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11 Mar 2007, 7:54 pm

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I don't recall you doing many offensive things. I do remember that big lady you posted though. Why don't you use the account you have now?


I can't use the username kahazidhea because I'm banned on that one. :( By the way, I would like to thank alternative and KBABZ for their support for me, if it weren't for their advice, I wouldn't be posting right now. :D



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11 Mar 2007, 8:20 pm

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See, this is what I was talking about in the "more mods" thread... how do you determine who or what exactly is a troll? Give Kahazidhea a one week trial period first, if you must. And I agree that atomika and he were completely different.


What did he do anyway?


He posted offensive and disturbing things.


Name them.


Most of the pictures you posted.


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11 Mar 2007, 8:36 pm

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I'm back guys, and I'm no troll like atomika. There's an infinite difference between me and him. As for big Bertha, that was a joke not porn.

There's a difference between "joke" and "intentionally offensive."
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putting my transgressions aside, I was liked by a lot of people and I'm here to stay.

That's not exactly up to you, is it?
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The only thing that I did that was a bannable offense was attacking Hale, which I apologized for and never did again.

Or haven't done again yet?

So you were liked. Criminals have had followings in the past, does that make their offenses "ok?" Last time I checked, having people that like you won't get you off of death row. Sure, that's an extreme comparison, but apologizing and the like is great in writing.

If you're going to "behave," great, everyone should get a second chance. A second chance shouldn't be expected, or considered "deserved" though. Using sites like this isn't a right.



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11 Mar 2007, 8:42 pm

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new_guy_64 wrote:
I'm back guys, and I'm no troll like atomika. There's an infinite difference between me and him. As for big Bertha, that was a joke not porn.

There's a difference between "joke" and "intentionally offensive."
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putting my transgressions aside, I was liked by a lot of people and I'm here to stay.

That's not exactly up to you, is it?
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The only thing that I did that was a bannable offense was attacking Hale, which I apologized for and never did again.

Or haven't done again yet?

So you were liked. Criminals have had followings in the past, does that make their offenses "ok?" Last time I checked, having people that like you won't get you off of death row. Sure, that's an extreme comparison, but apologizing and the like is great in writing.

If you're going to "behave," great, everyone should get a second chance. A second chance shouldn't be expected, or considered "deserved" though. Using sites like this isn't a right.


Aye, I for one will make sure he gets banned if he slips up in the slightest.


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11 Mar 2007, 9:32 pm

Someone's being a bit of a vigilante... :roll: flagg, it isn't up to you whether I get banned or not. That's up to Alex, not you.



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11 Mar 2007, 9:35 pm

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Someone's being a bit of a vigilante... :roll: flagg, it isn't up to you whether I get banned or not. That's up to Alex, not you.


Great attitude for when you're in the process of making amends. He did say if you slipped up...again. It isn't really your say, either, so why reply with this kind of nonsense unless you're looking for a fight? Or is that your goal?

Defend yourself with your actions, you should already understand that your words don't hold much at this point.



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11 Mar 2007, 9:37 pm

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Someone's being a bit of a vigilante... :roll: flagg, it isn't up to you whether I get banned or not. That's up to Alex, not you.


No, that's up to the mods, not just Alex. After the recent spamming attacks we just had, I am pretty against letting someone banned back in, even with a "please". Flagg isn't a mod, of course. But don't push your luck. You are on dangerous ground, in that you have admitted you were once banned.


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11 Mar 2007, 9:39 pm

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Someone's being a bit of a vigilante... :roll: flagg, it isn't up to you whether I get banned or not. That's up to Alex, not you.


Great attitude for when you're in the process of making amends. He did say if you slipped up...again. It isn't really your say, either, so why reply with this kind of nonsense unless you're looking for a fight? Or is that your goal?

Defend yourself with your actions, you should already understand that your words don't hold much at this point.


There are no actions here, only words shadexii. The only thing we can do is type; this isn't the real world.



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11 Mar 2007, 9:41 pm

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There are no actions here, only words shadexii. The only thing we can do is type; this isn't the real world.


So you are looking for a quarrel.

You don't have to respond to posts that point out you aren't all that trustworthy. That's an action. You can claim you've "reformed," those are words. Or do you need to continue this "discussion" until you feel you've "won?"

The attitude that here and the "real" world are entirely separate is usually the cause of this kind of trouble (and by that, yes, I mean people behaving as you did). You're at a computer, right? Well every single name is another person at a computer.



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11 Mar 2007, 9:44 pm

Sigh, this topic is getting messier by the post. :( I guess it would be better if this topic gets locked, then I can prove myself by posting on other topics.



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11 Mar 2007, 10:10 pm

Guys, can't you give him a break?! He's learnt his lesson (that's what jail is for), and he wants to make amends.

*award*


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11 Mar 2007, 10:11 pm

People get an infinite number of second chances here anyway because its rather simple to start a new account :)



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11 Mar 2007, 10:18 pm

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People get an infinite number of second chances here anyway because its rather simple to start a new account :)


yeah, which is also a problem, as has been shown in the past. If nothing else, he's stated who he is, which is a good sign. Someone just looking to stir things up further wouldn't do that kind of thing. The whole new_guy_64 thing, that's a bit odd though.



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11 Mar 2007, 10:34 pm

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Guys, can't you give him a break?! He's learnt his lesson (that's what jail is for), and he wants to make amends.

*award*


I have to say, I agree with KBABZ on this one. This is getting like a pack of wolves attacking the outsider. I know part of aspergers is this black and white thinking, and I can be guilty of it myself, but I also think that given aspergers ALSO includes making social mistakes and errors of judgement, there should be some leeway. I agree outright spammers like atomika should not be given more chances if they keep doing it,but I have seen people do worse than this guy, and they are still here! I shall not quote names. Having been banned from a spiritual forum, I know damn well how it feels to be on the receiving end of this sort of thing...an example of empathy from experience... I am surprised no one else here has had that enlightening experience.


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11 Mar 2007, 10:48 pm

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KBABZ wrote:
Guys, can't you give him a break?! He's learnt his lesson (that's what jail is for), and he wants to make amends.

*award*


I have to say, I agree with KBABZ on this one. This is getting like a pack of wolves attacking the outsider. I know part of aspergers is this black and white thinking, and I can be guilty of it myself, but I also think that given aspergers ALSO includes making social mistakes and errors of judgement, there should be some leeway. I agree outright spammers like atomika should not be given more chances if they keep doing it,but I have seen people do worse than this guy, and they are still here! I shall not quote names. Having been banned from a spiritual forum, I know damn well how it feels to be on the receiving end of this sort of thing...an example of empathy from experience... I am surprised no one else here has had that enlightening experience.


Well said graelwyn! :) Sadly, I'm still feeling like crap because of the flaming that has been going on in this thread. I'm starting to feel like I don't belong here. At least I have some forgiving people sticking up for me though. Trust me, I really appreciate that.



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11 Mar 2007, 10:54 pm

I missed Kahazidhea when he got banned. I didn't even know what he did wrong...