Single. Day.



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21 Aug 2020, 5:09 am

Nothing.


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21 Aug 2020, 5:10 am

Steve1963 wrote:
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I've been hanging out here for two months or so and I haven't seen anything I'd call bullying. Of course I'm not that observant according to my wife.

How often you visit the PPR and News forums? :scratch:
Every. Single. Day.

And how is your mental health doing?


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21 Aug 2020, 5:14 am

magz wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
Steve1963 wrote:
I've been hanging out here for two months or so and I haven't seen anything I'd call bullying. Of course I'm not that observant according to my wife.

How often you visit the PPR and News forums? :scratch:
Every. Single. Day.

And how is your mental health doing?
No worse than before I joined WP. I think I have a pretty thick skin.



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21 Aug 2020, 5:26 am

Steve1963 wrote:
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I've been hanging out here for two months or so and I haven't seen anything I'd call bullying. Of course I'm not that observant according to my wife.


How often you visit the PPR and News forums? :scratch:
Every. Single. Day.


Oh, so you must have a politically left-wing leaning. ;)



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21 Aug 2020, 5:32 am

Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
Steve1963 wrote:
I've been hanging out here for two months or so and I haven't seen anything I'd call bullying. Of course I'm not that observant according to my wife.


How often you visit the PPR and News forums? :scratch:
Every. Single. Day.


Oh, so you must have a politically left-wing leaning. ;)
I'm more in the center. I've never voted for a Democrat for President if that's what you're asking.



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21 Aug 2020, 5:40 am

To clarify, I've never voted for a Republican either.

But I digress...let's get back to the point of this thread, which is apparently bashing Fnord. :wink:



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21 Aug 2020, 5:48 am

Steve1963 wrote:
To clarify, I've never voted for a Republican either.

But I digress...let's get back to the point of this thread, which is apparently bashing Fnord. :wink:


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