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04 Oct 2015, 5:43 am

CloudFlare uses several variables in deciding whether to show a CAPTCHA, but 2 of those are the content of your post and your IP address (or IP block). That would explain why some people seemingly never get it and others get it all the time. (The site owner would have very likely added an exception for his own IP address, so he would never see the CAPTCHA at all.)

As for the Cancel button, CloudFlare doesn't actually know the meaning of any button you click. All it sees is that you "submitted" some text and thinks "hey, this might be spam". It has no idea that the server would just discard that text if it was allowed to go through. To work around that you could clear the textbox yourself or just use navigation links instead of the Cancel button.

I realise that this doesn't help much, just thought I'd explain a little how it work (based on my understanding).

... and, yep, got prompted with a CAPTCHA to post this, which I haven't seen in ages. So either CloudFlare changed something or the site owner did.


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05 Oct 2015, 3:00 am

FMX wrote:
CloudFlare uses several variables in deciding whether to show a CAPTCHA, but 2 of those are the content of your post and your IP address (or IP block). That would explain why some people seemingly never get it and others get it all the time. (The site owner would have very likely added an exception for his own IP address, so he would never see the CAPTCHA at all.)

As for the Cancel button, CloudFlare doesn't actually know the meaning of any button you click. All it sees is that you "submitted" some text and thinks "hey, this might be spam". It has no idea that the server would just discard that text if it was allowed to go through. To work around that you could clear the textbox yourself or just use navigation links instead of the Cancel button.

I realise that this doesn't help much, just thought I'd explain a little how it work (based on my understanding).

... and, yep, got prompted with a CAPTCHA to post this, which I haven't seen in ages. So either CloudFlare changed something or the site owner did.



Hm, at least that makes it easier to understand WHY the godforsaken thing is being an ass.

Though, while it's pretty bad, it wouldnt be AS bad if it wasnt also a fountain of glitches. Seriously, EVERY site I've ever seen this on tends to get pretty darn funky whenever the horrid thing fires up. Deleting posts that you just wrote is only the latest in a long line of bloody stupid that I've seen from this blasted thing.



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05 Oct 2015, 3:17 am

I'm having a real problem with editing posts. It's edit, then copy the message, click submit, (only on my phone - refresh to resubmit), complete the captcha twice, it deletes the post, paste the post, do the captcha again, and then it submits.



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05 Oct 2015, 5:54 pm

I'm sometimes a slow writer . . .

Is that part of the reason why?



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05 Oct 2015, 11:18 pm

.....also, for such a "secure" program, it's NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE DAMN ADBOTS.

Just... what.... It just very randomly stops people from posting based on what I assume is an algorithm generated by taking a blindfolded and *extremely* drunken monkey and having it bash it's face into the keyboard until math happened, and applying said algorithm completely backwards and upside down.... yet it wont even TOUCH the obvious gibberish spewed by bots.

Like I said.... nuclear jackhammers. Someone keeps giving them to it, and down it goes, deeper and deeper...



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06 Oct 2015, 6:38 am

Maybe you should require having to do 1 captcha for registration... I bet that would actually help against bots.



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06 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm

Not if captchas are actually harder to solve for humans than they are for bots.


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07 Oct 2015, 8:49 am

I've just tried to reply to a thread and I can't because I keep getting the captcha and once it's done, I lose everything I write.

P.S. Good, at least my post went through this time.



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07 Oct 2015, 9:12 am

I've gotten it several times today. Copy your text before hitting submit, Jono, and paste it once it takes you back. It usually goes through after 1-4 attempts.


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07 Oct 2015, 9:23 am

Skilpadde wrote:
I've gotten it several times today. Copy your text before hitting submit, Jono, and paste it once it takes you back. It usually goes through after 1-4 attempts.


Well I figured out that it was the Youtube video in the post that I was quoting that kept tripping up the captcha, so I took that out and I could finally make my post. I don't know why that is.



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07 Oct 2015, 9:38 am

^ I don't get it either, but videos, links, quotes, longer messages (what long means varies apparently), images, are all things that can trigger it, as well as taking "too long" (which is great for those of us who aren't speedsters). :roll:
This is as bad it was a couple of years ago.


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07 Oct 2015, 11:44 am

What exactly is CloudFare? A user, a robot, a virus? All of them?


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07 Oct 2015, 4:26 pm

Skilpadde wrote:
I've gotten it several times today. Copy your text before hitting submit, Jono, and paste it once it takes you back. It usually goes through after 1-4 attempts.
I've tried three, four, five times re-pasting each time and it just doesn't work. And sometimes I just give up.

It seems like a quote, or a cut-and-paste from somewhere else on the Internet.

Or, when I do a longer post. Or , when I take my time and want to do a good post.



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07 Oct 2015, 4:56 pm

Lol, in the course of making a modestly sized post just now, the CAPTCHA came into operation four times. Firstly when I tried to send the finished post (which was destroyed), secondly when I made a draft copy of the redone version, thirdly when I (successfully) sent the post, then finally when I edited it.



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07 Oct 2015, 5:39 pm

It was awful today, I lost count how many times I tried to post, did the capcha, got an empty screen, pasted, got the capcha, did it, got another, pasted again, got another over and over and before the message was finally posted.



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07 Oct 2015, 9:37 pm

Cockroach96 wrote:
What exactly is CloudFare? A user, a robot, a virus? All of them?


The end result of a monkey faceplanting into a keyboard over and over for 24 straight hours.

And I see that the bots are back, out of control again.... sigh. Good ol' Cloudflare sure is doing it's job! Ugh.

What the hell is the point of a "captcha" if it has NO EFFECT ON BOTS AT ALL? I mean, just.... what. I dont even want to know at this point.