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01 May 2015, 1:29 am

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What WHO said was just one person's opinion of your behavior, OP.
Similar to your opinions of me being abusive and mean when I disagreed with you and another poster and suggested that your standards of moderation were too strict.
If you are free to have your opinions of other people and their behaviors, then other people are free to have their opinions of you and your behaviors.
These can all be shared in public on a forum, as they are all just different people's opinions.


Exactly!

Threatening people with reports to those who disagree with us is not an example of exemplary behaviour, and even less of getting cross and accusing of abuse those who get a bit irritated by such a behaviour. I'm not saying that mod's reaction in this case is impeccable, but neither is tagnacious'.

IMO, btbnnyr should get an apology as well if we'd be fair.



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02 May 2015, 1:08 pm

nts will say other nts are throwing a tantrum all the time. while it may not be a nice thing to do. i dont think it ridiculing a person for being autistic. word use doesn't' change just cause someone had tantrums in their past. though most everyone had tantrums as kids-teenage years. sorry you parents beat you. although a spanking wouldn't be beating.

spanking is still debated. mean non spanked kids are grown up to be selfish and mean, while spanked kids grew up to be responsible. though could be theres other causes to generation me. I personally would get stuck in a corner on on my bed and told I couldn't leave.

main point is I see "oh quiet throwing a tantrum" thrown at anyone who is upset by nts. so i don't think she was ridiculing you for being autistic. she might not have used that word is she known your past though. but we can't get too mad at people who use trigger words that don't know they'll trigger words to us. they just can't know especially if they hardly know us.



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02 May 2015, 8:20 pm

I just saw this.
I'm not apologising.
Tagnacious, you were using the report button as a tool to get even with people who disagreed with you. That isn't what it's for, and it wastes people's time when people do it.

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Accusing me of "throwing a tantrum" is so very destructive because you're basically making fun of me for my autistic traits. You're making fun of me for autism... on an autism community site. So everyone who reads that post will see that the moderators will make fun of you for being on the spectrum if they don't like what you've said to them. That's scary.


No, if I was making fun of you for anything, it was for behaving pettily and childishly.


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02 May 2015, 10:20 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
I just saw this.
I'm not apologising.
Tagnacious, you were using the report button as a tool to get even with people who disagreed with you. That isn't what it's for, and it wastes people's time when people do it.

I read that thread (on the topic of "Broader Autism Phenotype") after all the hoopla occurred. Based upon my interpretation, I don't believe you should apologize. From my vantage point, the OP was using “bully tactics” (i.e. threatening to report people to moderators) in order to control the flow of a thread. As far as I am aware, we can post anything we want in any thread (even if off topic), as long as we don't personally attack others. There were no personal attacks in that thread.

More importantly, btbnnyr is one of the “good guys” here. She does very important work as an autism researcher and is an invaluable contributor/resource. It would be a shame if she decided to leave because of stuff like this.



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02 May 2015, 11:17 pm

Help me moderator-wan. You're my only hope. Someone said something I don't like.

These lack of safe spaces are highly problematic.

Hug me.

Oppression and abuse!

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03 May 2015, 2:06 am

She wrote she is scared. I think she meant it and am sad for her.



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03 May 2015, 2:08 am

Waterfalls wrote:
She wrote she is scared. I think she meant it and am sad for her.


Sorry, who is scared of what?



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03 May 2015, 2:28 am

Booyakasha wrote:
Waterfalls wrote:
She wrote she is scared. I think she meant it and am sad for her.


Sorry, who is scared of what?

I'm not saying she's right but Tag wrote she felt she was being made fun of and that it was scary and then she wrote her parents beat her for years and just made me sad for her.



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03 May 2015, 2:39 am

Waterfalls wrote:
Booyakasha wrote:
Waterfalls wrote:
She wrote she is scared. I think she meant it and am sad for her.


Sorry, who is scared of what?

I'm not saying she's right but Tag wrote she felt she was being made fun of and that it was scary and then she wrote her parents beat her for years and just made me sad for her.


i'm sorry but she was the one threatening the other person with the report since they were disagreeing with her - she was being abusive as well. Mod's duty is to protect all sides, and in this case the one who she threatened also needed to be protected.

Most of us here have been through some kind of abuse, and I'm sorry, but that is not an excuse for abusive behaviour or threats.

my parents beat me as well, for example, yet that doesn't give me right to solicit sympathy or use that to evade responsibility for my behaviour.



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03 May 2015, 11:34 am

Thant you Booyakasha for saying you were sorry. This incident just makes me so terribly sad. I guess I've come to look at Wrong Planet as a place where doing the wrong thing doesn't immediately get me hurt, it's very sad to see what at least seems to be the OP getting hurt. I will get over it, but appreciate you trying. I am just very sad right now.



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03 May 2015, 12:07 pm

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Thant you Booyakasha for saying you were sorry. This incident just makes me so terribly sad. I guess I've come to look at Wrong Planet as a place where doing the wrong thing doesn't immediately get me hurt, it's very sad to see what at least seems to be the OP getting hurt. I will get over it, but appreciate you trying. I am just very sad right now.


I'm really sorry you feel sad, well these kind of things sometimes happen because of misunderstanding. But hey, there are a lot of nice people here having fun as well and becoming friends :) I've met some of the best people ever here!

I really hope you and OP feel better soon.



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09 May 2015, 1:39 am

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Alex, that might in part have been due to the proximity of the 'Report' button to the 'Quote' button for the post below(at least on smaller screens in Firefox/Ubuntu).

Moving it apart slightly further might signifigantly decrease the number of mis-clicks.


that can't be the only reason as simply clicking the report button once doesn't automatically send one. you have to select a reason and submit as well. even then we get reports along the lines of "i didn't mean to file a report, please ignore".


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09 May 2015, 6:24 am

She seems to be gone now.

All I saw in this and the BAP thread was someone misunderstanding and getting dramatic rather than going along with the norms here.

I read both threads carefully and that's what I saw, though granted I miss when a strong reaction is needed to prevent bullying, but the thing to me is, I don't want to be part of bullying, I don't like being publicly humiliated for my mistakes, I wish this had not happened.



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09 May 2015, 11:30 am

Waterfalls wrote:
...I don't like being publicly humiliated for my mistakes, I wish this had not happened.

Well, the wonderful thing about an internet forum, is that you are 100% anonymous. So anyone who is publicly humiliated/ostracized can immediately "re-invent" himself/herself simply by re-emerging with a new identity.



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09 May 2015, 12:20 pm

Since Tagnacious has not posted in this thread (nor anywhere else on this website) for over a week, maybe it isn't a bad idea to lock this thread and move on ... ?



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09 May 2015, 12:23 pm

agreed!